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On September 28 2013 03:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 03:20 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 28 2013 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:On September 28 2013 03:08 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 28 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:On September 28 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next. You're scum aren't you. That wasn't even my strategy that was your strategy. terrible reasoning. "People know about bussing the vanilla scum for the most part so I'd say Grack is our bus of choice" - Vayne. You were the first one in the QT to mention the idea of bussing. ? I'm talking about your early vote on BH ( OP ) you put an early vote on him and your confirmation bias clouds your judgement. I don't recall ever actually bussing you in that game besides throwing dirt on you. Never actually voted for you until later SO I put an early vote on OP. That didn't work out well in my favor so why would I do the same thing again. Me being right on scum makes me less likely to be town? Are you kidding me? honestly horrible, awful, unbelievably bad reasoning. You are probably trying to play dumb like you did last game. Yup That is legitimately what he does. Golden Sun scum QT. vayne 09-25-2013 03:06 PM ET (US) i hate playing scum, you have to like pretend you're a retard and say stupid shit
Yes and no. Vayne hasn't been playing full-on retard mode and doesn't necessarily have to as scum; it really depends on the game and the situation. it's just the Vayne has absolutely no problem pushing things and being completely and utterly wrong and looking dumb when necessary.
He does not hate playing scum in the slightest, and believes he is incredibly skilled at it.
From the polls thread asking how you rate your skills:
On September 27 2013 06:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
put 3 for town and 9 for mafia
The only time he cares enough to put forth real effort is when playing scum. One of my biggest tells on Vayne from very early in our play together that even he has brought up on occasion is Vayne looks towny when scum and scummy when town. I can't think of all that many exceptions to that rule.
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On September 28 2013 03:23 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, the point I'm trying to make here (if people would just accept that Koshi was RNGed) is that we're done talking about some "abstract RNG lynch". We're talking about lynching Koshi. People want to use RNG to opt out of the town discourse, but that is no longer possible because we've actually RNGed someone, you see?
Again, as one of the primary proponents of RNG today, when did I ever attempt to opt out of town discourse?
Did anyone actually do this? If so, where?
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Blazinghand
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Ok there seems to be some confusion here so I'm going to spell it out plain an dclear
I am not in favor of the RNG lynch on koshi. I think we should lynch FT.
I did, however, roll the dice for the RNG in a fair and clear way. The post number Mod 19 method is foolproof and random. Koshi was randomly selected.
I did this so that people would have to take stances wrt RNG. Now it's not "an RNG lynch" we're talking about, it's "the koshi rng lynch" so people actually gotta man up and take stances. This generates information. People have to have reasons. As someone who has a mild suspicion scum might try to hide behind the _concept_ of an RNG lynch, by making it real I know i can flush it out.
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Blazinghand
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On September 28 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 03:23 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, the point I'm trying to make here (if people would just accept that Koshi was RNGed) is that we're done talking about some "abstract RNG lynch". We're talking about lynching Koshi. People want to use RNG to opt out of the town discourse, but that is no longer possible because we've actually RNGed someone, you see? Again, as one of the primary proponents of RNG today, when did I ever attempt to opt out of town discourse? Did anyone actually do this? If so, where?
As the other primary proponent, I never attempted to opt out either. but the fact that the concept exists WITHOUT HAVING RNGED SOMEONE is bad. In fact, multiple people (not sure if you) said "yeah, I like RNG lynch but looks like we can't RNG anyone so I guess my support for it is meaningless"
WELL YOU GUYS JUST GOT PUNKED.
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Blazinghand
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jeez, suggest an RNG lynch, and nobody cares, actually roll the dice for one and everyone loses his head
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##vote: Koshi
I'm keeping my word here. BH's solution to the RNG problem is quite inventive. I will double check if it was truly random, but if it was I'm sticking with Koshi.
30% are pretty good odds.
BH, why aren't you voting Koshi?
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Blazinghand
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On September 28 2013 03:29 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 28 2013 03:23 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case, the point I'm trying to make here (if people would just accept that Koshi was RNGed) is that we're done talking about some "abstract RNG lynch". We're talking about lynching Koshi. People want to use RNG to opt out of the town discourse, but that is no longer possible because we've actually RNGed someone, you see? Again, as one of the primary proponents of RNG today, when did I ever attempt to opt out of town discourse? Did anyone actually do this? If so, where? As the other primary proponent, I never attempted to opt out either. but the fact that the concept exists WITHOUT HAVING RNGED SOMEONE is bad. In fact, multiple people (not sure if you) said "yeah, I like RNG lynch but looks like we can't RNG anyone so I guess my support for it is meaningless" WELL YOU GUYS JUST GOT PUNKED.
Who did you punk? I appreciate the action and I sort of agree with what you were trying to do in theory bu i don't think you caught anyone out honestly.
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It has been a while since more than 2 people voted for me. I feel dirty.
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Anyone who supports RNG, myself included, should still scumhunt and make full use of the day. There is still much to say and much to find. Anyone who stops scumhunting should be subject to lynch as well.
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I see Koshi was chosen as the candidate. Would vote totes. All hail the RNG
Based on feel Yamato is my first choice of scum.
Work for next 8 hrs bleh
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On September 28 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where is Rayn?
Absent and defending me. Everytime that's happened, he's been scum.
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On September 28 2013 03:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
And where is Rayn?
About your case on rayn. I don't like it.
rayn talked about over 10 people already and made clear where is stances are. Sadly in this game scum can hunt but I am keeping him around.
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On September 28 2013 01:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
WoS is looking townier by the minute folks.
I know I keep giving you townreads when you're useless but I don't know if I can give you one this game since you're also playing in Noire. That post gives me the jibblies especially when half the town disagrees with you atm and the other half is afk.
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On September 28 2013 03:39 Koshi wrote:About your case on rayn. I don't like it. rayn talked about over 10 people already and made clear where is stances are. Sadly in this game scum can hunt but I am keeping him around.
What does the amount of people Rayn talked about have to do with anything? Rayn is perfectly capable of tunneling someone as a scumread but still looking elsewhere, as either alignment.
I didn't really expect anyone to like my case on him I suppose, it was mroe getting my thoughts out. And when I wrote my thoughts out I realized there was something that may make my whole post fundamentally wrong so I'm probably going to end up dropping it. Overall I'd like to talk to Rayn himself.
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Blazinghand is town. He's actively pushing the thread forward and his read on on me seems genuine. Forcing people to take sides on the RNG debate was a brilliant idea. Helps us out a great deal by holding people accountable for their empty stances. He's completely wrong about me, but his sincerity is clearly apparent.
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Does anyone see anything wrong with FT's last post?
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Oops, got cut, second last. Thi
On September 28 2013 03:38 FirmTofu wrote:Absent and defending me. Everytime that's happened, he's been scum.
s one:
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