Thug Life Mini Mafia - Page 24

On October 06 2013 06:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
now please address how you still think pandain tunneling me and protecting FT makes him town when I have proven the exact opposite to be true. still waiting on that

On October 06 2013 06:46 s0Lstice wrote:


not really. satisfying some paranoia that Wave made well up in me with his comment on Koshi

On October 06 2013 07:04 austinmcc wrote:
Your question doesn't need answering. You want to know why x and y make Pandain town.

Your post presumes that my townread is based on that.

I don't care about that at all.

He's town for the reasons in my filter. You KNOW if read my filter that I think he's town, and I think he's town for different reasons.

No. It doesn't answer you question. Because your question is "Why do you think x makes pandain town?" When it turns out I don't care about x at all, and you'd know that if you read my filter.

On October 06 2013 07:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
and that you don't care about it is precisely why you are scum, intentionally avoiding incriminating evidence to protect your ally.this isn't rocket science

On October 06 2013 07:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
The most productive action today would be to try to lynch the remaining banger so we reduce KP. I still think that VA is that person, and I will most likely be pushing to lynch him today.

Out of the surviving players, we still have:
Koshi
VisceraEyes
Mr. Cheesecake
Oatsmaster
raynpelikoneet
Chairman Ray
WaveofShadow
VayneAuthority
austinmcc
Pandain
s0lstice

With Koshi, rayn, VE, and Oats confirmed town, that leaves myself, CC, WoS, austin, Pandain, and solstice to be in the other mafia. I know I'm town, and I think that WoS and austin are town, so that leaves CC, Pandain and solstice.

Anyways, I think that solstice strikes to be the most scum to me out of the bunch. His filter is mostly him questioning other people for reads and just saying certain people are a bit scummy or suspicious. He hasn't done any in depth reads or pushed strongly on anyone. This is something I find particularly scummy just because it makes you look town without helping town a whole lot. He was onto me at some point, but defended me at the end. I appreciate it, but I still can't take it as a bribe, because it's still fits within mafia agenda.

I think that the best strategy for the second scum team to do right now is get a lot of town influence so they can have a mislynch the next day. Today we're obviously just lynching the last banger. Tomorrow we'll be looking for the second scumteam. With thee votepower on their side, it's really easy to get a mislynch. Solstice seems to be slowly pushing onto CC and austin, and I want to bring this up now before it happens in case one or both are town. If CC is town, then maybe I'm wrong on my WoS or austin read and one of them is actually mafia. It definitely makes sense for mafia to defend me and push for stronger targets, because tbh I don't think I'm a threat to mafia, but both CC and austin are, and a mislynch on them could be gamechanging. I think I'm going to be dissolving my trust on anyone except for the confirmed townies because the dominant strategy right now for mafia is to just gain influence. If a single townie is influences, then we might lose this. I don't wanna be that towny that votes wrong.

So my recommendation is to lynch VA today, and then solstice tomorrow.

##Vote: VayneAuthority

On October 06 2013 07:48 VayneAuthority wrote:


yes I do. once CR spoke up about me only then is when pandain started hard pushing me, so it was either pre meditated or scum team is abusing a newbie which is pretty despicable.

From yesterday I was going to have

CR vote, pandain vote, VE vote, potentially your vote it looks like? and WoS could easily just say "YES POLICY LYNCH TIME"

that's already 5 votes.

On October 06 2013 08:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thanks for the confirm Koshi

##vote CC

VE is also being a bit odd.
Why does CR need to bus, VE?

On October 06 2013 08:38 austinmcc wrote:
Thing is, after this whole bit today I honestly believe VA is super mafia.

Which means CR in the last banger slot, not WoS, and probably WoS town/solstice mafia.

On October 06 2013 07:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
The most productive action today would be to try to lynch the remaining banger so we reduce KP. I still think that VA is that person, and I will most likely be pushing to lynch him today.

Out of the surviving players, we still have:
Koshi
VisceraEyes
Mr. Cheesecake
Oatsmaster
raynpelikoneet
Chairman Ray
WaveofShadow
VayneAuthority
austinmcc
Pandain
s0lstice

With Koshi, rayn, VE, and Oats confirmed town, that leaves myself, CC, WoS, austin, Pandain, and solstice to be in the other mafia. I know I'm town, and I think that WoS and austin are town, so that leaves CC, Pandain and solstice.

Anyways, I think that solstice strikes to be the most scum to me out of the bunch. His filter is mostly him questioning other people for reads and just saying certain people are a bit scummy or suspicious. He hasn't done any in depth reads or pushed strongly on anyone. This is something I find particularly scummy just because it makes you look town without helping town a whole lot. He was onto me at some point, but defended me at the end. I appreciate it, but I still can't take it as a bribe, because it's still fits within mafia agenda.

I think that the best strategy for the second scum team to do right now is get a lot of town influence so they can have a mislynch the next day. Today we're obviously just lynching the last banger. Tomorrow we'll be looking for the second scumteam. With thee votepower on their side, it's really easy to get a mislynch. Solstice seems to be slowly pushing onto CC and austin, and I want to bring this up now before it happens in case one or both are town. If CC is town, then maybe I'm wrong on my WoS or austin read and one of them is actually mafia. It definitely makes sense for mafia to defend me and push for stronger targets, because tbh I don't think I'm a threat to mafia, but both CC and austin are, and a mislynch on them could be gamechanging. I think I'm going to be dissolving my trust on anyone except for the confirmed townies because the dominant strategy right now for mafia is to just gain influence. If a single townie is influences, then we might lose this. I don't wanna be that towny that votes wrong.

So my recommendation is to lynch VA today, and then solstice tomorrow.

##Vote: VayneAuthority

On October 06 2013 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I agree with Austin's take - being less inclined to include you Wave as scum, myself. But I'm not sure.

Austin, what makes CC scum to you?

On October 06 2013 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:

If Palmar was saved - as in, if FT came back and voted and we all switched back onto FT, then there's absolutely no harm in saying that he wanted to save Palmar. I said it myself Wave, he could just be like "Yeah well VE said it too why are you suspicious of me for it?"

Obviously they couldn't have known one way or the other and I agree that it seems unlikely...but not impossible and certainly not above consideration.

On October 06 2013 09:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
You asked if I agreed/disagreed with you that he's scum - I said I agreed with his scumreads with clarification.

Pretty sure I answered your question. Unless there was more?

On October 06 2013 09:42 austinmcc wrote:
In between ROLLING with top udyr.

Limited options + EXPLICITLY that one post I keep quoting.

Scum need mislynches. I thought oats was town. I know a lot of people didn't. But now you KNOW oats is town. Go back to yesterday and read it. You can SEE him being set up as a mislynch. You can smell it, taste it, feel it, see it.

Cheesecake's post was the most offensive of ANY anti-oats post, because it was just pure I WANT TO LYNCH THIS GUY.

If that makes sense, he's not concerned with going through oats's filter and calling oats scum based on x and y but not z, no critical thought, no nothing. It's just going into oats's filter and VOMITING half his posts into a giant list.

He just grabs "Oats mentions Palmar." Doesn't consider whether that makes Oats town or scum or Palmarbud or anything, he just WANTS Oats to look scummy.

If you look at yesterday, and at the people attacking oats, SOME OF THEM ARE TOWN. But SOME OF THEM ARE MAFIA. Out of every post on oats that I remember, that was the single scummiest post out there.

And again, generic crap like "someone has to be" + "nothing giving me a beefy townread on him"

On October 06 2013 09:49 austinmcc wrote:
So, here's a thing. s0lstice thinks I'm slimy/used car salesman-y. You think I'm not answering your scumread.

Here's the thing. I haven't had a solid town game in a bit. My townreads on SP/FT/oats ALL being mislynches were correct. I wanted to lynch Palmar yesterday, he was mafia. If s0lstice if mafia (dunno for sure yet), I've been right on all my votes and on identifying mislynch wagons.

How would you feel if a large chunk of your reads, and especially some of your reads on mislynches, had been correct? And you were alive? And you hadn't had a nice solid towngame in a while? AND you felt like the game was nearly solved?

You would feel good. You wouldn't care if someone calls you scum because: (1) you know you're not; (2) you think your scumlist is solid at this point; (3) you don't think you're going to get lynched even if a couple people think you're scum (especially because some of the people pushing you must be scum by elimination, and you think those people will die before you do, making the suspicion on you at least partly scum-pushed); (4) even if you GET mislynched, you played a really good game and your mislynch sort of seals the deal for town, because you have been working from good reads all game, so maybe your lategame reads are good.

As an example of (4), I was looking for people trying to mislynch oats yesterday, because I thought he was town. If you thought he was scum, you may not have been seeing some things in the same light. So because I've been working from a good base (so far), I trust my current reads to be good to sexy, and if I get lynched, there are good to sexy reads for town to follow and trust. So...whether I live or get mislynched, it doesn't matter a BOATLOAD to me. I think town has this game, I think whether I'm alive or dead town has this game, and I think I had a couple days in this game that I can be proud of. I'm just not worried with a scumread on me.

If you found yourself in THAT scenario, the very specific scenario. Would you care if someone was trying to intimate that you were scum? Or could be scum? It's making me a bit obnoxious, because it's gone from having fun and trying to promote good atmosphere with earlier silly posts to now kind of being a little dickish about it, but still in my head promoting a good town atmosphere because I'm town and some of the people I'm being dickish too (VA) are likely mafia.

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Yurp. Because it's a townie thing to want to know! However, it doesn't make me town at all. It's entirely null, cuz either side should be asking that.

On October 06 2013 10:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WTF DID I DIE?

On October 06 2013 10:22 Pandain wrote:
##Vote WoS



I like what Austin/VE said and they convinced me WoS is substantially related to palmar in fact ignored him.


Also Koshi no. I several times advocated FT over Palmar just because the host made a mistake doesn't mean I'm scum

On October 06 2013 10:26 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Eh austin, if i were scum I'd make sure the post looked good. oats was scummy and the association made sense. get over it bro.

Btw S0lstice claimed scum to me. He masoned me by payphone, and said that he was on the 'other' scum team and could help me win the game. He didnt specify which but im guessing hes the one scummer left and hoped i was on the trio.

jokes on him. I'm town.

For the town.

##vote: S0lstice

pays to look scummy but win with town sometimes hahaha.

posting more when i get home. he will try to wiggle he way out of this i bet.

you fucked up son, cant call me for help bitch. games over for scum.