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Ugh I hope the team isn't Pandain/Solstice/Austin honestly.
Alright I suppose I need to find out if my townread on solstice makes any sense at all.
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On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp. I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list? As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?) That's been proven wrong. SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it. Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar?
Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him.
On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum. and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though. Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie. And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not. You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it.
So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip?
Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically?
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On October 06 2013 01:27 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp. I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list? As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?) That's been proven wrong. SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it. Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar? Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him. On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum. and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though. Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie. And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not. You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it. So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip? Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically? It 6000% DOES matter. "My scumbuddy is scum" and "My scumbuddy is scum and we should LYNCH HIM WHY AREN'T YOU LYNCHING HIM DON'T LYNCH OTHER GUY LYNCH MY SCUMBUDDY" are two different things. And WoS knows this. Your D3 isn't applicable there. VA says pandain loves to save townies as scum. Actually, what I wrote doesn't apply to pandain as much so I'm going to drop that. But that bit doesn't apply to you. You didn't try and save a townie and vote mafia. You tried to lynch a townie, then maybe save a townie and lynch someone else but not palmar. We don't know yet what your alternate choice will flipz.
You really like to conveniently ignore the obvious, which is that it is fucking retarded scumplay to tunnel a towny 2 days that I KNOW will flip.
And no, I'm not so convinced that it is different at all. People push lynches in different ways.
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On October 06 2013 01:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:27 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp. I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list? As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?) That's been proven wrong. SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it. Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar? Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him. On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum. and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though. Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie. And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not. You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it. So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip? Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically? It 6000% DOES matter. "My scumbuddy is scum" and "My scumbuddy is scum and we should LYNCH HIM WHY AREN'T YOU LYNCHING HIM DON'T LYNCH OTHER GUY LYNCH MY SCUMBUDDY" are two different things. And WoS knows this. Your D3 isn't applicable there. VA says pandain loves to save townies as scum. Actually, what I wrote doesn't apply to pandain as much so I'm going to drop that. But that bit doesn't apply to you. You didn't try and save a townie and vote mafia. You tried to lynch a townie, then maybe save a townie and lynch someone else but not palmar. We don't know yet what your alternate choice will flipz. You really like to conveniently ignore the obvious, which is that it is fucking retarded scumplay to tunnel a towny 2 days that I KNOW will flip.And no, I'm not so convinced that it is different at all. People push lynches in different ways.
You know?
I'm starting to believe that you're scum precisely for this reason. You're better than that.
It would stand that this is exactly why you've held middling suspicion on me all game: you were setting me up for the mislynch way in advance when FT DID flip. The Palmar flip if you're on the other scumteam would have been the icing on the cake because you could try and associate.
The fact that you are absolutely convinced that I am scum and seem to conveniently ignore all evidence as to the contrary lately is extremely concerning.
VE I want to hear your thoughts on this whenever you get back.
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On October 06 2013 01:37 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp. I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list? As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?) That's been proven wrong. SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it. Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar? Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him. On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum. and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though. Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie. And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not. You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it. So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip? Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically? I actually don't think he's scum as of now, Im just throwing out scumteams that make sense to me in my head, you can ignore it if you want. It would show why pandain is being defended by austin, austin is specifically zoned in on s0lstice as a lurker when there are plenty of others, and why s0lstice really hasn't an impact on the game. It makes sense to me in my head but I don't think its necessarily correct. I don't like austin's post about one team knowing that palmar is scum, that doesn't sit well with me and is shoddy reasoning. You can't KNOW anyone is scum until they flip. bad austin, bad. And yet we've got a couple folks saying they KNOW x or y is town. I think that if you look from the outside, if you're a scumteam and you see Palmar not doing anything D2 and D3, and not attacking anyone on your team, possibly just always saying he hasn't read them or blah blah, you can....INTUIT STRONGLY or whatever other phrase you'd prefer (yes, know is a slight exaggeration) that Palmar is on the other scum team. You both know that he's not trying AND when he posts lists your team is off em. Given that info, you SHOULD be assuming he's other scumteam. Heck, you should be assuming he's scum and you know he's not on your team, the fact that he might be avoiding attacking your team is cherry.
The only people we KNOW are Koshi/Rayn/VE and that's because we had no counterclaim. So technically no, we don't KNOW, but it's pretty fucking close, and it's well within the power of someone in this game to correct us if we are wrong.
You also can't predict how other people will interpret certain levels of play at all, so this is kind of a stupid argument. If you could predict that then wouldn't scumhunting be a shit ton less difficult in general?
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lol Austin if you're scum and town wins, I'll give you town MVP, k?
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On October 06 2013 01:42 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:37 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 01:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:18 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. Yeah I wouldn't be so quick to narp. I KNOW one of those 5 is town, and I strongly suspect two more of them are. If Vayne is also town where does that put the final scum members if only Oats is scum on that list? As far as pushing goes, hey remember when we said the scumtams probably wouldn't be bussing this game? (Or at least I thought so?) That's been proven wrong. SnB posted that Palmar was scum. SnB asked people to vote him. Yeah, it's some bussing, but he never actually got Palmar lynched, and he didn't super push it. Can you look me in the belly button and tell me that you think SnB's read and push on Palmar are equivalent to my read and push on Palmar? Doesn't matter, a bus is a bus. SnB's push was pretty decent for what it was. It had me fooled into an early townread on him. On October 06 2013 01:17 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:12 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 01:09 austinmcc wrote:On October 06 2013 01:01 VayneAuthority wrote:On October 06 2013 00:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Final thought; S0lstice talking about mafia teams getting in contact with each other. Suspect as fuck. pandain did the same thing with palmar. How unlikely do you guys think a pandain/austin/s0lstice team is? Only reason im iffy is because that involves 2 replacements, which kinda messes with you. I hate replacements. My view on that scumteam is understandably biased but: You're suggesting a scumteam of which 2 members pushed hard AGAINST a FT lynch yesterday. You're suggesting a scumteam of which 1 member attempted to push the lynch specifically onto scum You're suggesting that all but 1 of you/wos/oats/CR/cheesecake is town Narp. you're suggesting that any of those things matter. Palmar was on the other scumteam how is that relevant? Defending a modkill makes you look bad, not good. I just made a giant post on how pandain loves to "save townies" as scum. and yes I think everyone is town there except WoS/oats so I suppose I have one wrong. dunno if it's you or s0lstice though. Palmar being on the other scumteam still relevant. Scum needs EVERYONE dead. But they'd really really like to keep the other scumteam alive, that's a bonus 1 KP. Game is balanced around 2 scumteams, and the moment 1 is gone, the other scumteam has a difficult time. (Hopefully!). I don't, and this is a thought I should back up by looking at yesterday and seeing who else was kinda iffy on Palmar, think that Scumteam Not Palmar/SnB really wants to lynch Palmar over a townie. And in my head, Scumteam B KNOWS Palmar is scum, because he's not hunting them at all and he's doing nothing. They could tell all game whether he was actually pressuring any of them or not. You may have posted all about how pandain loves to save townies as scum. I don't. If I'm scum, I generally like me some dead townies. And it's not about "saving a townie." It's about "saving a townie AND lynching scum." There's a huge difference between being able to save Townie A and lynch Townie B vs saving a townie AND lynching scum. One gets you a little cred with someone, makes you look nice when Townie A flips. The other is ACTIVELY putting yourself in a less-favorable position numerically on hopes that the cred makes up for it. So what about me ACTIVELY putting myself in a horrible position if I knew how FT was going to flip? Also I really want to discuss my townread on solstice but I can't do so nicely without revealing why I think so, and if I do I won't be able to use that towntell anymore. VA why do you think solstice is scum specifically? I actually don't think he's scum as of now, Im just throwing out scumteams that make sense to me in my head, you can ignore it if you want. It would show why pandain is being defended by austin, austin is specifically zoned in on s0lstice as a lurker when there are plenty of others, and why s0lstice really hasn't an impact on the game. It makes sense to me in my head but I don't think its necessarily correct. I don't like austin's post about one team knowing that palmar is scum, that doesn't sit well with me and is shoddy reasoning. You can't KNOW anyone is scum until they flip. bad austin, bad. And yet we've got a couple folks saying they KNOW x or y is town. I think that if you look from the outside, if you're a scumteam and you see Palmar not doing anything D2 and D3, and not attacking anyone on your team, possibly just always saying he hasn't read them or blah blah, you can....INTUIT STRONGLY or whatever other phrase you'd prefer (yes, know is a slight exaggeration) that Palmar is on the other scum team. You both know that he's not trying AND when he posts lists your team is off em. Given that info, you SHOULD be assuming he's other scumteam. Heck, you should be assuming he's scum and you know he's not on your team, the fact that he might be avoiding attacking your team is cherry. The only people we KNOW are Koshi/Rayn/VE and that's because we had no counterclaim. So technically no, we don't KNOW, but it's pretty fucking close, and it's well within the power of someone in this game to correct us if we are wrong. You also can't predict how other people will interpret certain levels of play at all, so this is kind of a stupid argument. If you could predict that then wouldn't scumhunting be a shit ton less difficult in general? We can argue about thist postgame if you're town. But I don't think it's a stupid argument and I DO think that each scumteam would be trying to figure out who the other team was, and that Palmar should have been on the non-Palmar team's list right up at the tippy top.
I agree that scum would be attempting to figure out who is on the other team, but to assume that everyone was thinking how you think is a little bit ridiculous.
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On October 06 2013 01:43 Oatsmaster wrote:Where the fuck did CC go? I really want him to explain how quoting a bunch of stuff about Palmar = I am Palmar's scumbuddy. Mainly because in all the Scumgames I play, I probably associate with my teammembers THE LEAST out of the whole thread. Not that MOST. Interestingly enough, CC didnt pick up that my read kept flip-flopping and thats why I thought he would call me scummy for that whole quote spam nonsense. But he didnt. I think its safe to say that CC is scum at this point, he has played with me in TONS of games and trying to lynch me by some vague associations? Time to give that shit up. Wave is town  HI TOWNBUDDY!
Little late to start puttin' in that effort buddy after you've been caught.
Appreciate the townread though!
On October 06 2013 01:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so something about CR.
Palmar kept calling him the towniest town ever(Slight exaggeration).
What can you conclude from that Austin?
Can I answer this one though Oats? Please? Pretty please?
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Damn he answered before I could.
On October 06 2013 01:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Sure Wave.
Also MIND=BLOWN when you see my flip.
Promise you.
Are you gonna flip 3P?
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On October 06 2013 01:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah Austin, why do you think Wave is scum now? Thats bad.
Now wait hold on.
VE thinkis I'm scum too, as well as VA.
Why is only Austin bad because of it?
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On October 06 2013 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 01:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Yeah Austin, why do you think Wave is scum now? Thats bad. Now wait hold on. VE thinkis I'm scum too, as well as VA. Why is only Austin bad because of it? Its all bad, I just didnt know VE and VA thought you were scum. NO DOUBLE STANDARDS IN MY TOWN SCRUB
You didn't know, so you chose to jump on the most obvious target at the current time.
Maybe you should go and have a look at the varying reasons for people thinking I'm scum.
*hint hint*
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Look who doesn't want to address the fact that I called him scummmmmmm
And yeah nothing that you just said about CR can't be explained by the fact that he is simply still newbie town.
I don't see any difference at all between this game and Noire aside from less activity here.
Again I will admit that he may have to be looked at AT SOME POINT---in fact I kind of like VA's way of going about it. If he's here and posting we'll be able to determine what he's about one way or another.
Oh shit Austin I'm soft defending someone you think is scum! QUICK ASSOCIATIONS GOGO!
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On October 06 2013 02:45 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 02:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Look who doesn't want to address the fact that I called him scummmmmmm
And yeah nothing that you just said about CR can't be explained by the fact that he is simply still newbie town.
I don't see any difference at all between this game and Noire aside from less activity here.
Again I will admit that he may have to be looked at AT SOME POINT---in fact I kind of like VA's way of going about it. If he's here and posting we'll be able to determine what he's about one way or another.
Oh shit Austin I'm soft defending someone you think is scum! QUICK ASSOCIATIONS GOGO! Nope. One of you is the likely third broseph. I don't believe that the two of you are associated.
Ok so CR is third member despite the fact that he blatantly told everyone in thread he was defending Palmar?
Really?
If it has to be one of us, then it would have to be me.
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On October 06 2013 02:46 austinmcc wrote:
I will note that if you assume Chairman is not a position, but an actual MAN made of CHAIRS, then Chair Man Ray has 3 words and Wave of Shadow has 3 words, indicating you both might be connected in a game with 3 scum members per team.
I guess he could also not be MADE of chairs, but some sort of chair-weapon-using Mega Man robot.
Nope.
Now that I believe you might be scum I defy your trolly attempts at humour, just as I did early game.
Scumtell all you want with that.
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You have been making way too many behavioural assumptions and associations this game.
You really don't find 'I WANT TO SAVE PALMAR' a glaring fucking statement of him not being on the same team as Palmar?
If you honestly think that a newbie is going to play a game with experienced scumteam members and not only NOT be fucking paranoid as all hell about revealing anything related to his team, but also not check his posting and plan with his scumteam before doing it, I don't know what to say to you.
You're all worried about how 'constructed' all of CR's posting is. Do you think Palmar would have been ok with CR stating in thread I WANNA SAVE YOU?
So ridiculous that I even need to explain this.
I'm out for now. May or may not be around at deadline. If I die (doubtful as all hell):
Austin/Oats first.
Maybe Pandain/VA.
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What are the chances Koshi is somehow scum and fucking everyone over?
Is there ANYTHING that makes this possible? I'm thinking not; I just want to be 100% sure we can trust that we have all of these confirmed townies.
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Not atm. Going out very shortly and phoneppsoting atm
Read through the last bit of my filter. Its that and more, and especially with Oats being town somehow, its not like there are many more people to go on anyway.
Assuming I'm town, only people left are VA/CC/CR/pandain/austin/solstice.
I have townreads on 3 of those so now there's at least someone ELSE I'm wrong about. Not a good game for me.
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Alright I'm gonna team with VA and I suppose Austin on this for now.
##Vote: Chairman Ray
CR I had thought you were town for a while but you're not here, you're not helping and you're not posting. Gotta be wrong about somebody and I'm going to start with you.
Get here and get involved so I and other people can get a better read on you.
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Not everyone can even attempt to try and herd a town, never mind actually be successful at it.
I've only done so like...once or twice.
Maybe.
And even then not for very long.
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