EPT"I could hear you from the bedroom smashing your keyboard."
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On October 05 2013 09:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Mine was the whole wanting to policy lynch you then being so vehemently against it, to the point of spite, when Pandain was all about lynching you. Do you understand how furious it made me that Pandain essentially copied all of my reasoning for wanting to get rid of VA and took it for his own? I hate being ignored. I absolutely fucking hate it and I have been ignored so many times this game---the push on Pandain towards VA was the last fucking straw. He could have supported me or even used my examples at any fucking time. All of you need to stop looking for specific scum reasons as to my actions and look at the town ones. More stuff you're ignoring. | ||
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On October 05 2013 11:58 austinmcc wrote: (I still don't think oats is mafia. Also, he's totes not the third guy, at least not one what I went looking for so far) I was going to say that people would have more luck pinning CR as the third member, but that actually looks unlikely given his direct comments on Palmar. Like, in his case, he says Palmar might be good lynch candidate, but here is specifically why I don't want to lynch him, scenarios, what we learn. Oats is 100% mafia. Whether he's on their team or not. Stop looking towards association for all of your shit. People have picked up on it at multiple points in the thread. A town Oats is wayyy more aggressive (to the point of idiocy), drops reads all over the fucking place, and most importantly PUSHES. Oats this game has done none of this, and blended into the background so scummily I had forgotten he was even IN the game at one point (and I think someone else mentioned that too). Just dropping questions here and there that go nowhere most of the game. I've stated all of this before, check my filter. | ||
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I hate not getting credit when it is due. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:07 austinmcc wrote: You have, bunches of people have. My oats read isn't based on association, it's just a couple things he said. But to the extent we're actively trying to hunt "third dude" and not "mafia", we kind of need to use associations there. Unless you know of a better way to figure out what team a specific scummy dude is on. I'm not entirely sure. You haven't commented on my comments on your case though. Do you still believe I am that third member? | ||
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If you want to talk and shoot some shit, I'm around. I don't think I have ever tried to be anything but transparent to people this game so at the very least I'd really like to shake this scumread people seem to have on me, but mostly I want town to win a game for once so we can always hunt some scum too. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:16 austinmcc wrote: Ya  Your read fluctuated between town, maybe scum, can't read, etc. etc. You can't go "Well if I were scum I wouldn't say I couldn't read him I would give him weak reads" because you also did that. A lot of the other stuff, the Palmar post (which I didn't even notice the year on) and the jokey past game stuff doesn't really matter, it's not the meat of anything, just neat stuff I found. What matters it the specific way you interacted with the possibility of a Palmar lynch. More than anyone else, you appeared to want to call Palmar scummy while NOT wanting to lynch him. Not because of a zealous fury to get VA lynched (Pandain), or whatever reason he had but who cares cuz he's town (VE), but because you just wanted to lynch other people instead that you found scummier. It's ENTIRELY possible that this is all a coincidence and Palmar's scumbuddy wasn't around or whatever. But it don't look good. Actions. Actions speak louder than words. Pretty much in terms of a scale of loudness, you're looking at actions > words > the whispers of soul-eating bears. I dunno man if that's the best association you can come up with and I have to try and come up with something better to show that I'm not the third scum, I'm either fucked because you were really grabbing at absolutely everything that you felt fit and there isn't anything to find, or it'll be hella easy because I haven't looked yet and your case isn't predicated on anything aside from me not being able to read Palmar essentially. Because what it all comes down to is you think my inability to read Palmar makes me scum, no matter how you twist it. Fine Austin. You want action, I'll give you action. | ||
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Austin 3rd scumteam member, rides towncred all the way to the bank lol. Anyway I can continue my delving into Palmar's filter that I started earlier. I really don't like how both VE and Austin have now essentially stated 'all I have to do is find the scum member more likely than me,' because imo that's almost akin to solving the game, which I know I won't be able to do. You're essentially pre-absolving yourself of responsibility for when I flip green because 'I didn't do a good enough job of proving myself.' I don't appreciate that. Some other fun stuff to add that I found in Palmar's filter to the earlier thing: On September 30 2013 21:40 Palmar wrote: Pandain was on my scumteam but I fired him for aids and bads. (see personality mafia, I have a reason to think pandain is awful as scum). Palmar also constantly calls SnB bad and doesn't entertain anything he says essentially. Only other person he does this too is Vayne. On September 30 2013 23:41 Palmar wrote: SnB you're bad. Here's some fun: On October 01 2013 23:45 Palmar wrote: Who knows, maybe yamato can spot the difference between my town game and my scum game. Just because you're bad and can't, doesn't mean everyone else is. I don't think Oats is massively different as scum and town. I usually have a fairly difficult time figuring out his alignment. You seem to think otherwise. Does this make every read I give on Oats ever invalid? You're basically trying to play the fear card on me. It's super annoying when people call me scum, not because I'm doing anything scum would do or playing scummy in any way, but just because they're afraid I might be scum doing town things and looking like town. How the hell do you know yamato wasn't using exactly the same meta reasoning you're using on Oats, or I used on VE to figure out my alignment. I can't remember, BH also figured out my alignment, do you think his townread on me was bogus too? Clearly by your standards there's literally nothing I can do to make me appear town to you, and apparently you're fine with tunneling that point of view. LOOK PALMAR CAN'T READ OATS IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANT TO THAT MEANS OATS IS SCUM Honestly...I'm finding this effort completely fruitless atm. I could pick out basically anything from his filter and spin it the way I'd want to. I'm not going to be able to provide you with what you want the way you want it. If whatever I do over the next 50h or so isn't good enough for you guys then so be it. At least if you lynch me then maybe you guys will look more closely at my filter from the town perspective as you should have done from the start. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually Wave, you think Im the 3rd scum from Palmars team right? So you think Pandain and VA are hardbussing each other? Why? Well apparently scum have no qualms about bussing this game whatsoever if you look at SnB/Palmar. I'm internally waffling a lot on Pandain/VA and especially with the FT flip I'm going to have to go back and read them really closely to see if they still deserve those reads. I haven't made any connections about who is on what team honestly. I've tried, but can't. I don't think I'm going to bother with it because I'm bad at it. I already know you're scum; I don't know which team you 'fit into' better, but if town lynches you, you'll flip red. That's good enough for me for now. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:48 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol Wave, Palmar didnt say he didnt want to read me, he just found it difficult. Im sure there are many instances in his filter where he calls me town. And I didn't say I didn't want to read Palmar. I said I couldn't. | ||
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On October 05 2013 12:46 s0Lstice wrote: Yea, talk to me what you just said about austin. Maybe it's just paranoia but I got little niggling doubts myself. Was that just a gut thing? Paranoia. I have long since stopped trying to stop myself from entertaining those thoughts even though I don't think they've EVER been right. I just can't help it. | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:09 VisceraEyes wrote: What do we think about austin/Pandain/Cheesecake scumteam? Don't do this to me it only increases the paranoia. I really did like my townread on austin, despite the association case and the fact that he refuses to believe I'm town now despite my activity for most of the game. Come to think of it didn't Austin have 'suspicions' on me throughout the game as well? Austin why did you find me scummy BEFORE this association thing? | ||
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I don't know if I can apply it in good conscience here without reading. | ||
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I'm reading CC now...I think I've honestly been ignoring him all game. | ||
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On September 28 2013 01:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: WoS is looking townier by the minute folks. Calling me town at a time nobody else did 'cause I was bein' all ragey. Did I ever bring this up? I remember noticing it before but I guess I didn't find it important. Cheese if you read this, why did you give this read? On October 03 2013 06:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oats is sitting on the sidelines jabbing at people but never pushing lynches. Confirming himself town for predicting a town flip is also BS, but probably sarcasm. This was a post I liked of his. Could mean they're opposite scumteams? lol I dunno there's not a great deal to go on in his filter---early game he pushes hiro and has the same suspicions as basically everyone regarding FT/SP pretty much. What bothers me a little is how he essentially mirrors a lot of my thoughts this game (aside from hiro)----and the reasons he gives are mirrors of mine only given earlier for each one---FT, Oats....I don't know. I don't see anything in his filter that makes me think scum, but nothing overly townie either. Null. | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:16 VisceraEyes wrote: I'd like someone who's not me to comment on this please. Didn't I perpetuate this as well? Do we know what Pandain's read of me is? | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:19 s0Lstice wrote: @WoS his early vote on Oats Oats has the correct reaction (not freaking out) but then CC finds a reason to go after him anyway? Then at VE...who does what mafia are supposed to do and jumps on it. And CC says: So VE fails the test supposedly, is town. Oats passes, but oops still mafia. Its like he had his conclusions picked out before doing it...hence pretense. But didn't he remove his vote from Oats? | ||
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On October 05 2013 13:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Wave, please try to take into account the fact that Im town when analysing other players please. Lets say Im town right, Do you still like that CC post? Yes, because even if you are town it shows CC is thinking about players who are flying under the radar, something I find townies are more likely to do. I don't believe at the time this was brought up anyone was even talking about you. | ||
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