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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 05:04 GMT
#404
On September 27 2013 14:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know, a policy lynch of Vayne OR RNG scumlynch would be a D1 victory for me at this point.
Vayne, I think I'll gun for you D1 in every game.


Ok.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 06:28 GMT
#424
On September 27 2013 15:03 hiro protagonist wrote:
Hmm, VA, in case you dont get it, you need to contribute. you cant just sit there and 'watch'. Unless you give me a good reason for you to just chill back(hint: you cant), then you better start giving me reads. what do you think af the game so far? who is suspicious in your eyes? What might have slipped under the radar?

From this point on, your gonna carry your weight. got it?


I have no interest in petty arguments or random bickering this game. The game is very aggressive and has little content right now, which is to be expected when there are pretty much 4 factions, 3 of which has very small numbers. You'll find out who I think is suspicious through my vote. Not sure what that last question is about. Bed time.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 14:53 GMT
#549
I wouldn't say my suspicion of you yamato is unfounded, here is his filter from persona http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425521&user=yamato77

In it we find countless one to three liners that are basically just posted to insult people, similar to this game. You also tried to push me in that game for silly reasons and no one followed you since your reasons for lynching people are terrible when you are scum. Eventually you'll try and make a big "reads" post and then eventually get lazy and stop trying as scum again, resorting to more personal attacks.

Compare that to how you played the recent TL mafia and it's not even close. If you want to prove you are town then I suggest stop posting nothing but insults, because you only do that as scum. Your town game consists of insults and analysis.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 15:14 GMT
#559
On September 28 2013 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How is my case unconvincing? There is no reason for a townie to shit over the town in the beginning of the game and eclare the game is basically lost. There is zero town motivation in that. If you can give me one good reason why promoting badtown atmosphere is townie then i will reconsider my vot.

I have written big cases in past. It does not work because people don't even read what i write in those cases. My case on WoS is simple and easily to be understood. It doesn't need to have anything else. What makes him scum is enough.

And no, i am not scum, and no, i am not being inconsistent.


actually I agree with you, he says he is going to policy lynch me every game but this is the only time he has actually gone through with it. and he hasn't had a scum game in a while.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 15:42 GMT
#587
Koshi, meta is never a good reason to vote for anyone, hence why im not voting for yamato. But you have to admit his play looks surprisingly similar. I'm not too worried because if he's scum he will mess up later. don't see a point in lynching yamato day 1.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 15:45 GMT
#594
On September 28 2013 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 00:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
Koshi, meta is never a good reason to vote for anyone, hence why im not voting for yamato. But you have to admit his play looks surprisingly similar. I'm not too worried because if he's scum he will mess up later. don't see a point in lynching yamato day 1.

Meta is an extremely good reason to vote for someone.
Why dont you think so?


Would you think it would be fun if people meta'ed me when I don't really have a certain playstyle? So I don't hold people to some extra standards. I just look for motivation behind scum driven agenda. Even lying isn't really a big deal to me, that annoys me when people think lying = scum
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 15:48 GMT
#600
On September 28 2013 00:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 00:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
Koshi, meta is never a good reason to vote for anyone, hence why im not voting for yamato. But you have to admit his play looks surprisingly similar. I'm not too worried because if he's scum he will mess up later. don't see a point in lynching yamato day 1.

Meta is an extremely good reason to vote for someone.
Why dont you think so?


Would you think it would be fun if people meta'ed me when I don't really have a certain playstyle? So I don't hold people to some extra standards. I just look for motivation behind scum driven agenda. Even lying isn't really a big deal to me, that annoys me when people think lying = scum

Dont you agree that people play certain ways as scum and different ways as town? You arent 'everyone'.

VE, doesnt matter, got whiteknighted.

Why do I have a feeling that Yamato is gonna flip town guys


yea, hence why I brought up the yamato filter. But I don't think its a good enough reason to lynch some one by itself. There should be some sort of explanation for the yamato votes but I don't see much of any.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 15:49 GMT
#604
On September 28 2013 00:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 00:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
Koshi, meta is never a good reason to vote for anyone, hence why im not voting for yamato. But you have to admit his play looks surprisingly similar. I'm not too worried because if he's scum he will mess up later. don't see a point in lynching yamato day 1.

Meta is an extremely good reason to vote for someone.
Why dont you think so?


Would you think it would be fun if people meta'ed me when I don't really have a certain playstyle? So I don't hold people to some extra standards. I just look for motivation behind scum driven agenda. Even lying isn't really a big deal to me, that annoys me when people think lying = scum

Dont you agree that people play certain ways as scum and different ways as town? You arent 'everyone'.

VE, doesnt matter, got whiteknighted.

Why do I have a feeling that Yamato is gonna flip town guys


yea, hence why I brought up the yamato filter. But I don't think its a good enough reason to lynch some one by itself. There should be some sort of explanation for the yamato votes but I don't see much of any.

You're ignoring my post on the matter.


I saw it. There's a lot of people not trying to find scum right now, myself included. The thread is going nowhere fast.

We already have 3 people in this game trying to grudge vote me or something and I really doubt they are all scum, so not alignment indicative for me right now.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 15:56 GMT
#612
On September 28 2013 00:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 00:49 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 28 2013 00:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
Koshi, meta is never a good reason to vote for anyone, hence why im not voting for yamato. But you have to admit his play looks surprisingly similar. I'm not too worried because if he's scum he will mess up later. don't see a point in lynching yamato day 1.

Meta is an extremely good reason to vote for someone.
Why dont you think so?


Would you think it would be fun if people meta'ed me when I don't really have a certain playstyle? So I don't hold people to some extra standards. I just look for motivation behind scum driven agenda. Even lying isn't really a big deal to me, that annoys me when people think lying = scum

Dont you agree that people play certain ways as scum and different ways as town? You arent 'everyone'.

VE, doesnt matter, got whiteknighted.

Why do I have a feeling that Yamato is gonna flip town guys


yea, hence why I brought up the yamato filter. But I don't think its a good enough reason to lynch some one by itself. There should be some sort of explanation for the yamato votes but I don't see much of any.

You're ignoring my post on the matter.


I saw it. There's a lot of people not trying to find scum right now, myself included. The thread is going nowhere fast.

We already have 3 people in this game trying to grudge vote me or something and I really doubt they are all scum, so not alignment indicative for me right now.

Okay, what about the fact that he said "Grack has been talked about too much for me to lynch"

Does that make sense at all? Like at all? Isn't yamato supposed to be...you know...GOOD if he's town?


lol I sometimes think the same thing but this game is different, you only have 2 allies as scum. So yes that's a pretty silly thing to say in his format. Grack is stll a good lynch imo.

Have to go now ill be back later
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 17:46 GMT
#687
Could you explain how I went from a policy vote to scum WoS? I don't really understand your analysis here because your play is not townier here. All you have tried to do is push a policy lynch on me so far.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 17:48 GMT
#689
In fact, it was 50x better in persona and hence why I didn't vote for you day 1, opting to vote for yamato instead.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:00 GMT
#707
On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:02 GMT
#710
WoS backpedaling and not addressing concerns/explaining his thought process is concerning as well. Seems like he's just throwing random stuff out there at this point
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#722
On September 28 2013 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
WoS backpedaling and not addressing concerns/explaining his thought process is concerning as well. Seems like he's just throwing random stuff out there at this point

Hey Vayne, you've played scum with me. What am I like as scum?


Quite a while ago when you still had some humility, so I don't know if there's anything to be gained there. You reminded me of grack though, constantly paranoid in the QT which goes against how you are posting here. But even if you are town, it's not great play. Randomly I jumped from a policy lynch to scum and there's nothing there to explain that. The entire post is about rayn. Makes zero sense
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:08 GMT
#727
On September 28 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.

You're scum aren't you. That wasn't even my strategy that was your strategy. terrible reasoning.
"People know about bussing the vanilla scum for the most part so I'd say Grack is our bus of choice" - Vayne.

You were the first one in the QT to mention the idea of bussing.


? I'm talking about your early vote on BH ( OP ) you put an early vote on him and your confirmation bias clouds your judgement. I don't recall ever actually bussing you in that game besides throwing dirt on you. Never actually voted for you until later
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:13 GMT
#737
On September 28 2013 03:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh I see Vayne I guess you missed this post.
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah Vayne cares about his scumgame way more than his towngame.
I feel really good about VA lynch today.
At worst, policy 'cuz I don't like his play in most games, and at best, scum.
Win-win.

GOGO VOTE VA



How is that anything except a policy lynch? Doesn't make me scum in the slightest.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:14 GMT
#738
On September 28 2013 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.

You're scum aren't you. That wasn't even my strategy that was your strategy. terrible reasoning.
"People know about bussing the vanilla scum for the most part so I'd say Grack is our bus of choice" - Vayne.

You were the first one in the QT to mention the idea of bussing.


? I'm talking about your early vote on BH ( OP ) you put an early vote on him and your confirmation bias clouds your judgement. I don't recall ever actually bussing you in that game besides throwing dirt on you. Never actually voted for you until later

SO I put an early vote on OP. That didn't work out well in my favor so why would I do the same thing again. Me being right on scum makes me less likely to be town? Are you kidding me? honestly horrible, awful, unbelievably bad reasoning. You are probably trying to play dumb like you did last game.


This post only cements my read on you as scum, you did the same thing in golden sun. Went out of your way to call people out on "bad reasoning" constantly. really nothing left to say to you
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:17 GMT
#741
On September 28 2013 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.

You're scum aren't you. That wasn't even my strategy that was your strategy. terrible reasoning.
"People know about bussing the vanilla scum for the most part so I'd say Grack is our bus of choice" - Vayne.

You were the first one in the QT to mention the idea of bussing.


? I'm talking about your early vote on BH ( OP ) you put an early vote on him and your confirmation bias clouds your judgement. I don't recall ever actually bussing you in that game besides throwing dirt on you. Never actually voted for you until later

SO I put an early vote on OP. That didn't work out well in my favor so why would I do the same thing again. Me being right on scum makes me less likely to be town? Are you kidding me? honestly horrible, awful, unbelievably bad reasoning. You are probably trying to play dumb like you did last game.


This post only cements my read on you as scum, you did the same thing in golden sun. Went out of your way to call people out on "bad reasoning" constantly. really nothing left to say to you

Again you don't think I feel an urge to call out bad reasoning as town?


It's more the fact that you have to go out of your way to do an ad hom attack. Instead of just explaining why it's bad reasoning you go into douchy loser mode which is what scum is forced to resort to.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 18:19 GMT
#747
On September 28 2013 03:18 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:17 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:06 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:59 ShiaoPi wrote:
ebwop: I mean go back and look at that exchange and tell me a good reason why koshi does not consider the possibility of town!Grack


Because they are scum together? Grack did this strategy in golden sun too where he tries to bus one of his partners really early. If grack or koshi flips scum you know where im going next.

You're scum aren't you. That wasn't even my strategy that was your strategy. terrible reasoning.
"People know about bussing the vanilla scum for the most part so I'd say Grack is our bus of choice" - Vayne.

You were the first one in the QT to mention the idea of bussing.


? I'm talking about your early vote on BH ( OP ) you put an early vote on him and your confirmation bias clouds your judgement. I don't recall ever actually bussing you in that game besides throwing dirt on you. Never actually voted for you until later

SO I put an early vote on OP. That didn't work out well in my favor so why would I do the same thing again. Me being right on scum makes me less likely to be town? Are you kidding me? honestly horrible, awful, unbelievably bad reasoning. You are probably trying to play dumb like you did last game.


This post only cements my read on you as scum, you did the same thing in golden sun. Went out of your way to call people out on "bad reasoning" constantly. really nothing left to say to you

Again you don't think I feel an urge to call out bad reasoning as town?


It's more the fact that you have to go out of your way to do an ad hom attack. Instead of just explaining why it's bad reasoning you go into douchy loser mode which is what scum is forced to resort to.

It is bad reasoning because you are just assuming that I cannot possibly be right as town. There's no reason why someone else being scum should point to me being scum.


ah but you see it's too late to backtrack now. you already made that post. can't delete the douchy ad hom attack =(
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 27 2013 19:20 GMT
#811
That was my impression as well. I don't think we should be taking the scum claims that lightly, but palmar is the one that least concerns me atm. Pandain and grack had much weirder ones.
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