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If I do change my vote (hint: not likely) it won't be because of anything you said. | ||
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Read the big text. ![[image loading]](http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/stop_e15485_2359153.jpg) | ||
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On October 04 2013 13:47 Pandain wrote: your lucky i think your town You think my town what? | ||
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But yeah I'm done for now. I'll be back during the day and maybe/probably around for deadline as well with relevant stuff to say and whatnot. | ||
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On October 04 2013 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote: No I don't believe that him disappearing says anything about his alignment. Just like I don't think that my disappearing for a while was alignment indicative. Just like you disappearing wasn't alignment indicative. :/ What really irks me is Wave's insistence on FT tbh. Like, FT is NOTORIOUSLY bad with regard to activity iirc, and he's pretty often suspected as a result. But he's like, literally opting out of discussion today simply to get this lynch that is already happening. Doesn't that strike you as odd? Narp. Someone already brought up the examples but check out Nuclear Winter for an example of how FT normally plays. If FT will be modkilled I will vote Vayne or Oats. | ||
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I'm sick of letting people who should have died ages ago live because people were dumb around lynch time and got scum-influenced. Look at Cephiro in Noire for example. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:14 Palmar wrote: btw, planning a voteswing is usually an awful idea. I know I should probably not be arguing this as said voteswing most likely would be onto me, but if I'm FT and reading this thread right now, I just don't post anything, hope town voteswings and post my vote right at the deadline. He's dead anyway and it stops town from usefulness for another cycle. He has already posted this cycle, so he is very much aware of this game. What do you mean by planning a vote swing? Should I not have said where I am likely to vote if FT gets modkilled? I'm not sure I understand what you're referring to. | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:18 Pandain wrote: The fundamental problem is that you refuse to accept the possibility that FT isn't scum. There is no connection to him and SnB. He also isn't lurking, he's simply not posting. Yes scum can do that but it's less likely. How often do townies actually mega lurk? Very rarely and rarely do they stop posting after saying they would post more because that's suspicious. Scum are actually rarely the lurkiest of the lurks. That's why towns are losing lately we focus too much on post count and too little on what is said. I would rather lung S0lstice then FT for instance No. I wanted FT dead long before his post count was dead, dude. A major reason towns lose is because they don't consider NK analysis with regards to dead players' reads. And guess who I'm on? | ||
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On August 04 2012 00:47 Palmar wrote: The problem with intelligent townies is that they need to be right, and you need to be wrong. Non-top town players aren't terrible, they're just less adept at coming up with solutions, that doesn't mean they're incapable of recognizing a correct solution when it's presented to them by a top town player. Which is why killing town heads is so important. One amazing town player, can make 10 decent townies good. Almost everyone in this game is at least decent or good, so all it takes is someone to lead them, then they WILL recognize what is correct and what is not, and steamroll the mafia. The emphasis here is that decent townies recognise good solutions when they're presented to them. Unfortunately way too many townies atm don't take the time to assess and appreciate the correct answers given to them by strong townies (or just townies who are correct and making good arguments), and instead go off and do their own (incorrect) thing. The bolded section is something marv wrote. Do you think this may be relevant to the current situation at all? | ||
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On October 05 2013 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have not said SnB called FT town. Mafia usually tends to not call their scumbuddies town, they tend to call someone else scummier. Look at SnB's filter and his arguments on FT -- ShiaoPi, if you can't see that as defending FT by proxy then i dunno what to tell you.. Better phrased than I did but yes. This. | ||
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On October 05 2013 01:04 Pandain wrote: Koshi you told me to look at Persona 2 but look at this: I've barely even gone through it and these are good posts. They are strong and logical and he states his opinions. Sorry, this isn't town Vayne meta, he's playing like shit While I agree somewhat, you can't meta Vayne based on that. Go look at some of his other town games. Go look at I Swear It's Normal or whatever that was called. | ||
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There were a couple things that made me lean townier on you over the past couple pages but I forgot what they were. I'd put at a firm null right now, which is an improvement over the scum I had before. | ||
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What seems objectively scummier? A days-long push on a target to get them lynched or a days-long defense on a target to make sure they don't get lynched? I'm not really leading for a specific answer here I'm genuinely curious because I have never in my mafia career experienced what Pandain has been doing. | ||
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On October 05 2013 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have said it for like 100 times, Grackaroni said it too. Palmar is not helping the town. Palmar didn't help town a great deal in LXI either and was a lot of the reason people were all over him all game (aside from the triple cop claim caper). | ||
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On October 05 2013 01:17 Pandain wrote: Vayne is not playing like he ever has before, only the trolly nature resides. He has contributed before such as I outlined here in Persona. He made reads there and votes and pushed them. This time he has done none of that. Two votes on Grack which no one else ever joined and he never pushed, suspicions of me and palmar which he never pushed forward and still doesn't vote Palmar, and most importantly not backing them up like he has done before. 8 pages of filter and absolute shit. Vayne is scum and his meta doesn't excuse it. Please for the love of god how can you guys not recognize scum so clearly. I told you already, I agree.  I just want FT dead first. | ||
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On October 05 2013 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's not really true. He agreed with people who made logical arguments (mainly me & Sharrant from what i remember) and the marv&geript stuff threw him totally off. I distinctly remember arguing with him over hislack of caring and contribution in that game. I really don't feel like going back and checking right now, but as far as I know, the reasoning as to why Palmar is scum being because he's not helping town....sadly doesn't make him scum solely. | ||
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On October 05 2013 01:20 Pandain wrote: Wave will you be here at deadline? Should be. Why? | ||
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On October 05 2013 01:21 Koshi wrote: Can we say the 3 wagons are VA, FT and Palmar? I'd rather lynch Oats as 3rd choice. | ||
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