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havent read snb's filter. Dont really wanna lynch kush Wanna lynch blubbdavid and uhh The Panther | ||
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On September 14 2013 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Pantherdude is not necessarily scum. His posts are hard to read and i would hope he would make more consolidated posts but it does not make him scum. lol its not that his posts are hard to read, its his policy lynch push which never lynches scum. | ||
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I still wanna lynch blubbdavid for being like blendy and stuff. His push on Koshi is really newb town or scum. And his next post is bad too, calling out Grack for nothing really. On September 12 2013 21:31 blubbdavid wrote: Atm I have three scumreads: Koshi, Grack and Kush Koshi for aforementioned reasons. Kush for his valuable contributions. And Grack: I disagree here with points 1,3,4,5 1. wut 3. have you already made out of thread investigation, Grack? 4. wut 5. you two should be lynched because of scum behaviour, not because you are bad Defending your scum comrade much, leaving him to the vig, if there is one? Hey scumrade, since you're here and in the scum QT anyway, why don't we press together against Pandain? Can you help me find more stuff so that it looks legit. look at this. Like wtf man, its so bad. Never says why he doesnt want to lynch Snb, instead wants to lynch a lurker.... Also man his push on zealos for voting for Snb when he doesnt even think SnB is town. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:01 WaveofShadow wrote: Hmmm. I worry now because I might agree based on Rayn's meta points. SnB come back and have some sort of shitfest with Rayn plz so i can have a better idea/read of you? kthx. you scum bro? | ||
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He has only pushed a policy lynch on Kush for whatever reason. Thats stupid and not something town does. Who wants to waste day 1 killing someone who is almost surely gonna be town without discussion?? Also, he uses the justification that he cant read all these dudes and therefore they should be policy lynched. bullshit. Scum writes Bullshit. Lynch scum. ##vote Old Partner | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:08 Koshi wrote: I have a feeling that the towncore from Persona is town again in this game. Oats, Kush, rayn, Koshi, VA (maybe), WoS (maybe). ezpz why would you name yourself? | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Makes some sense aside from the 'almost surely gonna be town' thing. Why is kush town? Like in theory, almost all policy lynches lynch town. Kush seems like normal kush. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:17 Koshi wrote: I don't want to lynch OP. He reminds me a bit of Crazometer but I don't want to lynch him D: So he reminds you of scum but you dont want to lynch him because? Is there a specifc post that makes you think he's town? | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:20 Koshi wrote: He puts so much work in his posts. They are really really long. What if OP is town? You will lose an asset. and I like OP. He is better than Pandain. Lynch Pandain over OP. hes not an asset. His posts has not helped town lynch scum. Are you seriously blinded by long posts ? Koshi, its getting annoying that you dont have an actual reason to not lynch OP. | ||
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No capitalization at the start of each sentence. tsk. I dunno about SnB. That was either a genuine post or a fake post. Which one... Leaning irritated townie atm. I really much rather kill OP. Seriously why arent you guys voting for OP. 0 people have given a good reason. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:25 Koshi wrote: How is that annoying? I do not have to have a reason to not lynch somebody... And I already said my actual reason. He makes long posts + I like him. Why do you like him, and why is making long posts townie? Blubb, vote for OP! | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:29 strongandbig wrote: im on page 32 and have to go to a talk. ill be back in an hour ish i think. stop whining SnB, if you want to lynch rayn, post a case or something other than you complaining about rayn's push on you. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:32 blubbdavid wrote: weeellll it could be an option. Maybe a better one than lynching SnB. But remember I am egoistical, so I will do whatever averts my death. tbh I haven't really thought about OP's posts because I find them hard to read, will skim through them though. What. What. What. This isnt an RPG. 'Egoistical' isnt a trait. I You should probably stop telling me to vote for zealous without addressing my earlier stuff on you and him. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:37 Papa_Smurf wrote: I dont see why you are pushing a 4th wagon at this point in the day oats What 4th wagon? Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP. Why arent you voting for OP? Second read is Blubb. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:14 blubbdavid wrote: Lol, I may be bad and confused and stuff, but not blendy. NOT BLENDY. My case on Koshi, Grack (where some people agreed with me) and Zealos are pioneering work. And I am calling Zealos out because of that wagonhopping and non-contributions of his. My own views on SnB don't matter in this case. @rayn I will vote for SnB if it is required. This isnt addressing. All the shit you are pointing out from Koshi and Zealous and Grack are all like non alignment indicative. Yeah sure all the stuff you pointed out scum do, BUT TOWN DO TO. You wanting to vote for SnB to save yourself even though you dont really think he is scum is scummy cause if town die, its not as big a deal for them as scum dying. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:42 Papa_Smurf wrote: Op is a fourth wagon. We have only 5 hours left and limited knowldge of who will be here before lynch. Bettwr to concentrate on the 3 main candidates at hand for what? I dont want to lynch SnB today. There are already 2 votes on OP, so he needs like another 3 to be the dude thats gonna die. Do you think thats hard to get?? I dont see the point of you shutting me down like this. Do you prefer regurgitated content or new stuff about a new person that is scum. You have given no reasons why you dont want to lynch OP Papa smurf. Give those reasons. | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:50 blubbdavid wrote: Yes, let's concentrate, and you may very well start with it. What do you think of SnB? If I really was scum I could have made it much, much, fucking much more easier for me. Then I wouldn't even have started with Zealos. Or do you think that both me and SnB are scum? And we are trying to evaluate who to sacrifice? Rly? btw a little tip oats: look out for papa smurf What? So you wouldve played more blendy as scum is that what you are saying? | ||
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Night guys. OP is scum. Lynch him or lynch town. GUARANTEED. | ||
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SnB is probably scum. Not sure on WoS but he seemed really uncommital d1, not being town leaderish, just sitting back and taking potshots and being undecicive about lynching SnB. lol BH almost lynched you ahhahaha. | ||
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I have no clue what Pandian was doing at the end of d1 though, he never mentioned blubb as a scumread and was pushing zealos and kush. Suddenly unvote and vote for probable townie. | ||
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On September 14 2013 13:25 Papa_Smurf wrote: Oats, for gods sake, just make big posts with thorough analysis. It's night. don't need every little shallow thought for what? Ok umasi is scum for voting for OP then calling me scum. Grack is scum for not staying on OP for no particular reason. I didnt see anything that made him change his mind. I explained WoS already. Im gonna be here for like 10 minutes then gone for like 8 hours. I aint got time for making 'big posts'. Big posts are not how blubb got lynched. | ||
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On September 14 2013 13:26 Papa_Smurf wrote: I can see BH pulling a stunt like that. No necessarily just any random person smurfing. So if OP is BH, you think OP is scum. Is that right? | ||
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Blubb thinks you are scum Papa smurf. What do you say to that? | ||
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Sheep me guys. Dont vig zealos or kush. | ||
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On September 14 2013 21:06 strongandbig wrote: The latter. I never try to assemble a "coherent scum team" in my reads. It's a distraction, you need to find s I don't think it's likely bh is scum. But there are things that make me doubt his story somewhat. dude you so scum | ||
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Here's my list so far. 1. Pandain 2. kushm4sta 3. VayneAuthority 4. Old Partner 5. Koshi 6. Strongandbig less sure 7. Onegu replaced D1 by Oatsmaster 8. blubbdavid 9. raynpelikoneet 10. Grackaroni 11. DarthPunk replaced N0 by WaveofShadow 12. Papa_Smurf less sure 13. goodkarma replaced D1 by Umasi 14. Sn0_Man 15. Zealos No reasoning about Rayn ive seen from him, no reasoning about sn0 man, no reasoning about why WoS and I are black but Umasi, arguably the scummiest replacement is green. His waffling around Zealos is also really weird. Nothing about Kush. I mean, his stuff surrounding the lynch was active, but it didnt lead us to a conclusion. He kept deflecting the lynch off OP but never pushed his strongest candidate but instead was ok with lynching like 3 dudes... Also his list doesnt tally with this Umasi, Grack, and Wave gave random votes. Grack never explained, and Wave and Umasi's filters go against what they said before. Umasi said OP was cool with him(and OP didn't post after Umasi). Wave never even really mentioned OP. THESE VOTES DONT MAKE SENSE AND THEY ARE STRANGE And 2 of these names are green in the list. Huh. Also somehow rayn is red. After this being the only post that gives a negative impression of rayn Seriously that list post contradicts like half his reads before the lynch. | ||
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On September 14 2013 21:21 strongandbig wrote: Ur FACe is scum. I'm going back to sleep. Can someone kill this guy? It would be hilarious. Please. | ||
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On September 14 2013 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Oats, what do you think of vayne and debears? i kinda think vayne is too dick to be scum, but debears could be man. Like he wants analysis from me for what reason exactly? To convince him? It didnt really seem like that. Also blubb said he might be scum. SO YEAH. | ||
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Rayn scum. SnB town. Game ez. Sheep vayne all day. | ||
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Dont see how you are missing this rayn. | ||
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What makes you disbelieve it? | ||
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i cant believe you guys thought my post above was good. So bad. So BH as scum does something that might get him modkilled? Uh, No. | ||
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On September 14 2013 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Since when have you been able to read vayne? I mean, based on D1 tell that he is definitely town? I read vayne's filter and it looks like town. Whats your problem with that? | ||
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On September 14 2013 22:32 Koshi wrote: Scummers knew posting roles were allowed because thtey got fake role names in the start. Also, you are town. Grtz on that. Don't forget to send in your cop or other blue actions!!! Fake roles doesnt mean you can post your role pm....... | ||
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On September 14 2013 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: It doesn't look any townier/scummier than vayne's filter from D1 any game. uh ok. Thats your judgement. So why do you call him scummy if you think he is null? | ||
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On September 14 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's the attitude. Why would you think in the first place "we are not lynching mafia this phase"? it still buys time. Im not arguing with you whether Vayne is scum or not. No. | ||
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On September 14 2013 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: And vayne does make good posts as scum. He sheeped my perfectly fine case on Sloosh is Sicilian, left his vote on his scumbuddy and fucked off for the rest of the phase. When VE got lynched he came back and was "mad at people for such a stupid lynch" called everyone dumb and told we should have lynched Sloosh. Yeah, those posts were good as he was right on Sloosh. Did it make him town? no. What? This is a horrible example of 'town' posting. | ||
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On September 14 2013 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe, but it bought him enough town credit to survive to LYLO without doing anything. ???????? | ||
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What. I dont understand. I do not understand. | ||
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On September 14 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am talking about the fact that you should be looking into the people who didn't give a fuck who we lynch. People who had scumreads and didn't push their lynch over the others. vayne, debears, WoS, SnB (to some extent) come to mind as players who usually do not do that. So first you say that Vayne is practically impossible to read. Now you say he is scummy. Ok. Its not even like Vayne is anywhere near lynching for you tmr right? | ||
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On September 14 2013 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not saying vayne is impossible to read ffs. I am saying he is perfectly capable of making good posts as scum as well. ?!??!? Where did I say he townslipped? | ||
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On September 14 2013 23:59 Koshi wrote: So now that this thread is over 150 pages long. Who do you think is scum? Grack+rayn+papa+umasi+WoS Tmr I want Umasi to die. | ||
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On September 15 2013 00:04 Grackaroni wrote: @Oats: You think both Pandain and Vayne are town?? Pandain's actions minutes before the lynch are a complete contradiction to what he was saying earlier, I don't see a townie backing off on a lynch he was in favor of in the last second because the player might be blue, and then voting for somebody he said he was not in favor of lynching. Vayne's reasoning for his top scum read (Koshi) is shit and he has been clinging to it all game. I think a townie would have re-evaluated his reads at this point. So therefore Zealos is scum, Vayne is scum, Pandain is scum. Uhuh. Nope. | ||
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On September 15 2013 00:12 Grackaroni wrote: *sigh* Looks like I'm getting myself into the classic game of scum or dumb. *sigh* look at this extremely constructed post. | ||
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On September 15 2013 00:24 Grackaroni wrote: lol my one liner is too constructed. Talk to me Oats. Tell me why Umasi is scum, all you've said is because he voted for OP and then called you scum. Townies do things like that as well as scum... That is why I'm telling people that if One of BH/Rayn is scum the other is town. Well, BH and Rayn arent even gonna die. So that post was useless. Scum Post useless shit. You scum. Umasi did nothing. Was really easy for him to vote for OP with 0 reasoning. He then called me scum even though he sheeped me for like no reason. Therefore useless/stupid scumreads = to the dude being scum. | ||
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On September 15 2013 00:38 Grackaroni wrote: BH/Rayn aren't even going to to die but I easily could be dead by tomorrow. I agree with you about his vote on OP but your vote on BH was poorly reasoned as well and you also placed it and disappeared. Rayn and I both gave a lot of reasoning for our votes on OP, you/WoS/Umasi did not. Pandain's main target was also a policy lynch, the same Policy lynch as BH's. So why does your reasoning then for BH being scum only apply to BH? Why does it apply to BH then but not Pandain now in light of Pandain's scummy vote switch? It was excellent. BH was playing anti townish. I was the second person to talk about OP and I arguably caused him to be almost lynched. See. OP's post were way more bullshit than Pandain. Also Pandain's vote switch is only scummy if Zealos is scum. Which I dont think so. | ||
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Dude. There is so much more that Pandain posted as opposed to what OP posted when I first entered the thread. Grack is so scum for trying to call me/pandain scum in the same post but not really. Dude. All the stuff you have been asking me is bullshit. So bad. Bullshit. So scum. Guys. | ||
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On September 15 2013 00:45 Grackaroni wrote: Also @Oats, You never answered my question about whether you had any reason to think Zealos was town. You act as if it's ridiculous of me to see one player scummily save another (who has done nothing pro-town all game) and jump to the conclusion that Zealos is scum as well. yeah cause Zealos is town. Like look at his first 5 posts. So town. Like useless people are town. Uh. Yeah cause he would post at least 1 long post in that part if he was scum. | ||
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On September 15 2013 00:58 Grackaroni wrote: Oh my god. people are town because they are useless? I don't think I can do this anymore. uh. Yeah. Ok. | ||
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On September 15 2013 00:57 Grackaroni wrote: You need to read the thread. Rayn was the first person to call BH scum and he gave reasoning. I was the second person to call OP scum and I gave my own reasoning. I don't think you were at all the cause for OP being almost lynched, you had little reasoning. Lol so why were there only 2 votes on OP for like more than 12 hours? Dat Ego. | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:00 Grackaroni wrote: I cannot differentiate scum from dumb and it pisses me off. Pandain makes a scummy vote switch, but it's ok because he switched off a useless player who he thought was scum. So obviously they are both town. So thats your problem. Ok. Right. Pandain did a lot of shit other than the vote switch but thats the only thing you are thinking about? | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:06 Grackaroni wrote: You had only one point and I had already used it in my argument for OP being scum earlier. I don't know why people ended up jumping on it, but I don't think it's fair to say it was because of you. I do think think it's likely a scum jumped on this vote at the end of the day and I don't think there's anything that excludes that scum from being you. So me as scum decides to start up a dead vote because why? Also why did you unvote? | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:10 Grackaroni wrote: When voting for OP your only point was that he is scum for policy lynching. That's not what I'm thinking about I want to know what you are thinking about. i.e., Why didn't that apply to Pandain then and why doesn't that make you suspicious of Pandain now. Pandain did his policy lynch shit kush after I went and slept. Im not suspicious of Pandain now because of his actions around the lynch. He was the dude most influential around the lynch, most active. Hes town. | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:15 Grackaroni wrote: Once again you aren't reading the posts because I've said this multiple times. I unvoted because I agreed with Pandain at the time and it was weird to me (and still is) that all of the votes were falling in without me even being there to push them. You may like to think you were, but you sure as hell weren't the reason. Blub was town, BH is likely 3rd Party, Kush is likely town just by looking at the votes. You're a replacement, you could have pushed basically any lynch you'd like. So you unvote because there are a lotta weird votes on OP. However, I wasnt one of those weird votes. I voted way before the rush of umasi and other dudes. So how come Im one of the weird votes? | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:18 Grackaroni wrote: Pandain pushed a policy lynch on Kush all game. You just aren't reading the game. yeah and? Look, OP's posts are way different from Pandain. And you arent admitting that. And its really weird. | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:24 Grackaroni wrote: I do agree OP's posts were different from Pandain's and there was much more reasoning for an OP lynch than a Pandain lynch when you came in. It just seemed weird to me that you only gave one point for OP being scum and it equally applied to another player and that you still don't think it applies to Pandain now. I'll accept that it was fine then for you to be suspicious of one player and not another doing the same thing, since Pandain was influential during the lynch and did seem townie. But in light of the scummy vote switch I would think that would be another point in your eyes to Pandain being scum now. well there were other reasons, main one is that OP was being purposely obtuse. and also he didnt do anything else, and his posts were long. Thats why I thought he was scum. How many times do I have to say that I think Zealos is town? that makes pandain's switch not scummy. What the fuck Grack. | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:37 Grackaroni wrote: We will have to agree to disagree. I don't subscribe to the notion that people are town because they are useless. You do subscribe to the notion that useless=scum Which I dont agree with. And which is never ever true. | ||
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On September 15 2013 01:44 Grackaroni wrote: i cannot remember who, but somebody had meta reasons showing that Zealos does play this way as scum. lol. This attitude. So scum. | ||
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On September 15 2013 02:30 Grackaroni wrote: I'm very confident that Pandain/Zealos are scum. I'm doing what I can to try to convince you, but you won't be convinced either because you are scum and defending your buddies or just dumb. but you're wrong or scum. | ||
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Scum has reasons. Town has reasons. Why are you calling having reasons townie? Not having reasons is more townie. | ||
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On September 15 2013 02:54 Grackaroni wrote: If I ever play as scum in a game with you I am going be completely useless and give absolutely no reason for anything I do and watch how you respond. k cool. You know, thats what all the town dudes say when they are irritated with my foolproof way of reading people. I guess you're town. Vayne did that another game. | ||
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On September 15 2013 03:02 Papa_Smurf wrote: Grack's analysis on Pandains vote on blubb over zealos is very correct and very certainly a lynchable offense. Lynch someone who you think you can read later over someone you think is scum. And the person you voted for ended up being town, when you said you didn't want to lynch them earlier. That's very contradictive in a scum oriented way Man. Debears. Are you ok with lynching Umansi? | ||
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On September 15 2013 03:20 Papa_Smurf wrote: I was thinking zealos as of now. Pandain is certainly possible, but I had him as my strongest town read until Grack pointed his vote out. I have to reexamine him Im confused why you didnt notice the vote before Grack pointed it out. | ||
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So bad. Pandain, why cant SnB get town roleblocked? | ||
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Why does Rayn get townie points for being on OP Pandain? If rayn was scum, OP was a mislynch. | ||
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On September 15 2013 12:15 Pandain wrote: I have never been in a game with a town roleblocker, is that a thing now while I've been gone? There have been town roleblockers in minis. | ||
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On September 15 2013 12:17 Umasi wrote: oats, why on earth do you want to keep BH alive? either there's two survivors or he's clearly lying :| So why do you think I dont want to kill BH? | ||
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On September 15 2013 12:14 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont want to lynch OP, he's cool. Why does Rayn get townie points for being on OP Pandain? If rayn was scum, OP was a mislynch. | ||
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Sorry for stupid question | ||
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hmm? Im asking why Umasi thinks I dont want to kill BH. Im confused. Also I answered the second part earlier, I was wrong :x | ||
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On September 15 2013 12:33 kushm4sta wrote: i have realized recently that just because panda is a vet that does not make him good at finding scums! or he could be very excellent scum that is another possibilty lol kush. Who you wanna lynch? | ||
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On September 15 2013 12:35 Pandain wrote: Probably because you said you don't want to lynch OP in the post above. I'll be back in 30 minutes, hope you're ok with that Papa. I want to play super smash with my friend and don't feel too compelled to justify myself atm. Think about the question in another way. | ||
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Anyway Papa smurf is scum and we should lynch him. Totally. Guys why are we voting for BH. Who is good as scum. Who doesnt play like shit day 1 as scum. Come on. Thats silly. | ||
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On September 15 2013 22:16 kushm4sta wrote: oats did you or anyone else write why you think he's scum? not really. Uh. blubb thinks hes scum. Hes generally not actually been useful although it looks like it. But not really. | ||
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What did we say to convince you? | ||
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Probably wont be back for 24 hours. Sadly. I assume you guys will lynch Papasmurf. | ||
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So if OP flips survivor Papa smurf, will you be really sad? | ||
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On September 16 2013 06:02 strongandbig wrote: ok also i have no idea how there would be a difference in bh's filter between him being SK and him being survivor. any ideas? or should we just lynch him for the breadcrumb? SnB scum just for this post. | ||
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On September 16 2013 08:24 Grackaroni wrote: I'm supposed to assume that people voting on somebody don't actually have an intent to lynch the person they are voting for? Are you kidding me!!?! You're supposed to assume that whoever someone votes, he wants the person dead. Oh wait, too complicated for you. Right. Also you are 1 shot bulletproof, so it doesnt even matter that you arent posting your role pm. | ||
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On September 16 2013 08:30 Koshi wrote: He is fucking scum. He just went all out and is hesitant about posting the role pm. hahahahahhaa. Going to vote this for worst mafia play 2013. lol so why would scum claim vet first? Especially since grack is under no pressure. Makes no sense to me as a scum play. | ||
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I think Rayn is scum and debears is town. | ||
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 Uh, I dont like your vayne read, and your townread on koshi means koshi is confirmed town. Nice job. | ||
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Pandain is town. Grack is town, kush i dunno. I think hes town cause he hasnt really been bussing it seems. | ||
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On September 17 2013 00:15 Pandain wrote: Oats I still don't understand why you want BH alive. You think there being two survivors is more likely than PS being town? i 180ed | ||
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On September 17 2013 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: EBWOP: debears, i mean you are the one who remembers your games the best. Maybe kushmasta is right and you don't get mad as town. Maybe he is wrong, but i actually think it's kinda ridiculous to ask him to quote all your town games ever and say "see, there is nowhere to be found you get mad as town". You can easily do that, you just have to find one thing, and if you are town you should do so, because that makes kushmasta to look elsewhere. In case he is scum he might fuck up or continue the tunnel on you for no reason. In case he is town he will try to prove that in other ways (attacking other people). At this point his tunnel feels justified to me. rayn is scum cause of this. | ||
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On September 17 2013 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seriously Oats, wtf are you doing this game? You are just trolling around not trying to even look like anything.. uh I found OP. And I found rayn | ||
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On September 17 2013 00:41 Pandain wrote: Both of you guys are town. This is what I got out of this lol how is rayn's response alignment indicative | ||
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On September 17 2013 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is not true. I always shoot down bad cases on my townreads. Even on my scumreads, but if someone makes a case on my scumread that i think is bad i usually let them answer first. You call this shooting down a case?? You have been 'musing' over it for like 2 pages already. | ||
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On September 17 2013 01:34 Papa_Smurf wrote: This is scum kush right here. "My case is so right". Then picking 2 of the towniest players in the thread, and one that is considered town by about half the thread as the scumteam. Yeah right. Kush, there's a reason why no one has ever made a meta case on me. Because I play the same as either alignment. The fact that are building your case around your read and not your read around your case is scummy. + Show Spoiler + On September 15 2013 22:59 kushm4sta wrote: 1) also his cases this game have been overly simplistic and directed towards very easy targets. His scumread list atm is OP - claimed survivor Me - afker everyone wants to kill with fire Zealos - classic lynch bait It's like he's going for the most obvious shit and not even trying to find scum. 2) In terms of meta, town debears is levelheaded and logical. Scum debears is much louder and more emotional. Recall his bitchfit with rayne for no reason. Another thing that scum debears loves to do is yell at people about how to play the game. This is scumdebears from NMXXIX: Here is this game (just one of the many times he has done something like this): already have disproved 1) and 2a) On September 16 2013 02:11 kushm4sta wrote: 3) As scum you tell people how to play like with general newbie tips for how to play mafia. In your example, you were explaining why someone's case was bad / your thought process. It was not a superficial tip like you do in your scumgames. Here is another example: This is completely different than the type of lecturing you did in that town game. ~~~~ 4) Regarding your emotionality, in your town examples of you being emotional, it's not really that emotional. You are simple explaining yourself and using capitalization for emphasis. 5) You have a completely different attitude as town. You are calm, methodical, logical. As scum you are aggressive, blunt, and mean. You look for superficial scumtells and latch onto them without analyzing deeper. ~~~~ You try to discount me because I've provided only two examples. I only did two in my original thread because I am lazy and tired and shit (awake all night). I have provided two more in this post. There are more still! ~~~~ 6) Add to that the fact that you are literally freaking out right now. Your posting rate has jumped like crazy, like your heart rate if you had a gun to your head. You put crap tons of effort into this defense. Quoting past games and shit. If only you put a fraction of that effort into scum hunting, maybe I might believe you are town. On September 16 2013 02:30 kushm4sta wrote: 7) @ps also please show me where you were a dick to someone in a town game. I think acting like a dick is a huge scumtell for you. 1) Already show how I have simplistic reads that are very successful (especially lately) 2) Funny thing is, if you look at desert postgame. I was bitching at raynp there after I stopped here. It's non alignment indicative. I even said don't consider it as part of my filter I'm pretty sure. 3) is definitely misconstrusing my contributions this game. 1st, there is/was no reason to wifom about the WoS nk. It should be pretty clear that scum would not shoot him. Scum's goal is to get rid of the towniest players. WoS was not a "towniest" player. Also, if things like these were my only contributions, then you'd have something. You are cherrypicking 1 quote and ignoring the cases in my filter. 5) Repeating the points in 2 4 and 6) These points are both bullshit, and totally misrepresent my meta, because you should have read Mario mini's day 1 if you want to know my meta when I'm like this. I freak out over stupidity and bad cases on me. Yours is that. I did in in MM, and I'm doing it here, because I think you aren't that fucking bad as town to come up with such a horrible misrepresentative case. 7) Now he comes up with "oh debears is a dick as scum" after I purge his "emotional" tell. And you know what? He hasn't shown any quotes from my scum game of me being a pure dick. I'd love to see that. Kush claimed to have read my games, yet his failure to recognize the similar circumstances between this game and mario mini (day 1) are amazingly unacceptable. That means he didn't read my games. He skimmed and cherrypicked. no, scum kush is actually right. | ||
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On September 17 2013 01:51 Papa_Smurf wrote: Like it's the same thing as saying "debears never busses his scumbuddies". It may be true. But, I know that it's true and I'm saving it so I can suddenly change it one game and solo win to vicory he does it. Every game. | ||
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On September 17 2013 02:46 Sn0_Man wrote: I, for one, am reasonably willing to believe you are a survivor. You are getting lynched though. Host would literally have to confirm you in-thread before I unvote you. anyway sn0 is scum. Confirmed | ||
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On September 17 2013 02:53 Old Partner wrote: Well see back then I had the protection of the Smurf! People thought my long worthless posts meant something! nope. | ||
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On September 17 2013 03:14 Sn0_Man wrote: Its a mini but its a closed setup there's no reason scum can't have more than 1 KP for example. Also WoS could totally have forgotten to hide iunno. I agree though scum tossing KP at him doesn't make too much sense to me. useless post. whos scum today that isnt OP?> | ||
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On September 17 2013 03:20 Sn0_Man wrote: 7 people dumbass. Also, no the post wasn't useless. Its important to note that there is no reason scum can't have a varying amount of factional or personal KP in this game since we DONT KNOW. Too many people assuming scum get 1 NK. oh shit. That totally makes a difference in who is scum. Oh wait it doesnt. My bad. | ||
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On September 17 2013 04:10 Old Partner wrote: everyone wants to lynch me, oats. but not everyone thinks you are survivor. | ||
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On September 17 2013 04:31 Sn0_Man wrote: ? I'm at least wondering why nobody mentioned it in the past 30 pages or w/e. If we assume it's because Koshi/Zealos are masoned then that is worth discussion anyway... Either way, At least let me know why you think I'm scum so that I can inform you of your incorrectness Oats. I was under the impression that arguments and reasons were important factors in calling somebody scum. Well. 1. You said that you think its likely OP is survivor but will only unvote with host confirmation. Then later you said you really think OP is survivor. So why the fuck is your vote on him? Cause he isnt scum. 2. You point out a joke and construe it as scummy. Thats scummy. Ez ggnore. | ||
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On September 17 2013 04:41 Sn0_Man wrote: Hows that a joke? Okay if its a joke how come nobody even commented on it? Grumble grumble okay so I'm the guy who didn't get it. Hey dumbass its absolutely retarded not to lynch OP. He agrees. Just because you think somebody is 3rd party doesn't mean you don't LYNCH THE FUCK out of them because they need to be gone. You can't have a question mark around like that at LYLO. Hell, probably half the townies voting whatsisface think he's probably survivor. That doesn't matter one bit. Especially since if he is survivor theres no way he gets NK'd or vigged. The only way we resolve the question of WTF is going on is by lynching him. My belief regarding the answer is irrelevant. Beyond that he obviously doesn't want to help town lynch scum he just wants to save his own ass hows that helping town win? Having him around is simply not worth the doubt. Besides who do you wanna lynch? Debears? Please. Lynching that guy is retarded today. Then why did you say Host would literally have to confirm you in-thread before I unvote you. We could lynch scum today. Not that its gonna happen in 2 hours. | ||
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On September 17 2013 05:22 Old Partner wrote: If anyone can be aware of an obvious scumslip like that (boldly stating something in a way that only makes sense for scum, ie "saying 'in the QT'" or "stating you did a night action that only scum can do") and know how to cover for it, it's oats. this kind of thing happens, and even accounting for that, Zealos is still objectively scummy. because of what exactly? Actually, make a case on Zealos. Looks like you might get some support. | ||
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On September 17 2013 05:24 Old Partner wrote: There's also something worth noting about the fact that even if it's not a scumslip, it could still be an indicator of scum mindset. Who has Qts on their minds? Who would "joke" about talking in the QT? sure, a lightheartd town, but what about a scum "trying too hard" to appear townie? This is exactly the kind of "awkward joke" your parents would make about teen music or something when you were a kid, and they were trying too hard to be something they're not. i did it before. It was funny. | ||
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On September 17 2013 05:33 Old Partner wrote: he was trying to play it off like a joke and failing which reaction are we talking about here? The one which i called sno scum in, or the HAHAHAHHA one? | ||
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On September 17 2013 05:39 Umasi wrote: aside from it being a likely mistake to make or not, if he made it, he made it. oats reaction is the most suspicious thing about it imo. quote post please. | ||
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On September 17 2013 05:41 Umasi wrote: those three posts happened consecutively. it was funny. What.. Im so confused. | ||
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Zealos makes a joke and Oats laughs at it. Man are there enough to lynch Papa smurf? I dont think so. | ||
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On September 17 2013 05:55 Sn0_Man wrote: Oats why don't you wish to lynch OP? cause hes cute and not scum. | ||
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BH is not flipping red. Not flipping green. All of you are bad. And should probably listen to me. Cheerio. | ||
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After n1, I think he was not in anyone's townlist so why would scum roleblock him and give him towncred? Makes no sense to me. Nobody saw anything blue about him right? Thats why Im thinking its a town roleblock. Also Scum wont send kp through SnB, so I doubt kp was blocked from that. | ||
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On September 17 2013 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Talking about the vote switces, why would BH vote for Zealos and Pandain switch to blubbers if they were scum together? If there is one townie who switches back to OP (remember i was yelling that at the end of D1) it's ensured BH gets lynched. I think everyone was confused. So I wouldnt say that this makes Pandain and BH not scum together. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would scum not send KP through SnB? unless hes the towniest dude in the scum team, which I highly doubt. Do you think he was the towniest dude? | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can't really call scum confused can you? They have QT to discuss things and make plans. Townies yes, were likely confused. I mean, if we assume Zealos is scum aswell. Would BH and scum take a risk of having 2 scum wagons opposed to one town wagon where if one townie swittches votes scum dies? in a 5 minute span? No way effective communication happens. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: In case SnB is town scum would probably assume he is blue from the way he played D1 and N1. Because really, he has not engaged into any discussion other than me/Zealos. You are really trying to justify the scum roleblock on SnB. Why? | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's not a 5min span. The voteswitch on OP happened 5:12-5:14. Lynch was 7:00. That's nearly 2 hours for scum to figure out how to get out of that shit. not that dude. the part where OP voted for zealos and pandain voted for bubbles. Isnt that what we are talking about? Also, look back at n1, SnB was like the second probable lynch man. After OP. and he was scum roleblocked which pretty much makes it hard to lynch him??? Thats horrific scum play. And it didnt happen. Town RB's that arent JK's exist too man. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats, if Pandain or SnB is scum, why did they try to push kush & Zealos instead of easy blubbers? Why not? Easy blubbers was easy. Town was already lynching blubbers for them. And that isnt to say that Kush or Zealos werent as easy. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:40 kushm4sta wrote: Oats you are being dumb. What has grack done? Nothing. His fakeclaim wasnt townie at all. It is out of place and makes no sense. Panda makes his one d1 appearance to say the fake claim it's good (lol). Also he ends up claiming vt, which is pretty terrible as town. Kochi I think two of those three changed their votes.it's very possible.losing scum d1 is very bad for scum. So Grack as scum decides to Fakeclaim Vet when their kp is blocked and they dont know why?. uh. ok. The stupidness of his claim makes him town. It was horrific. But it makes him town | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:46 kushm4sta wrote: OATS why !no! Why is that true? The assumptions you are making are bad and wrong. Same is true for Rayne w with his vote analysis. Bad claim = town claim. Every fucking time. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:49 Koshi wrote: Oats do you have strong scumreads? What about Vayne? I think Vayne is town. For now. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:58 kushm4sta wrote: Bh claim was retarded. We had to kill him. He should have said nothing and hoped no one noticed. Simply not true that gracks claim makes him town. Why woudn scum do that? They have that fake claim they can use. Why wouldnt scum change their timestamps?they are afraid theirs will reveal something. In fact who would think to change timestamps other than scum? Look at gracks play otherwise. It is scummy as fuck Grack fakeclaimed. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote: 1) Therole PM said 3 scummers. He was GF so yeah, most important role gave us information. 2) SK+Survivor+4scummers is impossible. 3) Survivor + 4scummers is possible. But they didn't shoot WoS. role pm didnt say any amount of scummy dudes. Town 2 shot vig shot WoS. There are 4 scum mate. | ||
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On September 17 2013 22:10 Koshi wrote: Fuck that. 3 scummers + SK is most likely. The entire game screams it. so do you want to lynch Sn0 dude tmr? | ||
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On September 17 2013 22:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats what do you make of Sno_man going silent when you asked him about proving that BH is a survivor? I mean his reasoning "the meeting is over now", when he has before that posted 6 times in an hour? no idea man. | ||
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On September 17 2013 22:32 Koshi wrote: Waitttt. Now that I read his filter I might. ffs. He gets bumped down to null. But I still don't want to lynch him tmrw. Final answer. forgive my lack of reading, who do you want to lynch tmr? | ||
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On September 17 2013 23:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point is not what Sno's answer was. The point is it took Sno 30 minutes to answer while before that he had been active in thread (he had 6 posts in last 30 minutes). When he answered, he said "the meeting is now over". There is only one town motivation: Sno had a meeting that started just when Oats asked the question. I am not buying it. This is extreme bullshit. Now we are calling people scum because you didnt like their IRL excuse? Come on Rayn, you are better than that. | ||
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On September 17 2013 23:40 Sn0_Man wrote: I wanted to lynch zealos cuz its MORE FUN. And because I still though BH was survivor. Objectively the wrong play I admit, as I've admitted when I was doing it. Mafia is done for fun tho. Still wanna lynch zealos though I think. Still too lazy to properly read the D1 votes again. When it comes time to consider those things I will, for now I'm waiting for night action resolution to understand more about this game. How are we debating i dont even remember what happened yesterday afternoon. Rayn you are literally the only person on the planet deluded enough to think that not answering somebody's question half a second after they post it makes you scum. If you want I can go play-by-play that shit but what a waste of time. Oats blabbed some shit that wasn't even as interesting as your standard fakeclaims iunno why I'm supposed to just swallow it hook, line and sinker. I think ive done the same thing at least 3 games now. lol. | ||
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On September 18 2013 00:07 Sn0_Man wrote: I think you got lynched day 2 last game after doing nothing for town great play. Glad you are so helpful. What? | ||
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On September 18 2013 12:44 Papa_Smurf wrote: @Panda, Grack, Raynp, Oats This was from an earlier post of mine. I'm not sure if you saw it. Take a look. Zealos - The dude is most likely the SK. OP's vote on him would be weird is zealos is scum. That means that scum OP would want to bus his partner d1 when a townie (blubb) was right with them in votes. Bussing day1 is extremely unnecessary d1 unless there's a major scumslip/scumcatch. Zealos wasn't considered that. Thus, I would think scum would put zealos and blubb up there as the main lynches, thinking they were both town. zealos town. | ||
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On September 18 2013 14:05 VayneAuthority wrote: if they are bad can you show me then? i just wrote a ton of posts on why they are the scummiest to me. you'll have to tell me why its bad to take you seriously. Grack claimed for no reason = he town. Pandain tried to lynch dudes d1. = he town. | ||
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On September 18 2013 22:42 kushm4sta wrote: Also to the people who think i'm scum: no just no. My meta is known for busing. Let me tell you why this is. I find it impossible to make arguments against people I know are townies. That is why I need to bus, because since they are really scum I don't have to make anything up. So a game like this, where I write extensive cases against people, I'm either busing or town. I honestly think that this makes kush town. | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I see no reason why we shouldn't. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Grackaroni what? | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because there is a bigger chance of Grackaroni being scum. Do you usually give town reads to people because they are your scumread and defend your scumread? Then you go on and vote with them on a case that's pushed by another scumread of yours? And your reasoning for all that is "nobody was defending the original wagon".... town do do that. Also scum fakeclaims vet for what reason exactly? To draw out the real vet? | ||
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On September 14 2013 01:38 Oatsmaster wrote: What 4th wagon? Also, I dont see anything but me shouting VOTE OP. Why arent you voting for OP? Second read is Blubb. debears scum. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why the fuck would i be okay with lynching debears? If you can make a decent case i could consider it. Now there are just some quotes from his filter and then people say "lol, scum". Whats with the strong green read then you want to be convinced? | ||
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Why the fuck would i be okay with lynching debears? Explain this then rayn? | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:38 Sn0_Man wrote: Didn't I prove we should be lynching SK today? Actually sn0, explain the difference between SK and scum please. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:44 Sn0_Man wrote: Lynching SK effectively halves the anti-town KP since town is far enough ahead this game (due to 15 player 3 scum setup) that SK will be hitting town as much as possible. Alternatively, we are at 7-1-2 Lynch Scum, 2NKs on town: 5-1-1 MYLO since a mislynch leads to 2-1-1 town can't win Lynch SK, Only 1 NK on town: 6-0-2 not mylo since a mislynch leads to 4-0-2. Objectively better for town to lynch SK over scum. Also was hoping that scum might know who the SK is so we can lynch SK happily in harmony. not that. How you find the SK as opposed to scum. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Thinking debears is not in my top 2 candidates for scum != strong town read.. So 'why the fuck would I be ok lynching X person' will be applicable to anyone other than top 2 candidates for scum? Uh ok. No, I dont believe this. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:44 Pandain wrote: Please reflect on the matter. Give me an honest justification for that fakeclaim/anti fake claim? Distract the thread? Really he would put that much suspicion on himself to try and shit up the thread? Lol what suspicion did he get put under? Absolutely nothing. The fakeclaim was to out the vet IMO, then he unfakeclaims and apologizes. The thing that makes me think he's town is that in his unfakeclaiming post, he posted that he doesnt want to be thought of confirmed town for the claim. Which is an odd mindset for scum. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote: Zealos *cannot* be scum lol. If we are 100% that he is antitown then I agree he is the best lynch because that makes him SK. @Oats how the hell would I know. I've only played with 1 SK before and town got raped because of it (also bastard setup imo but thats neither here nor there). Actually, as far as I'm concerned SKs are practically universally bastard but w/e. I think you misunderstand my question. How do you know we arent lynching bad town as opposed to SK? Like, nobody plays SK the same, so its not like you can use meta or normal scumtells and shit. So how do you find this SK? | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:53 Pandain wrote: He didn't get put any under suspicion because I correctly identified that it is too risky and too bold for a mafia to try and fake claim a vet in order to, as you say, out another vet. A vet is such a small part of the game, only one person versus ~3 other blues and however other many town members. You really think his goal was to out a vet? What if a vet did claim? Then shit, total suspicion on Grack. We would have had a totally different game, and probably would have lynched Grack. Then Grack apologetically unfakeclaims. You dont see the play here? He knows his plan is to fakeclaim vet, then fakeclaim VT. Low risk IMO and possible we think that hes town for doing some retarded shit. | ||
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On September 19 2013 02:54 Sn0_Man wrote: Thats why i don't want to lynch zealos. I just said, I don't know how to isolate the SK. I was hoping others did. Since he is the best lynch. This is incredibly scummy man. 'hey guys kill SK, oh wait i have no clue who he is or how to find him. Welp.' Lets not scumhunt either. | ||
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Because you guys would have bandwagoned(although I would have protested again, knowing how idiotic it was) against Grack for a false fake claim which he would have only un-fakeclaimed after being shown wrong. You guys would have thought he was making stuff up and trying to gain blue status. Im sorry, What? What? So scum know that 1 kp was blocked in some way and decided to claim vet and keep that claim throughout the game. Does this make sense to you? It doesnt make sense to me. Also people like you defend him. So its not High risk. Zealos could be SK, would rather kill scum cause red flips are cool. | ||
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On September 19 2013 03:21 Papa_Smurf wrote: Btw we should not in any way vote Vayne today why? | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fuck you Oats. If i was scum nobody, absolutely nobody in my scumteam claims scum on N1, especially the Godfather with such bullshitting abilities BH has. oh im sorry I insulted your scum abilities. | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Does it seem like BH was "really absent form the thread" on N1? Does it seem like i was? It seems like BH was. He posted like 2-3 pages. | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: So from my first post of the game i pushed my Godfather. When the wagon didn't seem to happen, i looked onto other people. Then, when people start to think about what i said about BH i let go of my mislynch SnB (which is uncharacteristic for me in the first place), defend every other mislynch, and push people to vote for my Godfather for the rest of the day. When a fuckton of townies fuck up and he in fact survives, i call a vigi shot on him so hard at the start of D1 he fakeclaims survivor. I ask him to prove he is helping town, but instead of him doing so (when he still has a slight chance of survival) we come up with a plan that he claims anti-town. Then some people try to lynch debears instead of BH on D2 and i shut down every attempt of them doing so because BH has claimed he is not helping the town. Yeah, makes sense Oats.... whats with the 'we'? maybe he told you to bus him? | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: In fact, if somebody bussed BH it's you Oats. You voted for him when noone was talking about him and he was in no danger of getting lynched because people called SnB/blubb/Zealos/kush scum at that time. You have been calling everyone scum in this game in turns with no real analysis at all. I don't get the townie feeling from you after D1, at all. what happened from the page earlier where apparently im the only one who is trying to figure out the game other than you and kush? Hm? Forgot about that? | ||
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On September 19 2013 23:23 Grackaroni wrote: Oats can you explain your switch on me? You said good reason = scum. bad reason = town. bad fake claim = town. Then Rayn comes up with the reasoning that I fake claimed to draw out a veteran to claim and you buy that? If Koshi counterclaimed me yesterday I could have actually ended up lynched. Well I reread your fakeclaim, and came to the conclusion that it was a good claim that had no reason to be there, even to have #bigplays. No reason shit is normally scum doing shit. | ||
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On September 19 2013 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: In fact, if somebody bussed BH it's you Oats. You voted for him when noone was talking about him and he was in no danger of getting lynched because people called SnB/blubb/Zealos/kush scum at that time. You have been calling everyone scum in this game in turns with no real analysis at all. I don't get the townie feeling from you after D1, at all. I dont see how you can say the above, but then say that I have no chance of getting lynched today. | ||
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On September 20 2013 01:42 Grackaroni wrote: Oats is the best lynch at this point, ever since push on day1 for BH he hasn't given any fleshed out reasoning for anyone being scum. He gave 2 different conclusions on my alignment with the same reasoning (lack of reasoning) and the only thing that had changed during that time was that thread sentiment (Rayn) was in favor of lynching me. I would no longer characterize his play as in your face, now it seems much more passive and shifty. He was also trying to take all the credit for the wagon on BH in his talks with me night one and when people bought that BH was survivor he was against lynching him. BH only got lynched day2 because of WoS' flip. Oats pushing BH Day1 doesn't mean he has to be town. There is no rule that scum cannot be afk for deadlines and there was no way he expected BH to be lynched. He was a replacement, nobody was going to listen to him and he could have voted basically anyone he wanted to. He could have pushed BH not expecting for BH to have to vote switch and gather up town cred later if BH flipped in a later round. Oats is our best chance at scum today. ##Vote: Oatsmaster Im sorry what? I hard defended BH day 2. Also Im totally the reason the wagon almost succeeded. Dont fool yourself. What I meant by no reason claim, is that there is literally no reason to claim. Thats scummy. If you have a scum read for no reason, thats townie. See the difference in Reasons? Of course not, because you are scum. | ||
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IS THAT VAYNE IS SCUM. And Grack is town. Wheeeee. Vayne has been a lot less egoistical than normal. And he has been a lot less involved than normal other than shouting LYNCH PANDAIN AND GRACK GUYS. Also cause I think kush is town and therefore wrong, that means that Vayne is trying to piggyback kush's push and other dudes pushes and look active while being totally fucking useless. Lynch this dude. Will flip red or black. 100%. | ||
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Ok so Rayn is 100% sk. Scum, roleblock Rayn if you want to stop a night kill. Whos scum though. Hmm.. | ||
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On September 20 2013 21:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Oats, why do you not have anything to say? I might get called scum for having a bad excuse for my absence. | ||
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On September 20 2013 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: t_T bad.. so bad.. yeah thats exactly what you did to sn0 dude. Not cool man, not cool. | ||
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On September 20 2013 23:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it's not. If i am SK who is mafia? pandain and one of sn0man and grack. | ||
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On September 20 2013 23:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would Sno_man vote for his scumbuddy instead of non-scum kush? cause it didnt matter? | ||
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On September 20 2013 23:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also do you think scum are stupid enough to not kill debears? Pandain as scum does not kill the most experienced player besides him? Papa smurf did say something about not being debears. Also Papa smurf was a possible mislynch at the start of day 2 anyway. so much fucking speculation rayn. Too much. | ||
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On September 20 2013 23:18 Grackaroni wrote: @Oats: You said Vayne was 100% Mafia, how does anything that happened last night change that? Also I'm getting a bad vibe from Rayn, can you explain how SK and mafia know each other? What is that all about? nothing really. | ||
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Which means Pandain is scum. So 1 MORE scum. VA. K Game solved. Everyone can go home now. I won. | ||
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On September 21 2013 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oatsmaster, Grackaroni and Sno_man: Explain to me how i win as Serial Killer by lynching town!kush over mafia!Pandain from the situation D3? Assume debears is town and telling the truth. Or if you think he is not telling the truht, explain why and then how. Because then mafia Pandain flipping means you are not town. Then we lynch you. Ezpz. | ||
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On September 21 2013 00:01 Sn0_Man wrote: Realistically, you are on the list bro. Its not like your scumhunting has been useful. Ur like 1 tier below rayn/dibbers for SK likelihood. I would play SK exactly like town. So it would like this game. Huh. | ||
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On September 21 2013 00:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: NO IT DOESN'T! IT MEANS I AM ANTI TOWN OR DEBEARS IS LYING! so not town = anti town right? Yeah and debears has 0 reason to lie, which means his check is good. Ezpz. | ||
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On September 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: So what's my plan in winning now as SK? kill scum, lynch town, kill scum, lynch town, win the game. | ||
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On September 21 2013 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah, and i get lynched at the next day if i am roleblocked? Im like totally confused. ~~~ | ||
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What??? I dont see what convinced you that Im the scum rather than sno or grack or whatever. | ||
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On September 21 2013 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because Snoman is not scum. That leaves only you and Grack, and i think Grack is town. What makes me SK? ah ok. Well, over d1 and d2, at the end, your vote has been on EVERYONE. Like literally everyone in the game at one point in time. Also I think everyone else other than You/VA/Pandain is town, and you have mentioned earlier that you bussing BH is stupid. I agree. So yeah. You SK. The game is over. I like how you revert to shouting OATS IS ANTI TOWN GUYS FOR NO FUCKING REASON EVEN THOUGH I CALLED HIM ONE OF THE TOP 3 TOWNIES IN D2. haha. Im gonna sleep, will be back in like 20 hours or so. Expect to see rayn either RB or dead and only 1 nk. | ||
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The simplest explanation to me is that the SK shot went to Debears and that Rayn healed him, otherwise where has the missing SK shot gone. I think it's very unlikely that SK also shot Umasi because SK should be aiming for Mafia to balance out the game. I trust Debears claim enough to rest the fate of the game on him being Parity Cop. He had the breadcrumbs to back it up and has been trying to solve the game. Claiming cop is too risky of a move for a mafia player to make in a game with a Godfather and if he was counter claimed he would be dead. Gigantic contradiction. | ||
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On September 21 2013 23:53 Grackaroni wrote: By the only confirmed town you mean Debears or Umasi? i mean debears. | ||
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On September 22 2013 00:09 Grackaroni wrote: Not everyone considered Debears confirmed town. BUT YOU JUST CALLED HIM CONFIRMED TOWN. | ||
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On September 22 2013 00:36 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah so I'm not SK. SK is one of the people who didn't think Debears was town. You make no sense and you should feel bad. | ||
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On September 22 2013 00:39 Grackaroni wrote: You still haven't answered how Rayn could still be SK in light of the claim + kills Rayn got shot. How is this hard to understand? Also if rayn is town, we lynch you. So you should lynch rayn. | ||
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On September 22 2013 01:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: So i fakeclaimed before knowing i was shot? Makes sense how? it doesnt matter, as long as there was 1 nk, you could claim that your protect worked. | ||
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Rayn is acting totally retarded the past like 2-3 days. Why as town would he not try and convince people to win the game? Also, where the fuck is sn0? | ||
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On September 22 2013 08:42 Papa_Smurf wrote: I've already reasoned why Raynp isn't SK. Scum would have rbed him and killed me, because then Pandain would be outed if mafia killed Raynp. The last thing mafia would want right now is raynp shooting the unknown mafia, so they wouldn't leave a SK Raynp unroleblocked. Raynp, as SK, would not have withheld his shot last night, seeing as he needs to find and kill the other mafia so he can win. Also, if Raynp, as sk, lynched another town today he would essentially lose (3-2-1 before nks, 2-2-0 or 1-2-1 or 2-1-0 or 1-1-1). Only one of those scenarios are winnable for a SK at this point if the SK does not lynch scum). Scum dont know if rayn is the SK. The thing for me is, both those shots are horrible for sk, Umasi or you. So Im left with the conclusion that SK didnt shoot, because come on man, thats like the 2 least likely to be scum. | ||
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On September 22 2013 21:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: WHo is scum and doesn't know if i am SK or not? What the fuck are you talking about? Im apparently the only one who thinks you are the SK so i guess everyone else is possible scum that doesnt know that you are the sk. What do you think about the SK shot? | ||
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On September 22 2013 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am talking about a scumteam that would not know i am SK as you are saying. Who fits into that profile? I don't give a shit who shot Umasi and whose shot got blocked. There is no way anyone else is scum than you/Vayne. That's where i am at. So whos sk? | ||
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On September 22 2013 21:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am talking about a scumteam that would not know i am SK as you are saying. Who fits into that profile? I don't give a shit who shot Umasi and whose shot got blocked. There is no way anyone else is scum than you/Vayne. That's where i am at. Everyone fits that profile except ME. If I were scum, why dont I just shoot you and call FRAMER on pandain assuming hes scum. Or try to lynch him assuming hes town. | ||
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On September 22 2013 21:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why is it only the scum guys who suddenly bring a possible framer up? :D oh man maybe its cause there isnt a framer and therefore we are lying. Or maybe there is a framer and one of you got framed. Or maybe, its just that we are better than you. | ||
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On September 22 2013 21:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you are bad and didn't know Sno is SK. You can't shoot me because that proves Pandain & debears as town. IF SK shoots town aswell and you lynched the SK you win. Dude. you make 0 sense. I shoot you and if you flip town, it only proves that you flipped town and that debears and Pandain are likely town. But its not like we are gonna lynch debears or Pandain today anyway. So again I ask, if Im scum, why dont I shoot you? | ||
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On September 22 2013 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Btw Oats you made a mistake. Your chance was to call debears SK as fakeclaiming and therefore one of me and Pandain is scum and the scum one of us blocked debears and therefore there is no shot. The way you are trying to bullshit atm is bad. So debears, as SK fakeclaims something he doesnt even know is true. What the fuck rayn. | ||
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On September 22 2013 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you are calling me SK.. :D So i plan to lynch you? Why do I plan to lynch the most active player in the game as opposed to something easier like grack or Vayne or sn0 dude? come on man. | ||
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On September 22 2013 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because Grack is town and you can't lynch him. Sno is SK and if you lynch him you lose. Vayne is your scumbuddy and if you lynch him you lose. Why do i lose if I lynch the SK? | ||
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On September 22 2013 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: That proves me/Pandain/debears as town.. duh.. WHY? | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: It does say a lot about our alignments. It says we are both town or both scum. And you are trying to sell that i am SK now, therefore you think we are not scum together. why does sn0 flipping SK say that? | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: On this day phase you have contradicted yourself so much i don't care to respond to you. Im never playing with you again. | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: You think debears is town. You think i am SK. In case Sno flips SK there is no chance for you that me & Pandain are scum, or that debears & Pandain are scum, or that me & debears are scum. The only possible solution for you -- if town -- in that case is that Vayne & Grackaroni are scum. You do not bring that up at any point. That's why you are talking out of your ass. not true. I am like ???????????. | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why are you calling (1) me SK and not scum and (2) debears town? If i can't be scum and debears can't be scum there is no way Pandain is scum. Because of what? You could be sk and pandain could be scum. | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: We are talking about a situation where Sno_man flips SK remember? no? So explain slowly, how sn0man flipping SK makes you and pandain 100% town? Do you not think there is a framer? | ||
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On September 23 2013 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think there is no framer. I think debears is obviously town. Therefore Pandain is town. I don't even need anyone to flip SK to think that. why dont you think theres a framer? | ||
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On September 23 2013 02:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am kinda confused what you are trying to do here Oats? You can't convince me to lynch debears/Pandain. If you want to lynch someone else you need to domething else to convince me, or you need to convince others to lynch into me/Pandain/debears if that's where you are heading at. Why did you withhold your shot rayn? | ||
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On September 23 2013 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats you know Vayne can't be SK. Also you very well know i don't think there is a framer. So no. So whos SK then? | ||
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So there is 1 more town. Is it Grack or Vayne? Or is there a framer? Actually I dont recall seeing why you didnt think there was a framer. Please elaborate on that. | ||
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On September 24 2013 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to say anything before the night action resolving period. Whatever i say will not help the town at this point. except for the fact that I can talk for 2 hours now with you and hammer out my reads and win the game. | ||
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On September 24 2013 00:15 VayneAuthority wrote: nah oats im not scum, ive been saying for a while now that pandain/grack are the last 2 scum. its pretty obvious to me but i gave up at this point since i have no credit apparently well you're not scum to you. So mainly is it the weird vote switch off OP for Grack and Pandain's end of day 1 shennanies? | ||
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On September 24 2013 00:40 VayneAuthority wrote: thats just a minor point but yea. In a bigger game I wouldnt see it as a big deal, but when they only have 3 scum of course they are going to panic to save their godfather and make mistakes. I wrote a bunch of other stuff too but too lazy to put it all down again since we lost anyway. for the end game cred man. DO IT. | ||
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On September 24 2013 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Grackaroni or you. I dunno because you all seem to be dumb enough to not understand that's the only scenario where town can win this game. well there are 3 town and possibly 2 scum and sk. So if we lynch scum today, then the sk and scum shoot each other, we can still win. | ||
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On September 24 2013 20:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol Oats. its possible | ||
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On September 24 2013 22:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know wtf is wrong with you Oats in this game. Go ahead and lose the game then if you are town. I honestly don't give a fuck anymore. So if I vote to lynch you, how mad will you be? | ||
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On September 24 2013 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going to be mad. I just will not trust in your ability to make good decision for now on. And i probably am forced to vote for you because if you are town scum will hammer me and we lose, so... so if im town, and you vote for me, then you lost the game for town. Good Job Rayn. | ||
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On September 25 2013 23:39 Grackaroni wrote: It kind of makes me more comfortable voting for Vayne lol. Is there some specific reasoning besides gut reads that changed your mind? well Pandain pretty much didnt play after day 1. Rayn is being really fucking weird and I think Vayne might be town. So yeah. | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:26 Grackaroni wrote: you think I don't believe you aren't just as hopeless if you are town. Since when is asking questions scummy. If I'm not in here prodding discussion the thread is dead silent. If I was on a team with Vayne (or Oats for that matter) then he wouldn't have sheeped your reasoning on me being scum based on my vote because it was going to kill me if Pandain hadn't come in and stopped the wagon. If you had any idea of my Meta at all you would see that I don't have the balls to argue back and forth with people in the manner that I've done this game as scum and I certainly wouldn't claim a role in order to flush out the non-existant SK or risk getting counter-claimed for no benefit. I don't like being in LYLO. It's stressful that's why I try to get myself killed off. I am going to do everything I can to make sure that I am not endgamed for the second game in a row. ok so this makes me think you are town. Which means that either theres a framer or Rayn and Pandain are scum, or one of them is scum and the other got framed. Pandain is currently my choice, cause he hasnt done anything like the end of day 1 now and he has been suspiciously absent. | ||
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Does he look like scum trying to win by mislynching? I dont think so at this point. Lylo so HARD. | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:47 Grackaroni wrote: He looks like scum who knows he's going to be lynched and doesn't care. really? | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:56 VayneAuthority wrote: not possible. its either you/grack or rayn/panda. explain not possible? Also you couldve known that Koshi was blue and rbed him if he was doc or Jack or something. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can lynch Oats too because he is too dumb to be town. cool. I guess you like being wrong a lot. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well Oats dropped a vote on mafia and fucked off. You dropped a vote on townie and fucked off. That's my problem in you vs Oats.. Both of you have done nothing that make me think you are town after D1.. Ive been right. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah because after D1 you have made zero sense. First you don't want to lynch BH. Then you call every single player in the game scum in turns with nothing to support your arguments. Ive had reasons, you just didnt like them or whatever. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT PANDAIN AND VAYNE CAN'T BE SCUM TOGETHER! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! no? | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm starting to warm up to Oats lynch just because of pure stupidity. you dont have to keep repeating yourself. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you can't understand this simple fact i am going to lynch you. Vayne is only scum if scum have a vigilante, there is no SK, and scum roleblocked & hit Koshi. Therefore, to Vayne to be scum there cannot be a framer. Therefore me and Pandain are same alignment. Therefore Pandain and Vayne can't be scum because i had to be scum too and the game is going on so it's impossible. Fuck, why do i have to explain everything to everyone like they were babies... you couldve said too many power roles for there to be Vigi+rb+gf+framer. That works too. Instead you have to act like a dick to prove your superiority. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am frustrated because i have explained this at least 10 times in this game.. I'll look at it. If Pandain comes back i am willing to discuss Oats lynch. Ok So I think Grack is town. And therefore Vayne must be town. And therefore Rayn is scum.. GG NO RE. Ok vayne and Grack, vote for Rayn and lets win the game. | ||
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Vayne, who thinks you are town? ME!. Who wants to mislynch people? SCUM. Therefore Im not scum. Or Im scum with you. Right? So vote for rayn. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:53 VayneAuthority wrote: Voting for rayn makes me scum unless really bastard hosting. 2 shot vig is only possible with a doctor, rayn is not scum. So that means you are scum. YOU SEE THE PROBLEM I HAVE HERE? One way, mechanics says that its unlikely. Another way, my reads say that you and Grack arent scum. Those are the 2 possible scumteams. Vayne/Grack Rayn/Pandain. So which one should I vote for Vayne? | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because you can't. If Vayne proves he is more townie than you/Grack you lose. You are not doing well atm and you are using stupid reasoning for you being town and me being scum. Make a decent case if you want me lynched. eh what? So I as scum, abandon easy wagon and go on the hardest person ever ever to lynch FOR WHAT REASON? I gain no benefit. Nothing. 0. NOTHING. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:59 VayneAuthority wrote: the setup wouldn't make any sense if rayn was scum and I don't see him making that big case on his partner day 1. you guys are actually mirror images in a way rayn = voted for OP and provided reasoning oats = voted for OP, little to no reasoning pandain = resisted OP lynch, provided reasoning grack = resisted OP lynch, providing little to no reasoning. see the problem here? But the only 2 scumteams above are possible. And one of them includes you. That isnt right, right? So that means that Rayn/PAndain is scum, no matter how unlikely it seems. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:59 Pandain wrote: My computer died. I would love to lynch oats. I agree he is not contributing and content to let lurk. What? | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:04 VayneAuthority wrote: what you said is fact, if you are town then those are the 2 scumteams available to you. The problem I have is I know I'm town and you/grack look a lot worse to me than rayn and pandain looks the worst with his lurking and saying others are lurking. I want him to post his opinions Ahaha. But if Im scum, I would just continue voting for you and sleep right? And act more normal because I already know what I need to do to win the game. You see, I must be town because I dont want to kill you. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:06 Pandain wrote: Yeah I'm lurking but it's because I'm in a more active game. Oats is not. If he was town, I would assume he would want to finish this. BEST EXCUSE EVER GUYS. fuck its sooo bad. And really insulting to the players of this game. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats and Vayne, why do you need to get a read on Pandain to lynch scum? I dont. I dunno why Vayne does. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:10 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't agree since as you just saw the vote can change while you go to sleep. but yes its annoying since it pretty much looks like this rayn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oats > grack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pandain so who is the scum, the super townie medic and useless lurker or the two people in the middle? From my perspective this setup makes more sense with the medic. If you and me are both town I will be pretty pissed. No, think of it like if you are in the position im in, but scum. So you are scum. So Oats has 4 votes on him, including yours. You know Oats is town. Instead, you decide to try and yolo lynch the town medic. It sounds really bad right? Yeah. Thats why Im town. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah but you have never tried to lynch me. :D What? My vote is on you? WHat? | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:14 VayneAuthority wrote: Im not really following, how is lynching the town medic good? for me to consider voting rayn you would have to have like a really glaring reason/case like when I showed the hole in his logic with the vig thing. if you can find him lying about something really important I would believe you more. Doesn't look like we're going to get any pandain contribution which is annoying. If Im scum, I know that Rayn isnt lying about being town medic. So I try and lynch the towniest guy in the thread as scum for what fucking reason? Instead of one of the scummiest?? So once you know that me and you are town, then the scumteam must be Rayn and Pandain. You dont need to know that Rayn is scum, you just need to know that whenever you take out the impossible, whatever improbable that remains must be the answer. RAYN IS SCUM! | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah Oats, you are trying to lynch the towniest guy in thread. :D You are scum. That makes me NOT SCUM. Because Im not fucking horrible at the game as scum. I know how to play lylo. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:20 VayneAuthority wrote: but then you are assuming that im a complete idiot oats, which is true sometimes, but do you know how dumb I would look to lose game for town because I kill our medic? Just because its "stupid" or "impossible" play doesn't make it town. Im not assuming you are a complete idiot. What is going on here? Look, either you vote for me or vote for rayn. I already outlined the reasons that I cant ever be scum. So means that you should vote for Rayn. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: You should be telling why i am scum and not why you are town, because you can't possibly give reasons why you are town over me. And you can also not say by process of elimination because if you do i will hammer you to the ground. So why am i scum? I dont need to convince you. I can say by Process of elimination. Its by Process of elimination. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:30 VayneAuthority wrote: you need to give some reasoning though of like some big mistake rayn made or something. I can't just vote for him because you say so? that is playing to lose You can vote for him because you think Im townier than Rayn, or that I am doing shit only townies do. ITS FUCKING LYLO. THERE DOESNT NEED TO BE A CASE. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol So why is vayne more town than i am? Or Grackaroni? why do you care? Grack is super townie man. SO that means you are scum. Hahahahaha | ||
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Decide. Is Rayn or Oats town. And vote for which ever one you dont think is town. | ||
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I can lynch Pandain too. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Funny because i can probably take at least 10 quotes from your filter where you call him scum. Funny, because that doesnt mean shit and you know it. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you admit that you have been saying nothing all game? I admit that my reads change. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you admit that you have been saying nothing all game? Actually if your reads dont, you are probably scum. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote: yea I would lynch pandain right now in a heartbeat if he wasn't attached to rayn, so he's lucky for that cuz he hasn't done shit since day 1. you have to prove to me somehow that there is only a parity cop/mason/veteran vs roleblock/godfather/vig...that doesnt make sense to me Setup is Setup. I cant prove what I dont know. What I do probably know, is that I think Grack is town, and therefore Rayn and Pandain is scum. ITs that simple. Everything revolves around my read on Grack. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote: and I think it is more likely that you and grack are scum together so you can see why your read on grack is meaningless to me? you need to show me why rayn is scum, not why your connective partner is town. Whats with this 'likely' 'unlikely' shit. Dont you have reads based on posts? Which one do you think is townier or scummier based on posts, not on blue roles or any other setup shit. PLEASE VAYNE. | ||
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oh no, grack mustve posted something that changed my mind. OH WAIT HE DID. YEAH! | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey, i have a suggestion. You guys are clearly not scum together. Let's lynch Grackaroni? hahahahahhaha | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: You should probably try it because if you are town you'll lynch scum and if you don't try it you get lynched. did you not read my spiel thats been going on for 3 pages? The only scum are you and pandain. END OF STORY. | ||
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Im sleeping. Vayne, think about this. If you think that one of the players in the game is way more scummy than the rest of the players, it means that his partner is scum. No matter what right? So please. Think about it, If you think pandain is super scum, then Rayn MUST BE SCUM RIGHT? So vote for Rayn. LAST PLEA. PLEASE VAYNE. LETS WIN!. PKEASEE | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well i can't help you then. That means you get lynced. oh Im so sorry you couldnt help me even though my vote is on you. I hope everyone Realises that we lynch Scum today or lose. And grack is the least likely to be scum. So dont do that stupid shit. Lynch Rayn. Thats much less stupid. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats. I can promise you i am town. If you want to win this game vote for Grackaroni. Grack is not scummmmmm | ||
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But I got it first., And I explained it better. Therefore Im town. Rayn is trying any means to not lynch his scumteam. Think about it Vayne. At the start of the cycle, he wanted to lynch you. Then he wanted to lynch me. Now he wants to lynch Grack. All to find someone that the last townie would sheep. Cause scum needs 1 townie to vote with him. That makes Rayn scum. I called everyone scum except me. That means Im town. | ||
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Man I said it like 10 times. | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not just trying to vote for anyone at this point. It's pretty clear that you and Oats are not scum together. That makes Grackaroni scum to me. lol good try rayn. You lose. TOWN WINS!!!!! | ||
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On September 26 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oats are you seriously unable to see the town!motivation of my actions this phase? Come on.. you are not this bad. no im not able to see the town!motivation of your actions. Im gone. Vayne make the right call bby.  | ||
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Games just feel different then they were a while ago, I dunno why .Grack played really well, but I shouldve picked up that Vayne was being way too careful with his vote and shit at the end of Lylo. He wouldnt have done that as town, asking for a case and all that. | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah and i know why we lost. Because Oats was thinking "i don't actually give a fuck if rayn is scum or not but i am going to vote for him because i don't wanna let him win if he happens to be scum". That's 100% not true. | ||
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On September 26 2013 12:47 debears wrote: You wanna help me do the thug life analysis? not really lol. Maybe Ill try something different for that game. | ||
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You did fine debears. Maybe its cause you guys kept pushing my townreads? Haha. | ||
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