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Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 16:43 GMT
#1941
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 15 2013 16:44 GMT
#1942
rofl ps so mad now.

On September 16 2013 01:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
why didnt kush use my two last town games for his meta case?


i used the latest towngame that was on your profile that's why.

but yeah this is what it looks like when a scum panics.
about to defend my metacase hold on
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 16:46 GMT
#1943
On September 16 2013 01:44 kushm4sta wrote:
rofl ps so mad now.

Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
why didnt kush use my two last town games for his meta case?


i used the latest towngame that was on your profile that's why.

but yeah this is what it looks like when a scum panics.
about to defend my metacase hold on


k I'll wait for this. How long is this gonna take, I'm gonna chill out for while and watch some foosball (go chiefs!!)
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 16:50 GMT
#1944
btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game.

What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game
What games haven't

Then do the percentages. I'd love to know
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 16:52 GMT
#1945
reading through I guess a lot of people are suspicious of my blubbdavid vote now that he showed up town, which is convenient in hindsight. Didn't stop you guys from following me eh? lol

I don't know what's going on now with this kush/koshi hard buddying thing but I doubt they would do that as scum so im probably wrong somewhere

rayn still concerns me since he was just lecturing me about not wanting to vote for the survivor but now he goes ahead and votes OP without a second thought. really weird and inconsistent.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 16:55 GMT
#1946
On September 16 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game.

What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game
What games haven't

Then do the percentages. I'd love to know


golden sun is a game with a lot of lone wolves and rouges of that nature. It fits the game and his role PM looked very convincing. Idk why you would ever ask the hosts for a survivor role PM to fake when that role is usually lynched on sight by every town.

I don't see him flipping scum.
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 16:58 GMT
#1947
also im trying to wrap my head around this night kill, WoS never really had any reads of his own looking through his filter. The last thing he says is i want to policy lynch kush but that's stupid.

Don't really know what's going on in this game tbh
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 15 2013 16:59 GMT
#1948
On September 16 2013 01:32 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:26 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum.
I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm..


and when was this?

lol


are u talking about SnB's case?

Cuz you thought it was accurate

Yeah it is accurate. And you doged the question about the fact in the case that is not accurate and you very well know it.


Lol. Therefore the meta case itself was not misrepresentative. It was his use of the meta case that was.

I showed that kush's actual meta case was misrepresentative, not just his use of it.

No, you are wrong. SnB expecially said "as town rayn pushes important matters".
Why don't you look at my last three town games (not Aperture - because i did not have time to play properly so i didn't do much anything), and tell me straight to my face this comment of SnB's is accurate. I even know myself he is worng, the matters i have pushed, especially on D1's, were not important. How does SnB know what i have pushed this game was not important? At that point i had ONLY pushed a guy who is either third party or scum and things regarding him, that was not important, let's say compared to people who pushed blubbers for no fucking reason? There was never a case on blubbers, not a single case, people just voted for him because they were afraid of pushing their own cases or they were sheeps.
table for two on a tv tray
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 17:01 GMT
#1949
On September 16 2013 01:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game.

What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game
What games haven't

Then do the percentages. I'd love to know


golden sun is a game with a lot of lone wolves and rouges of that nature. It fits the game and his role PM looked very convincing. Idk why you would ever ask the hosts for a survivor role PM to fake when that role is usually lynched on sight by every town.

I don't see him flipping scum.


what of "the captain"

I could only find one reference of someone being a captain of the ship. Nowhere does it say he was called "the captain"

riggs was presumably born and raised in Champa. In his early life he is described as formerly being a real brat, but in the present age he has become a swarthy middle-aged man who was eventually recognized as the greatest of Champa's sailors, so he was subsequently named the captain of the sailors of Champa. He is also described as having "never been sick a day of his life." While he is recognized as tough and boasts of it, Briggs is also very insecure around those even more powerful than himself, instinctively running away from someone who defeats him in battle.

I couldn't find karagol anywhere in the wiki entry, which was the sea referenced that "the captain" sailed in.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 15 2013 17:04 GMT
#1950
On September 16 2013 02:01 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game.

What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game
What games haven't

Then do the percentages. I'd love to know


golden sun is a game with a lot of lone wolves and rouges of that nature. It fits the game and his role PM looked very convincing. Idk why you would ever ask the hosts for a survivor role PM to fake when that role is usually lynched on sight by every town.

I don't see him flipping scum.


what of "the captain"

I could only find one reference of someone being a captain of the ship. Nowhere does it say he was called "the captain"

riggs was presumably born and raised in Champa. In his early life he is described as formerly being a real brat, but in the present age he has become a swarthy middle-aged man who was eventually recognized as the greatest of Champa's sailors, so he was subsequently named the captain of the sailors of Champa. He is also described as having "never been sick a day of his life." While he is recognized as tough and boasts of it, Briggs is also very insecure around those even more powerful than himself, instinctively running away from someone who defeats him in battle.

I couldn't find karagol anywhere in the wiki entry, which was the sea referenced that "the captain" sailed in.


see bolded. does that not scream survivor to you? also how would he fake such a long role PM in such short time, he obviously got it from the hosts so the name of the character is not in question, it's if he is actually telling the truth or not.
I come in for the scraps
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 17:04 GMT
#1951
On September 16 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:32 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:26 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum.
I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm..


and when was this?

lol


are u talking about SnB's case?

Cuz you thought it was accurate

Yeah it is accurate. And you doged the question about the fact in the case that is not accurate and you very well know it.


Lol. Therefore the meta case itself was not misrepresentative. It was his use of the meta case that was.

I showed that kush's actual meta case was misrepresentative, not just his use of it.

No, you are wrong. SnB expecially said "as town rayn pushes important matters".
Why don't you look at my last three town games (not Aperture - because i did not have time to play properly so i didn't do much anything), and tell me straight to my face this comment of SnB's is accurate. I even know myself he is worng, the matters i have pushed, especially on D1's, were not important. How does SnB know what i have pushed this game was not important? At that point i had ONLY pushed a guy who is either third party or scum and things regarding him, that was not important, let's say compared to people who pushed blubbers for no fucking reason? There was never a case on blubbers, not a single case, people just voted for him because they were afraid of pushing their own cases or they were sheeps.




On September 13 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The post looks fucking good in filter because it describes my meta pretty well. It sounds good.
However, what's wrong in that post is:
1) it is not a read on me, it says "rayn is scum or is not", what's the point of that post?
2) the timing, people (you, sno, Koshi, etc) were discussing lynching me (serious or not). He pops in with a comment that says "yeah, rayn is hard to read, this stuff is odd", gives no definite stance on me, gives no real read on me. I know this shit. If i was a bad mafia player and got lynched today SnB would be the influence behind the lynch and nobody would ever be able to track that lynch back to him. I know this shit, that's what i do as scum. It's sneaky as fuck.
3) No explanation when asked, hit-and-run post, people forget those if it gains no momentum.


How do you now find it an inaccurate meta read, when you said it was fucking accurate earlier
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
September 15 2013 17:05 GMT
#1952
On September 15 2013 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to feel so stupid if BH is actually a 2nd survivor lol.

Nope. You would feel stupid if you don't lynch BH and he ends up being scum.
Then you can feel stupid.

@koshi why switch off BH now. Kush and oats i could see switching but this surprises me.

BH is absolutely the correct lynch for he day. Why risk hitting town when we can hit a confirmed anti-town player? BH's breadcrumb wasn't good and the chances of 2 survivors is very low.

Also Oats, I don't agree with your characterization of BH's scum play. From what I remember BH as scum is unable to keep up the activity he has as town and has a hard time faking the aggression as well.
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 15 2013 17:07 GMT
#1953
On September 16 2013 02:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 08:04 Koshi wrote:
On September 15 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to feel so stupid if BH is actually a 2nd survivor lol.

Nope. You would feel stupid if you don't lynch BH and he ends up being scum.
Then you can feel stupid.

@koshi why switch off BH now. Kush and oats i could see switching but this surprises me.

BH is absolutely the correct lynch for he day. Why risk hitting town when we can hit a confirmed anti-town player? BH's breadcrumb wasn't good and the chances of 2 survivors is very low.

Also Oats, I don't agree with your characterization of BH's scum play. From what I remember BH as scum is unable to keep up the activity he has as town and has a hard time faking the aggression as well.


Grack awesome.

What do you think of kush's meta case on me, the sudden push on me, and my case on koshi gogogogogo.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 17:10 GMT
#1954
On September 16 2013 02:05 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 08:04 Koshi wrote:
On September 15 2013 08:03 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm going to feel so stupid if BH is actually a 2nd survivor lol.

Nope. You would feel stupid if you don't lynch BH and he ends up being scum.
Then you can feel stupid.

@koshi why switch off BH now. Kush and oats i could see switching but this surprises me.

BH is absolutely the correct lynch for he day. Why risk hitting town when we can hit a confirmed anti-town player? BH's breadcrumb wasn't good and the chances of 2 survivors is very low.

Also Oats, I don't agree with your characterization of BH's scum play. From what I remember BH as scum is unable to keep up the activity he has as town and has a hard time faking the aggression as well.

I ll tell you N2 if you remind me of this question.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 15 2013 17:10 GMT
#1955
On September 16 2013 02:04 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2013 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:32 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:26 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:22 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 16 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I like the wortd misrepresentive meta-case and how that makes kush scum.
I remember someone thinking the opposite on last time when there was a misrepresentive meta-case. hmm..


and when was this?

lol


are u talking about SnB's case?

Cuz you thought it was accurate

Yeah it is accurate. And you doged the question about the fact in the case that is not accurate and you very well know it.


Lol. Therefore the meta case itself was not misrepresentative. It was his use of the meta case that was.

I showed that kush's actual meta case was misrepresentative, not just his use of it.

No, you are wrong. SnB expecially said "as town rayn pushes important matters".
Why don't you look at my last three town games (not Aperture - because i did not have time to play properly so i didn't do much anything), and tell me straight to my face this comment of SnB's is accurate. I even know myself he is worng, the matters i have pushed, especially on D1's, were not important. How does SnB know what i have pushed this game was not important? At that point i had ONLY pushed a guy who is either third party or scum and things regarding him, that was not important, let's say compared to people who pushed blubbers for no fucking reason? There was never a case on blubbers, not a single case, people just voted for him because they were afraid of pushing their own cases or they were sheeps.




Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The post looks fucking good in filter because it describes my meta pretty well. It sounds good.
However, what's wrong in that post is:
1) it is not a read on me, it says "rayn is scum or is not", what's the point of that post?
2) the timing, people (you, sno, Koshi, etc) were discussing lynching me (serious or not). He pops in with a comment that says "yeah, rayn is hard to read, this stuff is odd", gives no definite stance on me, gives no real read on me. I know this shit. If i was a bad mafia player and got lynched today SnB would be the influence behind the lynch and nobody would ever be able to track that lynch back to him. I know this shit, that's what i do as scum. It's sneaky as fuck.
3) No explanation when asked, hit-and-run post, people forget those if it gains no momentum.


How do you now find it an inaccurate meta read, when you said it was fucking accurate earlier

Because there are only slight differences in my scum/town play, and the conclusion "rayn is hard to read" is a reasonable conclusion. I didn't read that post with full concentration at that time. I only noticed something is fucking off in that post and only later analyzed it better.

Why are you again dodging answering me and comign up with something entirely different? Can you just fucking answer my post and not flip-flop around it?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 17:11 GMT
#1956
On September 16 2013 01:50 Papa_Smurf wrote:
btw koshi, since you are so keen on the fact of having two 3p in this game.

What games have ever had two 3p in a 15 player game
What games haven't

Then do the percentages. I'd love to know

WoS was killed by SK or by vigi.

I agree. 2 survivors is close to impossible.
I had a good night of sleep.
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 15 2013 17:11 GMT
#1957
As scum you tell people how to play like with general newbie tips for how to play mafia. In your example, you were explaining why someone's case was bad / your thought process. It was not a superficial tip like you do in your scumgames.

Here is another example:
On September 14 2013 10:12 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Stop wifoming over posting a role pm

Do post analysis over actual play

This is completely different than the type of lecturing you did in that town game.

~~~~

Regarding your emotionality,
in your town examples of you being emotional, it's not really that emotional. You are simple explaining yourself and using capitalization for emphasis.

You have a completely different attitude as town. You are calm, methodical, logical.
As scum you are aggressive, blunt, and mean. You look for superficial scumtells and latch onto them without analyzing deeper.
On September 14 2013 09:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
So let me get this straight

Raynp wants me to explain my read on him right away
Raynp wants BH to post ever read he has right away
Raynp won't post actual analysis on kush's play
Raynp thought we should lynch oats (a replacement) over kush

Wow

Can
He
Be
This
Bad
As
Town


~~~~

You try to discount me because I've provided only two examples. I only did two in my original thread because I am lazy and tired and shit (awake all night). I have provided two more in this post. There are more still!

~~~~

Add to that the fact that you are literally freaking out right now. Your posting rate has jumped like crazy, like your heart rate if you had a gun to your head. You put crap tons of effort into this defense. Quoting past games and shit. If only you put a fraction of that effort into scum hunting, maybe I might believe you are town.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 15 2013 17:11 GMT
#1958
On the other hand debears is right and we are not lynching him, we are lynching BH who has failed to deliver.
table for two on a tv tray
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 15 2013 17:14 GMT
#1959
@GRACK what is your last scumgame please
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 15 2013 17:15 GMT
#1960
rayn why do you think WoS was killed by scummers?
I had a good night of sleep.
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