EPTWhat do you think about the post i wrote about N1 reactions to BH's claim?
Ignore kush talking about you being SK, what do you make of the argument between me and him?
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What do you think about the post i wrote about N1 reactions to BH's claim? Ignore kush talking about you being SK, what do you make of the argument between me and him? | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:08 Oatsmaster wrote: I honestly think that this makes kush town. I actually think you are right. | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:12 Papa_Smurf wrote: Raynp a couple things: Assuming that the "good" (I think experienced is a better word since good is game by game) are not on the same side is a very dangerous line to walk. It may be the case this game, but not every game. also, assuming that the sk is one of the more experienced is 3p is wromg. Once you get into vet games the skill differencr isnt that great overall. Yeah you are right. I was trying to put myself into scum shoes on D1. I would never ever let D1 end + N1 happen as it did. Actually kush has some good points against Pandain & Grack. There are some seriously weird stuff they did on D1 end and on N1. I can even explain Grack's fakeclaim from mafia!pov but for this to hold water Vayne has to be scum. How about Vayne/Grack for scum, Pandain as SK? | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:14 Papa_Smurf wrote: Kush has been shitting up the thread, especially since n2. Umasi and I have talked about it, hence umasi switching to kush ill keep saying this: kush is very likely scum I do not think this is true. Kush is not shitting up the thread. He is providing reads with reasoning. Even if the reasoning behind these reads is bad, it does not make him scum. He is trying to push lynches on people who he thinks are scum. | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:19 Papa_Smurf wrote: Funny thing is, if grack is scum, wouldnt kush be scum for bussing him? I can see vayne as scum. pandain as sk is possible, I would definitely label him as not scum What speaks against PAndain not being scum if you don't buy my "experienced" theory? I mean, against Pandain there is most eveidence for scum. He switched his vote at the last second to save BH from getting lynched. | ||
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Mafia hit does not go through for whatever reason on N1. They know it. They also know who they hit. What would you think in case you are scum: 1) Was the guy docced/jailed (not jailed unless scum hit SnB (lol) on N1)? 2) Is the guy bulletproof SK? 3) Is the guy veteran? What to do. Fakeclaim veteran for some bullshit reason (honestly Grack's reasoning for claiming was not that good). What happens next. Look at Koshi's response for the fakeclaim. It screams "fuck you, you are fakeclaiming, i am vet". Then Grack retracts from his claim and says "i was looking for reactions". Okay, what have we got here: 1) In case scum hit Koshi on N1. Good, we can safely assume he is a vet. Hit him again, he dies. (this means Vayne is probably town - why would scum block Koshi when he has no night life left?). 2) In case scum did not hit Koshi on N1. Good we now know who the SK most likely is. Or he was docced. We also figured out Koshi is the vet most likely. Roleblock + hit him the next night (he looks townie as fuck anyways) and have one of our team claim the roleblock. Vayne is under suspicion, looks really good on him! Except that Vayne's RB claim was full of shit. | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:34 Grackaroni wrote: Haha ok Rayn, I would never purposely pull myself into a situation where I would gain lots of attention/suspicion just so that I could figure out player's roles. Did you gain suspicion until now? No, you did gain town-credit. | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:36 Grackaroni wrote: Because he had valid points and confidently expressed them. The manner in which Oats/WoS/Umasi planted their votes on BH at the time and then disappeared when nobody was pushing hard for his lynch with a well-written case made me think it was more likely that some players in that group were scum just pawning off their vote and that it was not a scum lynch. First of all it was me/Umasi/WoS who voted for OP at thet time. Oats had voted earlier, and gave reasons for his vote, the reasons were good. You also did agree with me earlier on when i talked about OP! What you just said is simply not true. ...as for OP, most of my reasoning is coming from Rayn but I did say before my dislike of OP's posting and added in my own points. Then there is this: On September 14 2013 06:51 Grackaroni wrote: I'm voting Zealous. Pandain is town and he has good points. What exactly were those good points Pandain brought up? | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:45 VayneAuthority wrote: I just spent the last 5 pages explaining it, you can't be serious right? read the thread moron There is nothing else to say than: "I got roleblocked, that means scum hit Koshi on N1 and N2". Why did you even ask the hosts if vet can be roleblokced? What's the point? You said "as Koshi did not claim roleblock on D2 it means he was hit on both nights". What? Like scum roleblock the veteran N1 and hit him on N2 and he dies? ROFLLLLL! | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:50 Grackaroni wrote: you voting for OP wasn't a suspicious vote because you had already started the case on him earlier in your filter. Oats kind of pushed him earlier but not nearly enough to convince others to vote for him. The big post Pandain made about the votes falling in on OP too easily and the lack of people vocally defending OP. And you bought that at face value given that: 1) You were suspicious of Pandain 2) Pandain was right there defending OP 3) At early on in the game when i voted for OP and gave my reasoning (which was in fact exactly what made people vote for him in the end) there were a lot of people arguing against OP being scum. Makes sense how? | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:49 VayneAuthority wrote: once again, i already explained everything you just posted. learn 2 read Okay, let's talk about something else. This is going nowhere. I made a post about people's reactions to N1 start OP's last second vote / his claim. Ignore my analysis on yourself, what do you think about it? | ||
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On September 18 2013 23:58 Grackaroni wrote: 1 and 2) Scum basically never come out like this and start hard defending a teammate this vocally. They think it will make them appear too scummy. 3) I don't remember anyone arguing that they thought Op wasn't scum except Koshi. Okay this is the chain of events in chronological order: You change your vote on OP and give a reasoning for it. Oats makes a case on OP and votes for him. Then me/Umasi/WoS vote for OP. You have a scumread on SnB and Pandain. SnB starts a wagon on Zealos. Pandain joins the Zealos wagon and says "there is no resistance to OP lynch". What do you do after that? You agree with you scumread on a wagon that's been pushed by your other scumread! for what, "because there is no resistance on the dude's lynch i think is scum, besides the other two dudes i think are scum". What do you need, do your town reads need to oppose a scumlynch for you to think the lynch is in fact on scum? Your voting behavior on D1 makes absolutely zero sense. | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:25 VayneAuthority wrote: now can we lynch grack/pandain and get off my ballsack, thanks I see no reason why we shouldn't. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Grackaroni | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:27 Grackaroni wrote: I even indicated earlier that Zealos was scummy and that I was going to consider switching on to him. Pandain's post and the easy flow of unexpected vote were enough to make me uncomfortable with the lynch and prompted me to switch. What doesn't make sense? It doesn't make sense that you have three scumreads. OP, Pandain, SnB. You switch from your scumread to another person who is pushed by both of your other scumreads, while the wagon you were on has zero scumreads of yours.. The reasoning is "noone is agruing against OP lynch". :p | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:29 Pandain wrote: Actually your right, if Vayne was role blocked he couldn't have shot. Doesn't change the fact that Zealos is still the best lynch. Don't understand how you can defend someone who's play so drastically differs from his town play in previous games. Zealos isn't a town lurker, or at least a town non contributing person. He's a mafia one, etc mtg mafia. Why would you go off worse reads when blue roles will provide us more info later on Zealos might be SK but i want to lynch scum now because it gives us better connections to the last scum. Zealos is not mafia because of D1 votes. | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:34 ShiaoPi wrote: Look guys, I know things get heated up sometimes, when playing. But I have repeatedly asked you to keep the tone down. This is really my last warning on insults. Next one will get modkilled as soon as I see the post. You don't need to bother with me. I don't take it personally. Although i agree in general. | ||
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On September 19 2013 00:38 Pandain wrote: If you think Zealos is sk then lynch him to lower kp. He also can clearly be mafia to day one votes and you ignore context otherwise. Okay so Zealos is mafia and Blazinghand last minute switches to lynch a scumbuddy instead of lynching town!blubbers? Bullshiiiiitttt.. | ||
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