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raynpelikoneet
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On September 18 2013 06:39 strongandbig wrote: rayn why does umasi's claim make him town? It doesn't make him town, other stuff does. I think all the people who were on BH D1 are town because of the clusterfuck last minute. | ||
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On September 18 2013 07:15 VayneAuthority wrote: got roleblocked last night can veteran be roleblocked to die in 1 shot? On September 18 2013 07:17 VayneAuthority wrote: also whoever roleblocked me should come forward and confirm me, that would be great. On September 18 2013 07:28 VayneAuthority wrote: so there you have it, koshi didn't say he was rb'ed yesterday so he took 2 shots. there's the missing shot from yesterday. I would like to hear your thought process behind these posts vayne. To me this souds really odd because of the following: SnB was roleblocked N1. He was town. You were roleblocked N2. You know you are town. There was only 1 death N1. Town veteran died N2 with SnB. In any case, for you, there are 2 roleblock claims. SnB was town so he wa not lying. You should automatically assume Koshi was hit on N1 and N2. Why do you need to know if veteran ability can be blocked or not before you can say so, you were roleblocked, remember? Or are you scum, roleblocked Koshi on N2 and hit him, and now you are going "see guys, i am right" and fakeclaiming the roleblock? Also why would mafia not roleblock you if you are town? | ||
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Papa is probably town, I think Vayne is, waiting to see more of Oats, Zealos, and Sno_man, especially the latter. First one we lynch should be one of Vayne, Sno, and zealos, as I'm not too confident in Kush anymore after reading his town filters. I'm going to do an analysis on all of them and hopefully it will be good Why is Vayne first probably town, and after that in your lynch priority list? What changed during that time? | ||
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On September 14 2013 07:12 Grackaroni wrote: Yup, that last minute vote switch. OP wasn't even in the thread before he did that shit. Totally townie response. On September 14 2013 07:18 Zealos wrote: I think OP/BH needs to die. Survivor = lynch I doubt he even is Survivor. His attempt to argue his way out of it is crummy, at best. Get it? ##Predayvote:OP vigipls Totally townie response. On September 14 2013 07:18 Pandain wrote: Alright, this is a lot of good stuff to analyze. I'll make a post later. Totally null response. Never analyzes this later. On September 14 2013 07:19 kushm4sta wrote: I.believe bh Totally null response. On September 14 2013 07:19 Sn0_Man wrote: OP's claim is bullshit I think. Unless BlazingHand is a character in Golden Sun? Also I didn't see any particularly out-of-place capital S in that post but it was about 2000 words so I may just not have seen it. Totally supertownie response. Like what scum does not know or fakes they do not know BH is in their team? On September 14 2013 07:27 VayneAuthority wrote: im back, catching up now. saw the mislynch though =/ gotta look at the people that followed my wagon with little to no support. Totally null to scummy response. Doesn't even address the most important issue in thread atm. On September 14 2013 08:14 Papa_Smurf wrote: Lol BH I love you <3 Some things off the top of my head: Raynp's and Koshi's dropping of SnB is off(especially gotta look at raynp, that little bugger). I wouldn't think both are scum . Seemed like the thread presence of vayne and grack fell off (not sure but had town reads on them double checking that shit). And guess I'll just wait til rigghhhhhtttt about dawn for anything super insightful. Haven't really decided if I'll post right before or quite a bit before I have no idea what this means. If i had to guess i'd say leaning on town because if i was scum with BH i would be super mad at him for fakeclaiming. Other people (Oats) didn't say anything. For Oats that's reasonable as he was probably sleeping and he pushed BH on D1 anyways so idgaf about it. He's town. From this: Snodude, Zealos, Grackaroni, and Umasi + Oats (for different reasons), debears. kushmasta, Pandain. VayneAuthority Holy shit, there are only three players left who are not green! If anyone disagrees with me, time to talk. | ||
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On September 18 2013 20:56 kushm4sta wrote: i disagree! what grack said wasn't townie. just busing in an obvious bus spot Why the fuck would you buss? There is a chance town buys the claim and does not lynch BH D2? If you take hard chances like that and buss you are gonna have a hard time not justifying any other vote than a vote on BH on D2. Grackaroni was the first who said "BH is scum or anti-town, that's it" after me. | ||
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I think it's impossible that BlazingHand is scum with Pandain and debears. Hell i think it's impossible that either of Pandain/BH is scum. The reason is this. BH + one of Pandain/debears would make 2/3 best players in this game as scum. Do you think scumteam would fuck up on D1-N1 like they did in case one of those guys was scum with BH. Hell fucking no. That makes Pandain/debears non-scum. Interestingly enough, if (when) Vayne flips scum, it will be confirmed that he is lying about the roleblock. That makes it 99% certain that scum roleblocked and hit Koshi on N2. That also means they did not hit Koshi on N1. Look at Vayne's posts at the start of D3 and about the roleblock. lol, that's crap. Anyways, if scum did not hit Koshi on N1, it means scum most likely hit the SK. Mafia definitely did not hit WoS on N1, that's absurd given that BH was alive, he's too good to make such a crappy hit. That leaves us with debears/Pandain as SK. kushmasta is scum too i believe. He has pushed debears/Pandain all game with no real reasoning (well there is some on debears - but it's not strong). | ||
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On September 18 2013 21:50 Zealos wrote: I think BH is scum too You should start commenting on the game now.. Even if i think you are not scum nor SK there are 7 other people in this game who might not. Prove that you are town. You havn't talked about anything besides "SnB is scum". Guess what, he wasn't. | ||
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On September 18 2013 22:09 kushm4sta wrote: rayne im really frustrated with you right now. your arguments are just bad and not how you play this game. your argument: they are a good scumteam so they would not have let that cluster fuck happen is a terrible argument and wrong. full of wifom. what interaction between grack/bh leads you to believe that grack is town? The interaction after BH's claim. BH calls Grack scum for his voteswitch and then Grack calls BH's scumread bad (for reasonable reasons). That ensures even more that Grack can't accept any other lynch on D2 that BH. Remember, there are yet ~half of the players who have not posted on N1. There is no way scum can 100% assume BH is gonna get lynched on D2. That's unnecessary and really dumb if Grack is scum with BH. If that was the case BH is making Grack to either (1) totally vote for BH on D2, or (2) possibly out himself in case he is trying to push another lynch than BH. And yes, my reasoning for debears/Pandain is reasonable. IF you think it's false explain to me why. "Best" players (especially when teamed up together) make very little mistakes compared to other people. | ||
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If Grackaroni is scum with BH and Pandain, why did Grackaroni fakeclaim veteran to draw votes off debears (non-scum) onto BH (his scumbuddy)? | ||
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Here's his filter from p3 -> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=427569&user=Grackaroni¤tpage=3 How does BH/Pandain/Grack make sense to you as scumteam? | ||
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On September 18 2013 22:38 kushm4sta wrote: There is work for me to do on this game, for sure. Hopefully I will do it tonight. MY to do list includes 1 a case on grack 2 a case on panda 3 a case on debears (plus an expansion of my metaread including newer games) 4 defense of vayne/zealos/anyone else people want to lynch I will get to this later, but which would you like first rayne? Case on Grack and defense on Vayne. | ||
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On September 14 2013 12:29 Grackaroni wrote: You think that both Rayn and BH look scummy. Rayn was repeatedly pushing BH over Pandain when nobody was suspicious of BH. do you think that Rayn was actually bussing BH today or do you think that they both have things about them that are scummy but it is unlikely that they are scum together? Where do you get the idea that i would be bussing BH? It was not sure he was scum then. If i was scum and he was not, why is it fishy for SnB to assume i could be scum and BH is not? | ||
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