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Fuck yeah, this is awesome! | ||
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You are scum. EZPZ! | ||
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I pretty firmly believe you were right on bh because of luck; your reasons for voting him were a policy lynch on his playstyle when there was no way of knowing that he wasn't one of many townies who tend to hurt town with their play styles. But that's not important anymore. What is important is that if you don't step the fuck off my back and start finding and pushing the actual scum, town could easily still lose this. Also fu with this. | ||
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I do not need to answer you anything. You start finding scum and let go of a confirmed town if you are town. | ||
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On September 17 2013 08:35 strongandbig wrote: Haha rayn you're cute. I'm But if you're still serious. (1) it's very hypocritical for you to push me for not doing anything day 2 when you were the one saying that as long as you were happy with the lynch you were not going to make cases. No one did anything day 2 cause the lynch was essentially pre-determined. (2) Why would I as scum have pushed hard for a last minute vote switch onto zealos when I could easily have swapped to kush? (3) compare my play this game to any scum game of mine and tell me they're similar. I dare you to do that and not look like a lunatic. (4) I explained the pandain/bh thing day 1. Your reasoning was "pandain took stances therefore town" but his stances day 1 were easy stances for scum to take - attacking lurkers and pushing for a kush lynch. Plus his logic for those stances was lacking and didnt demonstrate a town mindset. Since day 1 he's stepped up his posting significantly and good on him, but as of the day one lynch there was very good reason for thinking he was scummier than bh and you are currently being blinded by the fact that you lucked into being right. I pretty firmly believe you were right on bh because of luck; your reasons for voting him were a policy lynch on his playstyle when there was no way of knowing that he wasn't one of many townies who tend to hurt town with their play styles. But that's not important anymore. What is important is that if you don't step the fuck off my back and start finding and pushing the actual scum, town could easily still lose this. Okay, i'll still answer: 1) Simply wrong. There were people who were trying to figure out stuff. Me, Koshi, debears, kush, Oats come to mind. 2) Because voting ofr kush and him flipping town would look awful. There were townies already on blubbers, a lot of townies assume kush is town. I dunno, maybe kush is scum, who the fuck knows. Suddenly he looks a lot worse for his push on debears D2. 3) Yeah you are authentic. Just like in Sicilian. No i don't really know your meta, but you have not done shit this game. 4) No, my reasoning was something else. You are wrong. | ||
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On September 17 2013 08:54 Papa_Smurf wrote: Rayne this is terrible thinking. Why wouldn't kush oats and koshi be scum on me then for actually trying to start a wagon on me over BH then d2? I dunno about kush, Oats was a main pusher of BH on D1 besides me. Koshi is town. | ||
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On September 17 2013 10:14 strongandbig wrote: 1. You weren't. You were sitting on the op lunch and telling us all why you didn't need to do anything else. 2. You're just tunneling now. Changing your read on kush to maintain your tunnel on me. 3. If you believe this you are an idiot. 4. No u There's no way I'm getting lynched anyway so I'm just gonna ignore you for a while. So tell me about zealos. I'm inclined to believe that the reason people were pushing hard for kush as an alternative lynch to bh rather than zealos is because zealos is also scum. I really don't agree with you that his post death stuff makes him seem town, and I intend to do my best to get zealos lynched tomorrow unless I see an extremely persuasive case on someone else. 1) This is a straight out lie. You are taking one post of mine (to Vayne) and descibe the whole phase by it. lol. Anyone who's been following D2 knows this is a lie. 2) .... idk what to say. kush's alignment has nothing to do with yours. You asked for a scenario, i gave you one, now you call me out for it? 3) Let's see what you have done this game. "rayn is scum, maybe not, maybe he is, maybe not. Zealos is scum, here is a meta-case, oh actually it's not that good, but Zealos is scum, lynch zealos, zealos is scum. Hmm i wonder if OP is survivor/scum/sk??" This is everything you have talked about in this game. me, Zealos, and BH (in a manner that does not help anyone. who the fuck cared if he was scum/survivor/sk after he claimed he will not be helping town). You have never tried to convince anyone to vote for Zealos. You do never interact with anyone in this game other than me. You do not have any other reads (besides one post where you say kush is prolly town). You don't talk about anything besides lynching Zealos, and you are not even trying to convince anyone into lynching him, nor are you trying to figure out more by asking questions from him. You just say "lynch Zealos, he is scum". 4) My reasoning was that Pandain's post had 5 reads with reasoning besides tha point "policy lynch kush and lurkers". BH's post had "policy lynch kush (without "knowing" his meta as he claimed) and lurkers" and "this happened then that happened". That was my fucking point and that's why i was keen in knowing how the fuck does Pandain look worse by his first post than BH. Of course nobody ever answered me (besides Koshi), as usual... So, if you are town stop this bullshit already and start playing the game. Start interacting with people whose nickname is not raynpelikoneet and start telling people why Zealos is scum if you want him lynched. You know my stance on him, it should be clear. | ||
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On September 17 2013 20:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Im not actually a cop, mafia, dont shoot me. Rayn, can you give us a summary of your top 3 scumreads? I dont really know them after n1. This might not be accurate, and i'll write a bigger post about this before PC, but yes: Vayne - what i said on D2. SnB/Zealos - i think one of them is scum and the other one is town. Both have done nothing besides called each other scum, SnB calls me scum and Zealos calls me town. Roleblock speaks in SnB's favor, unless there is town JK who decided to offensive jail and that's why scum KP didn't go through (i do not think this is likely, but it is a possibility). Last one is hard. Maybe Pandain, maybe Sno, maybe debears (this read has weakened a lot). | ||
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On September 17 2013 20:54 Oatsmaster wrote: I think everyone was confused. So I wouldnt say that this makes Pandain and BH not scum together. You can't really call scum confused can you? They have QT to discuss things and make plans. Townies yes, were likely confused. I mean, if we assume Zealos is scum aswell. Would BH and scum take a risk of having 2 scum wagons opposed to one town wagon where if one townie swittches votes scum dies? | ||
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On September 17 2013 20:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually i wanna discuss the SnB Roleblock. After n1, I think he was not in anyone's townlist so why would scum roleblock him and give him towncred? Makes no sense to me. Nobody saw anything blue about him right? Thats why Im thinking its a town roleblock. Also Scum wont send kp through SnB, so I doubt kp was blocked from that. In case SnB is town scum would probably assume he is blue from the way he played D1 and N1. Because really, he has not engaged into any discussion other than me/Zealos. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote: You are really trying to justify the scum roleblock on SnB. Why? I am not trying to justify anything. I am saying it's far more likely that in case SnB was really roleblocked it's scum roleblock. First of all town roleblocker is usually a jailkeeper. Jailers usually do not offensive jail, at least on N1. Scum roleblock possible blues, no matter how good or bad they look. SnB wasn't looking too bad for anyone except for me. He was not a top lynch candidate for D2, probably not for D3 either. It makes sense for scum to roleblock him in case he is town. That's what i am saying. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:13 Oatsmaster wrote: in a 5 minute span? No way effective communication happens. It's not a 5min span. The voteswitch on OP happened 5:12-5:14. Lynch was 7:00. That's nearly 2 hours for scum to figure out how to get out of that shit. | ||
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On September 17 2013 21:22 Oatsmaster wrote: not that dude. the part where OP voted for zealos and pandain voted for bubbles. Isnt that what we are talking about? Also, look back at n1, SnB was like the second probable lynch man. After OP. and he was scum roleblocked which pretty much makes it hard to lynch him??? Thats horrific scum play. And it didnt happen. Town RB's that arent JK's exist too man. Yes, that makes me think they are not scum together. They had 2 hours. The fact that they acted in the last 5 minutes speaks in favor of them not being scum together, because Pandain was here, BH claimed he lied about not being here. If they were scum they HAD TIME TO DISCUSS THE LYNCH when the votes did pile up on BH. If they were scum together they WOULD have that 2 hours and they would not have made a risky shitfest like that imo. SnB was not the second lynch. I was the only one pushing that (besides Zealos and Grack agreeing with me). Tbh that was not gonna happen, for real. Too many people disgreeing with me. Even if i was right and SnB was scum there was no way i was gonna get him lynched. I think we should let SnB talk for himself now and D3. I am a bit confused, do you think he is scum or not? | ||
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