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On September 17 2013 02:19 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 17 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So, first of all, what do you think of my read on Koshi? And do you still think Grack is scum based on what has happened since the last time you were here? I think it's wrong and this game reminds me a lot more of him in sicilian than persona. You need to go back and read that. He used vivax as a puppet the whole game and got "fake angry" multiple times that game. it's so similar to this. Except in this game, he's using you as his puppet. I have thought grack was scum for a while now, between what he did day 1 with the subtly asking for people's opinions and stuff before the game was really fleshed out. He wanted to know who he could push as mafia. Then you add in all this fake claiming stuff and it's stupid. doesn't help town at all. As I said earlier that fake fight between him and koshi looked extremely fake so that's the nail in the coffin for me. don't know who's the 3rd if it's not you but I assume kush/umasi/zealos or something But he was not scum in Sicilian. He scumhunted with Vivax first, when Vivax died he scumhunted with me. Every scum we found Koshi shot. I could have totally figured out he was the SK but layabout's check fucked that all up. Could you compare to GoT if you got something to compare because comparing this game to his SK game is not a good comparison, SK needs to find scum too. In my opinion it points more towards him being town here than scum. I agree that the fake claim was stupid. But as scum, why do it? To save debears (who is not scum according to you)? To save BH? I can't find any other reason for him doing so as scum. I wasn't in GoT. The only game where I was ever town and he was scum was nuclear mafia and I was the only person that had him as mafia in that game. everyone else believed his naive town approach. feels like the same thing here...he is so obviously scum to me but no one else agrees. really frustrating
I can tell you if Koshi is scum here his play is 100% different from GoT being scum with him in that game.
I promise you i will reread NWM regarding Koshi before D3, but i do not think he is scum.
What are your thoughts on SnB's contributions overall this game?
If you had to pick a lurker from your list at this point to be mafia, who would it be and why compared to others?
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On September 17 2013 02:28 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 01:04 kushm4sta wrote:
My case was amazing and right. Completely different attitude as scum.
Show me debears insulting someone as town.
My reads right now are panda grack debears.
It's just I have not written a case on the other two. kush, i just read the games you quoted. I don't see your point tbh. Can you tell us how exactly his attitude is different? He actually "insults" (i would not call that as an insult) Hapahauli in his town game a same manner he "insults" other people in his scum game. Both are different from this game imo. Both are similar to Desert and Aperture. You can't just take one quote where he shouts and look at it. When i read the posts in context and read the thread +/- 1 page from that it doesn't look like your case holds water. If you think debears is scum based on that you need to explain better what you mean. Based on your case and what i just read i don't think you are right. On phone He insults people directly in this game. He never does that as town. He disagrees with people emphatically as town which is what he was doing with hapa.Bh lynch is fine today whatever. Scum and town agree on a lynch just makes me mad about it. I will hopefully write a more convincing meta case today looking at his more recent games. It's just that those were the ones in his profile is why I chose them. L2 update for profile so it's easier to catch you. Now debears thinks I'm scum? Lol. Never done something like this as scum ever unless it was a bus. Also Notice hOw panda has nothing to say now that he can't push for my plynch anymore.
No kush. If you are making a meta case you need to point out what's different regarding his actions in town games in comparsion to his scum games.
You can't just say "he did this in this game, and didn't do that in his othet town games". You need to point out where in his scum games he did the same thing if you are using that as a reasoning. Preferrably point out he did that in all of his scum games, that's when it becomes accurate.
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On September 17 2013 02:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
well likewise, if SnB is scum here he is not playing like sicilian at all. But aside from the meta differences, he is coming to smart conclusions and transparently trying to analyze the game. He also hasn't just written me off as scum so I'm biased here. Seems like he is one of the few people ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE THE GAME.
I will get back to you on the lurker thing, there's too many replacements in this game and I got nothin' to work with really. Kush seemed scummy to me early because he was martyring and the blubb wagon just barely beat him out but I'm unsure on him now. He hasn't really given much to work with. Zealos seems like he doesn't give a shit about the game at all but that's not really enough to work with either.
Could you point out some direct quotes from SnB's filter where he is trying to solve the game (do not bring BH into this, it's a good place to hide in case SnB is scum and BH is not)?
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On September 17 2013 02:36 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
well likewise, if SnB is scum here he is not playing like sicilian at all. But aside from the meta differences, he is coming to smart conclusions and transparently trying to analyze the game. He also hasn't just written me off as scum so I'm biased here. Seems like he is one of the few people ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE THE GAME.
I will get back to you on the lurker thing, there's too many replacements in this game and I got nothin' to work with really. Kush seemed scummy to me early because he was martyring and the blubb wagon just barely beat him out but I'm unsure on him now. He hasn't really given much to work with. Zealos seems like he doesn't give a shit about the game at all but that's not really enough to work with either. Could you point out some direct quotes from SnB's filter where he is trying to solve the game (do not bring BH into this, it's a good place to hide in case SnB is scum and BH is not)? Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 05:31 strongandbig wrote:
here's something people can respond to while i keep reading.
why are we totally ignoring zealos, despite him being the Wagon of Justice yesterday? No one has said a single thing that convinces me away from my interpretation of the differences between how he's played this game and how he played in those other two town games i posted links to. He hasn't engaged with this game at all except to poke at me occasionally. I'm pretty mystified by how no one has even mentioned him since yesterday. I still think he's scum. Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 03:18 strongandbig wrote:Hey guys Posting from phone in class Posting notes: + Show Spoiler +
Partner wants to know if I have a scum read on koshi
I don't like pandaman's role name reasoning. No reason hosts can't mix up the roles or give scum safe fake claims. Also from his post his opinions are basically easy ones - kush needs to straighten up. No lurking. Super scummy opening post IMO.
Then in his next post grack makes a decent attack but twists pandaman's argument - he didn't say lynch grack cause he's bad. He said lunch grack cause he's noncommittal.
Ppl talking about me finding debears smurf slip as coach. I clicked profile and last posts on his account. Not very hard to do.
I like Ryan's first four posts/entry into the thread. Okay wait maybe not - rayne is quibbling about old partners questions with koshi but asking about stupid things...
Rayen says that good karma looks good about the early day 1 quarrel - wtf where did this come from...
Ryan's reasons for saying that grack is scum are also terrible. And he keeps going on about panda in being better than old partner but they just feel completely different...
Anyway non rayne notes.
Fracks case on blubbdavod interesting . Go reread.
Wtf is up with snoman yelling about onegu
Here's the thing with Ryan. He argues and gets in people's faces and posts a million times as either alignment. The biggest difference is when he's scum he argues about things that don't matter and don't move the town forward, but when he's town he actually pushes on points that are important. Just compare his scum filter from game of thrones and compare that to his town filter from aperture 2, the difference is obvious. My first reaction is "this is scum Ryan". He's arguing a lot about old partners questions from early in the game but he's finding quibbles and there's no way what koshi thinks of those questions is remotely worth the amount of text Ryan puts in. Ditto for the arguing about whether grack could really have changed his mind for the reasons he said. I'm not sure about rayne though. For me it's always hard to figure him out for sure because of how constantly interactive he is even as scum. One other thing - I think panda in is scum. His post was that bad and opening posts are inportant. He had only easy scum opinions - lunch kush, lurkers bad - in that post. plus he has obviously bad reasoning on role names and bad justification for his town reads on me, va, and gk. like, what townie sees someone whose only comment on the main issues in the thread was "that's silly" and says "oh yes that guy is town, the whole thread really was a distraction." Plus I don't think vayne was moving the thread forward as much as shouting at people/being aggro, and it was really easy for me to click on papasmirf's profile button. None of those strike me as townie reasons for townreads. Right now I want to lynch pandaman's. however, before I vote I want to reread the blurb case as well. Anyway I have a problem set due tmo so I'm probably not gonna be voting until tomorrow morning. Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 05:18 strongandbig wrote:yeah i dont want to lynch kush right now. he's not playing like he did when we were scum together. when he's scum he tends to lurk but he also tends to be pretty aggressive with calling other people scum for no reason, especially his teammates. here he's actually engaging people's points: On September 13 2013 00:15 kushm4sta wrote:On September 12 2013 13:24 Pandain wrote:
Zealos seems town because if someone else was Isaac(who is very likely to be a character due to the fact he's the main party leader in the original GS, thanks Wikipedia!), then he would get counterclaimed. And Isaac isn't evil. I don't know if it's forbidden to reason like this, based on character names, but that's what I got.
Scum are given fake claims though! On September 13 2013 05:56 kushm4sta wrote:
WOW i haven't even finished reading the thread yet, but this shit coming from pandain about Isaac and what not is complete and utter garbage.
IT SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT HIS ROLE....
Scum were given fake claims... i know this for a fact because I asked about it. On September 13 2013 11:22 kushm4sta wrote:
Also, just from kind of reading/skimming the thread so far, I really think OP and Panda are both terrible lynches. They are not the kind of people who I think make good d1 lynches.
You don't lynch people who are vocal, not spamming, good players on D1. All my mafia experience has taught me it always ends up lynching potentially useful town. (see WoS lynch d1 in persona).
On September 14 2013 04:08 kushm4sta wrote:
Rofl rayne you do this every game. Contradiction does not equal scum. You get tunneled on people for terrible reasons.
Your tunnel on snb looks exactly like your tunnel on wos in persona. Did you notice that? those are not the kind of posts i expect from scum kush. at the very least i dont want to lynch him yet. Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 06:45 strongandbig wrote:On September 16 2013 06:18 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:On September 16 2013 06:10 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 05:53 strongandbig wrote:man i still want to lynch rayne. like, this doesn't strike me as a townie mindset: + Show Spoiler +On September 16 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not need to make a case on anyone, i want to lynch OP today.
Isn't it annoying when a townie will not tell you what makes you scum? You probably need to kill me next night. On September 16 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.
The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked. tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it. I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today? if you think someone is scum, you should explain why... otherwise what if you die? what if your other case is wrong? and more importantly, it gives people more stances that they can use to read you. it's just, like, trying to get rayn lynched is going to take so much effort, and i have no idea if i'll gain any traction at all... i'm honestly a little less certain than I was yesterday, because rayn doesn't feel like he's been as aggressively and retardedly confrontational as I expect scum-him to be. but I really don't see how you can have 16 pages of filter as town and have your only real cases/pushes be the terrible tunnel on me that was based on nitpicking and misconstruing my posts, and now his push on OP that is entirely "there can't be two survivors". it's like, he if anyone would do all that yelling and bad arguing to try to get me mislynched as scum... but would he really? Can people talk to me here about rayn? + Show Spoiler +
I feel like zealos is obviscum though and would rather lynch him for the moment.
i need to reread bh's filter post-claim and see how I feel about his lynch. I could maybe get down with it, though, in large part because of the breadcrumb thing
. Lynching rayn is bad. Just play the game by rayn his rules and he will find the scummers eventually. Rayn was completely wrong about the scummers in his first 20 pages of filter in Persona. Then he got it right. There is nothing scummy about what rayn is doing. You might dislike that he is hunting you, but at least he is hunting. You are also not getting lynched so I don't really see why you are being so annoyed. btw, if there weren't people like rayn then you would go into lylo with a LOT LESS information. rayn hunts active posters in his games. Unlike others. i disagree. rayn makes the thread too long and hard to re-read and analyze in-depth. regardless of his alignment i think having him in a game hurts town. Yeah totally. Look at those first 2 days in aperture. Rayn didn't say shit and town really won the game there. town lost for reasons that had nothing to do with rayn in that game, he played fine. he didn't distract them by being a lynch prospect and he used his PR pretty well. On September 16 2013 06:29 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 06:15 strongandbig wrote:On September 16 2013 06:10 Koshi wrote:On September 16 2013 05:53 strongandbig wrote:man i still want to lynch rayne. like, this doesn't strike me as a townie mindset: + Show Spoiler +On September 16 2013 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not need to make a case on anyone, i want to lynch OP today.
Isn't it annoying when a townie will not tell you what makes you scum? You probably need to kill me next night. On September 16 2013 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 04:40 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw I would love to know how I'm a main candidate without a single fucking real case on me.
The only case that has been presented is a kush case that was 1) wrong and 2) I debunked. tbh i do not understand that either. People who are voting for you should make a case. kush has a case but i do not think that's good and you have given an acceptable defence to it. I do not however understand why should i make a case on someone i do not even want to lynch today? if you think someone is scum, you should explain why... otherwise what if you die? what if your other case is wrong? and more importantly, it gives people more stances that they can use to read you. it's just, like, trying to get rayn lynched is going to take so much effort, and i have no idea if i'll gain any traction at all... i'm honestly a little less certain than I was yesterday, because rayn doesn't feel like he's been as aggressively and retardedly confrontational as I expect scum-him to be. but I really don't see how you can have 16 pages of filter as town and have your only real cases/pushes be the terrible tunnel on me that was based on nitpicking and misconstruing my posts, and now his push on OP that is entirely "there can't be two survivors". it's like, he if anyone would do all that yelling and bad arguing to try to get me mislynched as scum... but would he really? Can people talk to me here about rayn? + Show Spoiler +
I feel like zealos is obviscum though and would rather lynch him for the moment.
i need to reread bh's filter post-claim and see how I feel about his lynch. I could maybe get down with it, though, in large part because of the breadcrumb thing
. Lynching rayn is bad. Just play the game by rayn his rules and he will find the scummers eventually. Rayn was completely wrong about the scummers in his first 20 pages of filter in Persona. Then he got it right. There is nothing scummy about what rayn is doing. You might dislike that he is hunting you, but at least he is hunting. You are also not getting lynched so I don't really see why you are being so annoyed. btw, if there weren't people like rayn then you would go into lylo with a LOT LESS information. rayn hunts active posters in his games. Unlike others. i disagree. rayn makes the thread too long and hard to re-read and analyze in-depth. regardless of his alignment i think having him in a game hurts town. This is such bullshit and such a cheap shot. Spewing bullshit like a monkey. Probably heard it somewhere else first? Fucking back this up? You can't. Rayn post a lot but that is a quality IN BOTH ALIGNMENTS. Nothing else. Fact that you can't keep up with it is your fault. Because you can't keep up. jubjub. what does his alignment have to do with it? I'm saying he plays that way as both alignments and as both alignments it hurts town. and it's not that i'm having trouble keeping up in this game, it's a mini and the speed is fine. it's that rayn jumps from one momentary interaction to the next so quickly that there's no time to analyze in depth and in context while keeping up with the thread. there is no way his filter can have a coherent narrative if it's constantly posting about every little thing that happens, and townies' filters should have coherent narratives because that's how you establish that you're town, and that's how you persuade people to follow your reads, and that's how you make an environment where it's hard for scum to stay hidden. but anyway we should probably argue about this post game because as we've both agreed, it has nothing to do with rayn's alignment. he plays this terrible spammy style as both town and scum. a few quotes from different parts of the game
First quote:
SnB is saying Zealos is playing differently from his town games. I asked him about it and he said "i agree, i can't point out how this is in line with his scum meta either". Now if this meta read (which is all he has according to his posts) makes Zealos scum, why doesn't kush's meta case on debears make debears scum? They are like 100% similar, based only on one side of a meta argument.
Second:
I don't think his meta read on me adds anything to the game. Some parts of it are just wrong (you should know that too). I think his case on Pandabearguy is not strong, and he never pushes it, actually he agrees with him later on. He had a weak scumread on you (or null), he never tries to question you after that. I don't see how that's contributing or adding anything.
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A townread. Okay, you have a point. But no scumreads.
Fourth:
Another meta read on me. Still he does not push me, and i ahve btw had a coherent narrative in my filter. He never asks me anything, ever. He does not want me to explain anything. He does not really push my lynch, why, if he thinks i am scum? It's fishy.
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On September 17 2013 02:34 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
sn0 man, can you name 3 scum and why please No. I can give you like 2 townreads though (grack/dibbers). Errybody else is some varying degree of scummy/null. Obvious first lynch is OP despite his play actually making me see survivor there. Past that... Iunno I have to read filters not just the thread I think, but I wanna see how OP flips before doing that. Reading 45 pages of thread today was pretty boring TBH.
This is scummy as fuck!
He reads the thread and all he has to say is that he has 2 town reads. All his earlier scumreads faded away magically.
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On September 17 2013 02:51 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:48 strongandbig wrote:On September 17 2013 02:46 Old Partner wrote:
Also 100% my role crumbs are never findable by people who aren't me. The very fact that you think you found a crumb that I didn't show you myself is evidence that it is not in fact the crumb. ok i stop posting now so you guys can play your game sry You're claiming you breadcrumbed the letter S. Well it doesn't matter now but I'll admit I had zero plan of claiming Survivor ever this game. It's like almost never a good idea to do it. However, after realizing I had effectively broken smurf, I decided to claim, and fumbled around in my first post for something I could pass off as a crumb. It was an okay lie! plenty of people believed me, up until WoS died. I consider it a not-bad "Scramble" move all things considered. In retrospect when playing 3p I should just crumb all kinds of shit so I have anything ready to go when I need it.
You were so obviously anti-town on D1 it's not even funny.
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On September 17 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:53 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:51 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:48 strongandbig wrote:On September 17 2013 02:46 Old Partner wrote:
Also 100% my role crumbs are never findable by people who aren't me. The very fact that you think you found a crumb that I didn't show you myself is evidence that it is not in fact the crumb. ok i stop posting now so you guys can play your game sry You're claiming you breadcrumbed the letter S. Well it doesn't matter now but I'll admit I had zero plan of claiming Survivor ever this game. It's like almost never a good idea to do it. However, after realizing I had effectively broken smurf, I decided to claim, and fumbled around in my first post for something I could pass off as a crumb. It was an okay lie! plenty of people believed me, up until WoS died. I consider it a not-bad "Scramble" move all things considered. In retrospect when playing 3p I should just crumb all kinds of shit so I have anything ready to go when I need it. You were so obviously anti-town on D1 it's not even funny. Well see back then I had the protection of the Smurf! People thought my long worthless posts meant something! nope.
+1
What's funny is that some people actually did think so. Or maybe it's scummy.
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On September 17 2013 02:57 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 02:53 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:51 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:48 strongandbig wrote:On September 17 2013 02:46 Old Partner wrote:
Also 100% my role crumbs are never findable by people who aren't me. The very fact that you think you found a crumb that I didn't show you myself is evidence that it is not in fact the crumb. ok i stop posting now so you guys can play your game sry You're claiming you breadcrumbed the letter S. Well it doesn't matter now but I'll admit I had zero plan of claiming Survivor ever this game. It's like almost never a good idea to do it. However, after realizing I had effectively broken smurf, I decided to claim, and fumbled around in my first post for something I could pass off as a crumb. It was an okay lie! plenty of people believed me, up until WoS died. I consider it a not-bad "Scramble" move all things considered. In retrospect when playing 3p I should just crumb all kinds of shit so I have anything ready to go when I need it. You were so obviously anti-town on D1 it's not even funny. Well see back then I had the protection of the Smurf! People thought my long worthless posts meant something! nope. +1 What's funny is that some people actually did think so. Or maybe it's scummy. I mean obviously you saw through me, but the thing is, most of this town is bad! I was doing fine ;_;
Before you die tell us who is scum! You can boost your ego!
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On September 17 2013 02:59 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:57 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 02:53 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:51 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:48 strongandbig wrote:On September 17 2013 02:46 Old Partner wrote:
Also 100% my role crumbs are never findable by people who aren't me. The very fact that you think you found a crumb that I didn't show you myself is evidence that it is not in fact the crumb. ok i stop posting now so you guys can play your game sry You're claiming you breadcrumbed the letter S. Well it doesn't matter now but I'll admit I had zero plan of claiming Survivor ever this game. It's like almost never a good idea to do it. However, after realizing I had effectively broken smurf, I decided to claim, and fumbled around in my first post for something I could pass off as a crumb. It was an okay lie! plenty of people believed me, up until WoS died. I consider it a not-bad "Scramble" move all things considered. In retrospect when playing 3p I should just crumb all kinds of shit so I have anything ready to go when I need it. You were so obviously anti-town on D1 it's not even funny. Well see back then I had the protection of the Smurf! People thought my long worthless posts meant something! nope. +1 What's funny is that some people actually did think so. Or maybe it's scummy. I mean obviously you saw through me, but the thing is, most of this town is bad! I was doing fine ;_; Before you die tell us who is scum! You can boost your ego! hmmm I'll consider it if only for ego purposes
Hwy, it's obvious you're gonna die. Did you shoot WoS?
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On September 17 2013 03:08 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:59 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:57 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 17 2013 02:53 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2013 02:51 Old Partner wrote:
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Well it doesn't matter now but I'll admit I had zero plan of claiming Survivor ever this game. It's like almost never a good idea to do it. However, after realizing I had effectively broken smurf, I decided to claim, and fumbled around in my first post for something I could pass off as a crumb. It was an okay lie! plenty of people believed me, up until WoS died. I consider it a not-bad "Scramble" move all things considered.
In retrospect when playing 3p I should just crumb all kinds of shit so I have anything ready to go when I need it. You were so obviously anti-town on D1 it's not even funny. Well see back then I had the protection of the Smurf! People thought my long worthless posts meant something! nope. +1 What's funny is that some people actually did think so. Or maybe it's scummy. I mean obviously you saw through me, but the thing is, most of this town is bad! I was doing fine ;_; Before you die tell us who is scum! You can boost your ego! hmmm I'll consider it if only for ego purposes Hwy, it's obvious you're gonna die. Did you shoot WoS? NO jesus christ if I had kp I'd just claim vigi I don't know why you guys don't get this
Okay do you think scum shot WoS?
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On September 17 2013 03:09 Sn0_Man wrote:+ Show Spoiler [last game] +On September 05 2013 06:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
Correct. I've read the thread and I'm pretty stumped.
The person I'm most sure about being scum is probably marv, but I have the least real reasons for that. It's part gut and part the fact that I feel like the thread ought to make more sense than it does and I'm laying that at his feet.
I thought Slam/Tofu/Oats were all scum and I came up dry 3 times :/ Oh hey, look what happened last game. Mafia always sucks right around here because I can never establish who is maf. It gets easier once more flips although I'll admit I got it wrong last game. Like, I always end up with a handful of nice solid townreads and the rest of the thread are all fucking scum (even when a lot arent due to numbers). I could tell you why I'd be willing to lynch 6 or 7 different players but that's all been out in the thread already, although not by me. Like, I think Zealos is scum this game but I bet that guy flips town just like blubbers did  The problem with maf is that I never get to play maf
If you realize this (what you just said) yourself what makes you not use this as a defence if you are mafia?
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On September 17 2013 03:13 Old Partner wrote:If you think I'd use a youtube video as a crumb like that you really don't understand me at all
I meant you could have played pro-town, hid on right night phases and nail scum and therefore have it all (win the game). :D
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On September 17 2013 03:24 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 03:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its a closed setup with what appears to be 2 survivors lmao whats normal about that? Normal Mini is like literally defined by scum having 1 kp
So what do you make of Pandain saying scum might have 2, hell-.. even 3 KP?!
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He said that on D1 or N1.
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On September 17 2013 03:41 strongandbig wrote:
Ryan why in the flying fuck do you have a townread on zealos
Seriously why is it that I am having to drag this out of you
I do not have a town read on him. I am waiting for him to contribute. If he doesn't we'll lynch him on D3.
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On September 17 2013 03:44 Old Partner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 03:40 strongandbig wrote:On September 17 2013 02:51 Old Partner wrote:On September 17 2013 02:48 strongandbig wrote:On September 17 2013 02:46 Old Partner wrote:
Also 100% my role crumbs are never findable by people who aren't me. The very fact that you think you found a crumb that I didn't show you myself is evidence that it is not in fact the crumb. ok i stop posting now so you guys can play your game sry You're claiming you breadcrumbed the letter S. Well it doesn't matter now but I'll admit I had zero plan of claiming Survivor ever this game. It's like almost never a good idea to do it. However, after realizing I had effectively broken smurf, I decided to claim, and fumbled around in my first post for something I could pass off as a crumb. It was an okay lie! plenty of people believed me, up until WoS died. I consider it a not-bad "Scramble" move all things considered. In retrospect when playing 3p I should just crumb all kinds of shit so I have anything ready to go when I need it. I dunno. I think you would have had a better chance to live without the breadcrumb in the first place. Yeah, maybe. Once WoS flipped though it was a moot point. The only thing that REALLY bothers me is that people still think there's a chance I'm the SK. I may not have given good arguments for why I'm the Survivor, but really there's like literally zero chance I'm the SK
It doesn't matter, everyone discussing you is either trolling or hiding.
Do not discuss Blazinghand any more. Nothing will come out of it unless you want some information from him that does not include information about him. Especially SnB, stop!
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On September 17 2013 03:50 Old Partner wrote:
aww, we're just making some conversation. are you worried I might give something away that would hurt your faction, rayn?
lol i am the only one who is trying to figure out your scumreads. You're funny BH. <3
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kushmasta you promised to elaborate more on your case on debears. Go!
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EPT
