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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 19 2013 19:07 GMT
#3301
AFK
Papa_Smurf
Profile Joined September 2013
336 Posts
September 19 2013 19:08 GMT
#3302
Ok guys Sn0's recent posting has led me to believe he is actually scum.

Sn0's transition of a strong town read on me to a strong scumread doesn't make sense.
Sn0 has been under the radar this whole game
Sn0 voted blubb d1 with little reasoning and didn't expand on that reasoning, while talking about everyone else

On September 18 2013 02:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well, i promise I'll keep an open mind when I start re-reading players D3 but i've had dibbers down as town pretty much all game. Grack too.

Vayne for SK if there is one. Unsure of that tho.


Ok. So sn0 has been repeatedly saying I'm very town this game.

On September 19 2013 02:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
I have a post from dibber's day 1 filter that bears re-reading.
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2013 07:21 Papa_Smurf wrote:
On September 13 2013 06:33 Koshi wrote:
I don't understand why Pandain suddenly thought that. Who told him? Was it in this thread? Did he answer already when we asked before?


I do agree with this point. Zealos has neither confirmed or denied thats his real name or if he's claiming. I think people are jumping to conclusions. Let's wait to hear from Zealos more before we all start saying he claimed.

A few notes:

1) I do agree SnB's fall off in terms of posting is a little alarming. I'm not worried about it right now. As of now, kush, blubb, WoS, zealos, onegu and any other lurker should be our main concernin that order. That's 5 lurkers alone rght there. That's 1/3 of the game. We can't really expect to win with that many if they are town (and I don't think they are).

2) @Raynp - if you want people to answer your posts, stop making so many. I don't even read half your posts (espeiclaly in our last 2 games) because your posting is all over the place

Also, get rid of your hard on for OP. He has contributed more than 1/3 of the players, and nothing jumps out as super scummy. Focus on people that should actually be lynched

3) WoS - Still mia. He's not gonna be here for two days. Why is he not posting when he knows he won't be here for two days. This is unacceptable if he is town

4) @Sn0 - If you look at my post that questioned Panduins, and then Panduins second post, you will see that alot of the questions I had were fully answered by Panduins explanation of his thought process. It's logical and it checks out.

This post looks veeeeery interesting in light of current events. Admittedly its not fair to snipe stuff like this but every one of his "lets look into" players are not scum. Admittedly some potential 3rd party but how would he know?


Rereads my filter. Points out one post and only one post, suddenly super suspicious of me. Even admits "it's not fair" to nitpick one post from my filter.

On September 19 2013 02:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
Kush ain't scum bros have you guys reread any of the game?

I want dibbers to come in and talk. Preferably scumhunt. And tell me who the SK is cuz i sure dunno.


So I've made it clear who my #1 scumread is all game, and I haven't scumhunted. Ok. He asks me to find the SK (Not that I was doing it for him).

On September 19 2013 02:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lynching SK effectively halves the anti-town KP since town is far enough ahead this game (due to 15 player 3 scum setup) that SK will be hitting town as much as possible.

Alternatively, we are at 7-1-2
Lynch Scum, 2NKs on town: 5-1-1 MYLO since a mislynch leads to 2-1-1 town can't win
Lynch SK, Only 1 NK on town: 6-0-2 not mylo since a mislynch leads to 4-0-2.

Objectively better for town to lynch SK over scum. Also was hoping that scum might know who the SK is so we can lynch SK happily in harmony.


Keeps advocating a SK lynch

On September 19 2013 23:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 22:29 kushm4sta wrote:
godammit can we just lynch debears

I'd be OK with this.

Zealos SK tho.

We have like 8 hours team lets figure this out.


So I write a case that makes him think Zealos is SK, yet he wants to lynch me? Why am I suddenly a scumread (the top lynch candidate) him when I have been town all game to him? Why the sudden switch, when he agrees with my reasoning?

On September 20 2013 01:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lol poor debears/pandain. Nobody to vote for now that zealos is gone.

Grack bad lynch. Dibbers/Pandain good lynches. Seems like pandain ain't the lynch for now so I'll vote dibbers I guess until he starts catching scum or something.

Glad to hear what happens to zealos tho.

For your reading convenience:

##Unvote
##Vote: Papa_Smurf


And now he votes me?

This guy has given no reason for a complete 180 read on me. Why is that? Especially when he agrees with my zealos read and case?

That is scum oriented. At this point in the game, you need to find a scumslip (or something major) to turn a complete 180 on a town read with no reasoning.

Also, how did sn0 vote day 1?

On September 14 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote:
Final Day 1 Votecount:

strongandbig(0): Koshi, Papa_Smurf, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos, blubbdavid, raynpelikoneet

VayneAuthority(0): Papa_Smurf

WaveofShadow(0): kushm4sta

Grackaroni(0): WaveofShadow

kushm4sta(2): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner, Papa_Smurf, Zealos

Pandain(0): Grackaroni

Old Partner(4): raynpelikoneet Grackaroni, Oatsmaster, blubbdavid, Umasi, raynpelikoneet, WaveofShadow

Koshi(0): blubbdavid

blubbdavid(5): VayneAuthority, Grackaroni, Sn0_man, Umasi, Papa_Smurf, raynpelikoneet, kushm4sta, Koshi, Pandain

Zealos(4): blubbdavid, strongandbig, Grackaroni, blubbdavid, Pandain, Old Partner

raynpelikoneet(0): strongandbig

blubbdavid has been lynched!





He kept his vote parked on Blubb.

On September 13 2013 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
Doing this in the other thread too but xpost for visibility blah blah blah
##Vote: blubbdavid


This was his original reasoning. But, did he ever actually expand on this point? No. Most of his d1 was spent talking on Pandain and other people

##Vote Sn0
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 19:11 GMT
#3303
Interesting. Suspicions confirmed

Dibbers scum.
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 19 2013 19:11 GMT
#3304
id kill vayne or deabears.

not a ton of confidence in my reads thouhg. Anyone wanna try to convince me that either of these guys is town?
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 19:11 GMT
#3305
Or SK
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 19 2013 19:13 GMT
#3306
##vote debears
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 19:14 GMT
#3307
On September 18 2013 13:33 Papa_Smurf wrote:
@Panda, Grack, Raynp, (sorry oats you think zealos is town so this doesn't apply to you)


In reference to the above post of mine on zealos, in the case that you agree with my zealos read

Do we want to

1) Lynch a scum with disruptive thread presence (Kush)

or 2) Lynch a sk/possible scum with no thread presence in a possible attempt to reduce kp if he is sk (zealos)

What happened to this debears?
Also why is Sno most suspicious from D1 votes when you earlier said he was the least suspicious?
table for two on a tv tray
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 19 2013 19:14 GMT
#3308
rofl why is panda voting for me then afking?? that is the scummiest thing ive ever seen
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 19 2013 19:14 GMT
#3309
Apparently Pandain's case on kush is "he asked GM's about if scum got fakeclaims" and that makes him scum..
table for two on a tv tray
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 19 2013 19:16 GMT
#3310
On September 20 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Apparently Pandain's case on kush is "he asked GM's about if scum got fakeclaims" and that makes him scum..


ya you are right that case is ridiculous, especially since it makes perfect sense for me to ask that imo. in past games i have tried to use flavor for towns advantage and i thoguht that might be an option here (if there were no fake claims)
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 19 2013 19:18 GMT
#3311
k i would kill dibbers or panda,
##vote deberas
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 19:19 GMT
#3312
Everybody whos voted kush has been looking for a safe place to park their vote without scumhunting duh. OP/Dibbers/Pandain/Zealos.

Thats my thing on Pandain. he's doing all this defending stuff which doesn't necessarily make sense as scum, but where's the scumhunting? His ACTIONS are anti-town despite all the defending stuff (which sounds so townie superficially).

Dibbers scum because he's checked out of the thread with basement-tier scumhunting and all he wants to do is push kush (town), Zealos (Can't be scum), and now me (because zealos got modkilled). He refuses to contribute to reasonable discussion around pandain and vayne etc. And all of Koshi's reasons for dibbers being scum still stand (Great comments on "how to play", awful unreadable "scumhunting").
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 19 2013 19:20 GMT
#3313
why would debears come out of nowhere and make a case on sn0_man who he knows no one will ever sheep if he's scum? I guess too stupid to be scum WIFOM but i'd be much more inclined to kill grack/pandain. I will only vote pandain to save myself though since my case relies on grack being scum first.
I come in for the scraps
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 19:22 GMT
#3314
On September 20 2013 04:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
why would debears come out of nowhere and make a case on sn0_man who he knows no one will ever sheep if he's scum? I guess too stupid to be scum WIFOM but i'd be much more inclined to kill grack/pandain. I will only vote pandain to save myself though since my case relies on grack being scum first.

Dibbers isn't a bad player. He wouldn't do this crap as town either lol. He does it as anti-town so he can say "Hey look I'm scumhunting".
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
September 19 2013 19:22 GMT
#3315
antitowns:
debears/vayne/panda
current line of thinking
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 19 2013 19:27 GMT
#3316
I wish I was anti-town id be having a field day in this game, nothing makes sense right now. there's only a few anti-town but everyone coming in with these ninja votes and last second cases and shit is driving me insane
I come in for the scraps
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 19:32 GMT
#3317
On September 20 2013 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
I wish I was anti-town id be having a field day in this game, nothing makes sense right now. there's only a few anti-town but everyone coming in with these ninja votes and last second cases and shit is driving me insane

There must be at least 3 anti-town left and one of them is dibbers so vote that guy I think.

Also pandain but he feels too hard to lynch based on me trying and failing miserably for the last 40ish hours.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 19 2013 19:36 GMT
#3318
That case from diibbers was bad. sn0 man was talking about Blubbers being scum all throughout his filter day1. It's not like he left his vote there and then had other suspicions and never switched.

People have been doing shit loads of 180s on their reads this game. Oats just switched his read on me from scum to town within a three minute time frame.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 19:39 GMT
#3319
Dats becuz dibbers is ANTI TOWN lynch ez.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 19:39 GMT
#3320
It is koshi's will!
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