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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Papa_Smurf
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Sn0's transition of a strong town read on me to a strong scumread doesn't make sense. Sn0 has been under the radar this whole game Sn0 voted blubb d1 with little reasoning and didn't expand on that reasoning, while talking about everyone else On September 18 2013 02:32 Sn0_Man wrote: Well, i promise I'll keep an open mind when I start re-reading players D3 but i've had dibbers down as town pretty much all game. Grack too. Vayne for SK if there is one. Unsure of that tho. Ok. So sn0 has been repeatedly saying I'm very town this game. On September 19 2013 02:01 Sn0_Man wrote: I have a post from dibber's day 1 filter that bears re-reading. This post looks veeeeery interesting in light of current events. Admittedly its not fair to snipe stuff like this but every one of his "lets look into" players are not scum. Admittedly some potential 3rd party but how would he know? Rereads my filter. Points out one post and only one post, suddenly super suspicious of me. Even admits "it's not fair" to nitpick one post from my filter. On September 19 2013 02:10 Sn0_Man wrote: Kush ain't scum bros have you guys reread any of the game? I want dibbers to come in and talk. Preferably scumhunt. And tell me who the SK is cuz i sure dunno. So I've made it clear who my #1 scumread is all game, and I haven't scumhunted. Ok. He asks me to find the SK (Not that I was doing it for him). On September 19 2013 02:44 Sn0_Man wrote: Lynching SK effectively halves the anti-town KP since town is far enough ahead this game (due to 15 player 3 scum setup) that SK will be hitting town as much as possible. Alternatively, we are at 7-1-2 Lynch Scum, 2NKs on town: 5-1-1 MYLO since a mislynch leads to 2-1-1 town can't win Lynch SK, Only 1 NK on town: 6-0-2 not mylo since a mislynch leads to 4-0-2. Objectively better for town to lynch SK over scum. Also was hoping that scum might know who the SK is so we can lynch SK happily in harmony. Keeps advocating a SK lynch On September 19 2013 23:15 Sn0_Man wrote: I'd be OK with this. Zealos SK tho. We have like 8 hours team lets figure this out. So I write a case that makes him think Zealos is SK, yet he wants to lynch me? Why am I suddenly a scumread (the top lynch candidate) him when I have been town all game to him? Why the sudden switch, when he agrees with my reasoning? On September 20 2013 01:27 Sn0_Man wrote: Lol poor debears/pandain. Nobody to vote for now that zealos is gone. Grack bad lynch. Dibbers/Pandain good lynches. Seems like pandain ain't the lynch for now so I'll vote dibbers I guess until he starts catching scum or something. Glad to hear what happens to zealos tho. For your reading convenience: ##Unvote ##Vote: Papa_Smurf And now he votes me? This guy has given no reason for a complete 180 read on me. Why is that? Especially when he agrees with my zealos read and case? That is scum oriented. At this point in the game, you need to find a scumslip (or something major) to turn a complete 180 on a town read with no reasoning. Also, how did sn0 vote day 1? On September 14 2013 07:11 ShiaoPi wrote: Final Day 1 Votecount: strongandbig(0): VayneAuthority(0): WaveofShadow(0): Grackaroni(0): kushm4sta(2): Pandain(0): Old Partner(4): Koshi(0): blubbdavid(5): VayneAuthority, Zealos(4): raynpelikoneet(0): blubbdavid has been lynched! He kept his vote parked on Blubb. On September 13 2013 01:39 Sn0_Man wrote: Doing this in the other thread too but xpost for visibility blah blah blah ##Vote: blubbdavid This was his original reasoning. But, did he ever actually expand on this point? No. Most of his d1 was spent talking on Pandain and other people ##Vote Sn0 | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
 Dibbers scum. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
not a ton of confidence in my reads thouhg. Anyone wanna try to convince me that either of these guys is town? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 18 2013 13:33 Papa_Smurf wrote: @Panda, Grack, Raynp, (sorry oats you think zealos is town so this doesn't apply to you) In reference to the above post of mine on zealos, in the case that you agree with my zealos read Do we want to 1) Lynch a scum with disruptive thread presence (Kush) or 2) Lynch a sk/possible scum with no thread presence in a possible attempt to reduce kp if he is sk (zealos) What happened to this debears? Also why is Sno most suspicious from D1 votes when you earlier said he was the least suspicious? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: Apparently Pandain's case on kush is "he asked GM's about if scum got fakeclaims" and that makes him scum.. ya you are right that case is ridiculous, especially since it makes perfect sense for me to ask that imo. in past games i have tried to use flavor for towns advantage and i thoguht that might be an option here (if there were no fake claims) | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
##vote deberas | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Thats my thing on Pandain. he's doing all this defending stuff which doesn't necessarily make sense as scum, but where's the scumhunting? His ACTIONS are anti-town despite all the defending stuff (which sounds so townie superficially). Dibbers scum because he's checked out of the thread with basement-tier scumhunting and all he wants to do is push kush (town), Zealos (Can't be scum), and now me (because zealos got modkilled). He refuses to contribute to reasonable discussion around pandain and vayne etc. And all of Koshi's reasons for dibbers being scum still stand (Great comments on "how to play", awful unreadable "scumhunting"). | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:20 VayneAuthority wrote: why would debears come out of nowhere and make a case on sn0_man who he knows no one will ever sheep if he's scum? I guess too stupid to be scum WIFOM but i'd be much more inclined to kill grack/pandain. I will only vote pandain to save myself though since my case relies on grack being scum first. Dibbers isn't a bad player. He wouldn't do this crap as town either lol. He does it as anti-town so he can say "Hey look I'm scumhunting". | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
debears/vayne/panda current line of thinking | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 20 2013 04:27 VayneAuthority wrote: I wish I was anti-town id be having a field day in this game, nothing makes sense right now. there's only a few anti-town but everyone coming in with these ninja votes and last second cases and shit is driving me insane There must be at least 3 anti-town left and one of them is dibbers so vote that guy I think. Also pandain but he feels too hard to lynch based on me trying and failing miserably for the last 40ish hours. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9846 Posts
People have been doing shit loads of 180s on their reads this game. Oats just switched his read on me from scum to town within a three minute time frame. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Sn0_Man
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