Golden Sun: The Broken Seal Mini Mafia - Page 117

On September 17 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So, first of all, what do you think of my read on Koshi? And do you still think Grack is scum based on what has happened since the last time you were here?

On September 17 2013 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
i wanna kill vayne now.
So many choices.
So little time.

On September 17 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:


I think it's wrong and this game reminds me a lot more of him in sicilian than persona. You need to go back and read that. He used vivax as a puppet the whole game and got "fake angry" multiple times that game. it's so similar to this. Except in this game, he's using you as his puppet.

I have thought grack was scum for a while now, between what he did day 1 with the subtly asking for people's opinions and stuff before the game was really fleshed out. He wanted to know who he could push as mafia. Then you add in all this fake claiming stuff and it's stupid. doesn't help town at all. As I said earlier that fake fight between him and koshi looked extremely fake so that's the nail in the coffin for me.

don't know who's the 3rd if it's not you but I assume kush/umasi/zealos or something

On September 17 2013 02:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
actually pandain is kinda suspicious too if he's a good player. He had me as a solid townread then once a lot of people start suspecting me he does a complete 180 on me and says he is a "bit suspicious of me" with no reasoning.

what do you think of that rayn?

On September 17 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

But he was not scum in Sicilian. He scumhunted with Vivax first, when Vivax died he scumhunted with me. Every scum we found Koshi shot. I could have totally figured out he was the SK but layabout's check fucked that all up. Could you compare to GoT if you got something to compare because comparing this game to his SK game is not a good comparison, SK needs to find scum too. In my opinion it points more towards him being town here than scum.

I agree that the fake claim was stupid. But as scum, why do it? To save debears (who is not scum according to you)? To save BH? I can't find any other reason for him doing so as scum.

On September 17 2013 02:19 VayneAuthority wrote:


I wasn't in GoT. The only game where I was ever town and he was scum was nuclear mafia and I was the only person that had him as mafia in that game. everyone else believed his naive town approach. feels like the same thing here...he is so obviously scum to me but no one else agrees. really frustrating

On September 17 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:

kush, i just read the games you quoted. I don't see your point tbh.
Can you tell us how exactly his attitude is different?

He actually "insults" (i would not call that as an insult) Hapahauli in his town game a same manner he "insults" other people in his scum game. Both are different from this game imo. Both are similar to Desert and Aperture. You can't just take one quote where he shouts and look at it. When i read the posts in context and read the thread +/- 1 page from that it doesn't look like your case holds water.

If you think debears is scum based on that you need to explain better what you mean. Based on your case and what i just read i don't think you are right.

On September 17 2013 02:28 kushm4sta wrote:


On phone
He insults people directly in this game. He never does that as town. He disagrees with people emphatically as town which is what he was doing with hapa.

Bh lynch is fine today whatever. Scum and town agree on a lynch just makes me mad about it.

I will hopefully write a more convincing meta case today looking at his more recent games. It's just that those were the ones in his profile is why I chose them. L2 update for profile so it's easier to catch you.

Now debears thinks I'm scum? Lol. Never done something like this as scum ever unless it was a bus.

Also Notice hOw panda has nothing to say now that he can't push for my plynch anymore.

On September 17 2013 02:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
well likewise, if SnB is scum here he is not playing like sicilian at all. But aside from the meta differences, he is coming to smart conclusions and transparently trying to analyze the game. He also hasn't just written me off as scum so I'm biased here. Seems like he is one of the few people ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE THE GAME.

I will get back to you on the lurker thing, there's too many replacements in this game and I got nothin' to work with really. Kush seemed scummy to me early because he was martyring and the blubb wagon just barely beat him out but I'm unsure on him now. He hasn't really given much to work with. Zealos seems like he doesn't give a shit about the game at all but that's not really enough to work with either.

On September 17 2013 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
sn0 man, can you name 3 scum and why please