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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2013 14:26 GMT
#161
At least me, i think Clarity, Ange (might be late i guess), marv said he could possibly join when i asked him.. etc..
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 07 2013 14:37 GMT
#162
Nice I joined the Mafia channel and I think I'll join in to play soonish.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 07 2013 14:42 GMT
#163
Is it on already?
I'll be thre in 15.
table for two on a tv tray
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
September 07 2013 15:01 GMT
#164
It's on! Join us on Teamspeak!
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 07 2013 15:37 GMT
#165
Need MOAR to join my games which I host terribly.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 07 2013 16:28 GMT
#166
Pretty fun games, although clearly I have a harder time explaining / following in voice compared to text And my activity goes down so much for some reason..? Maybe just nervousness / language barrier. Still, it was a pretty unique experience and I may try another time with some better focus!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 07 2013 17:18 GMT
#167
The one game I was able to stomach was fun. Probably taking a break from Voice for a bit until DP gets it out of his head that I'm trolling him no matter what the fuck I say.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 07 2013 17:21 GMT
#168
On September 08 2013 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
The one game I was able to stomach was fun. Probably taking a break from Voice for a bit until DP gets it out of his head that I'm trolling him no matter what the fuck I say.


Well. That sucks. But I think you clearly were. Anyway I don;t play all the time. So you can just avoid me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 07 2013 17:23 GMT
#169
Sarcasm =/ Trolling. If that were true you troll every player of every game every time you play. Come on DP
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
September 07 2013 17:24 GMT
#170
On September 08 2013 02:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Sarcasm =/ Trolling. If that were true you troll every player of every game every time you play. Come on DP


Well I felt like you were directly provoking me into getting mad/tunnelling you which is anti town and thus I tunnell you cause i think you are scum.

But it isn't personal at all and I hope you don't take it personally.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 07 2013 17:27 GMT
#171
Nah it's just frustrating and demotivating.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
September 07 2013 17:32 GMT
#172
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 07 2013 18:39 GMT
#173
By the way, I still think I was correct (although I didn't explain it properly) about that situation where raynpelikoneet "fakeclaimed" Cop at night and Oatsmaster claimed Cop after the day had started.

I missed the part where raynpelikoneet had explained it was a joke (and I didn't notice that he had "claimed" during night either). So when Clarity (I think it was Clarity?) started accusing Oatsmaster for fakeclaiming, I basically agreed with him (since I thought raynpelikoneet and Oatsmaster had both claimed and Oatsmaster's pick for the night check made no sense as town - but was the easiest choice as scum since Ange was already dead!).

Soon enough I understood what had actually happened... BUT I defended Oatsmaster because I had made the same mistake as him, and I thought he was town because he had the same line of thinking about the situation as I did. AND it made no sense whatsoever for him to start accusing Oatsmaster unless he had made the same mistake that I had made (even as scum it would just cast unnecessary suspicion on himself). AND if that was the case, his accusation towards Oatsmaster was null at worst and townish in my eyes.

So... I defended him, he flipped scum, I was lynched, I flipped town, GG. I'm not sure if it would have ended up differently had I A) been more active B) explained myself better, or if it was already too late to save myself in any case... BUT what I'm trying to say is that Clarity was originally lynched for a faulty reason (even though he was scum regardless) and I was lynched (mostly) for defending him (which I would do again as town in a similar situation).

Does my explanation make sense? Because that's how I saw the situation, and I think both Clarity and myself were lynched for wrong reasons. I guess this is a good example of why it's more important to be able to convince others with your reasoning instead of just coming up with it on your own (and failing to convey it to others). It was just somehow too difficult to explain all this through voice (and also through a language that I very rarely use for speaking)... I guess that's a good area to improve upon in the future.

(As a sidenote, the reason why I was convinced Clarity was scum in the endgame with me-Ange-Clarity was that Ange started pushing Clarity while Clarity wanted to lynch me. If Ange was scum, she had absolutely zero reason not to hammer me. So I was completely convinced that Clarity was scum, but obviously I made the mistake of voting Clarity right away - opening myself to the attack from Clarity - and overall being pretty silent, making myself even easier of a target.)

(Another sidenote... I rolled town in every game and yet I was lynched in every game, I think? Haha The only game I won was where I was lynched as a vengeful townie and shot Oatsmaster... Gimme bullets!!)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 07 2013 18:44 GMT
#174
scum get lynched for bad reasons all the time.

It's just awkward to talk about, because the guys that lynched will think they were right and the flip validates them and the guy that got lynched will be laughed at because he's "being salty" or w/e and everyone else really doesn't give a shit.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
September 07 2013 18:52 GMT
#175
getting lynched for all the wrong reasons is quite common as scum. on the other hand if some guy* lynches me for shit reasons but always catches me when I'm scum and never lynches me when i'm town i can't really criticize

*: there is nobody like this for me
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#176
I'm also to blame myself of course (being too silent, not explaining myself properly), but... It was just bad reasoning (IMO) to lynch either of us for THAT reason... I'm pretty sure that was the main reason at least (pushing Oatsmaster for Clarity, defending Clarity from that accusation for me). Ends justify the means on lynching Clarity, I guess, but I was also (mostly) lynched because of that... So it was just very lucky that Clarity was scum and unlucky that I was town... But I think both of us would have acted in the same way even if we were both town, so it was at worst anti-town, at best unreliable to lynch us for that reasoning.

Gratz to rayn for cleverly bussing Clarity in that situation though! Me defending Clarity opened a really juicy opportunity for rayn to bus Clarity and then seal the deal with lynching me the next day. I've done the same before in (forum) Mafia as scum - bussing my teammate when a generally "suspicious" townie started defending him. It's a good tactic, I must say.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 07 2013 19:01 GMT
#177
On September 08 2013 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:
getting lynched for all the wrong reasons is quite common as scum. on the other hand if some guy* lynches me for shit reasons but always catches me when I'm scum and never lynches me when i'm town i can't really criticize

*: there is nobody like this for me


This seems pretty... unlikely
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
September 07 2013 19:17 GMT
#178
thanks for hosting those games last night igrok! looks like i have a lot of room for improvement. i think the problem was that regardless of if i was town or scum i found it hard to find something to say. doesn't help matters that it felt unnatural talking over the computer to strangers haha. hopefully i''ll get better with practice!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 07 2013 19:19 GMT
#179
This is my sad situation...

[image loading]

It's pretty clear that my skills in voice Mafia so far are a bit... lacking
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
September 07 2013 19:19 GMT
#180
On September 08 2013 04:17 Bereft wrote:
thanks for hosting those games last night igrok! looks like i have a lot of room for improvement. i think the problem was that regardless of if i was town or scum i found it hard to find something to say. doesn't help matters that it felt unnatural talking over the computer to strangers haha. hopefully i''ll get better with practice!


Same...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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