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Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 15:12 GMT
#858
Dbear

I think we have a decent amount of time left in Day 1.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 15:25 GMT
#861
If there's someone you think is scum you should pursue it. I'm sure you can get hooked up with some town-cred if you have a compelling argument. If it's a highly improbable lynch candidate... whatever, I guess.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 15:28 GMT
#864
I was informed that this would be readable...
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 15:35 GMT
#869
That was for debears.

Just to make sure you know, the lynch isn't too far away. Great things are afoot and all of us have a role to play. Even if you are mafia o.0
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 15:54 GMT
#876
On August 30 2013 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol I wanna lynch sn0 now, why are we caring about peoples feelings instead of lynching mafia???/
How is it unfair if we lynch alak today Sn0?


I don't think it's unfair and I'm still considering it. I really want to hear from Scib and Hapahauli as they are both Hopeless voters who haven't posted in some time.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 21:48 GMT
#1070
I'm here and about to catch up. My laptop is being invaded by fake virus protection programs so I'll be on until the lynch but it might be spotty.

Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:01 GMT
#1090
##Alakaslam

I'm not amenable to lynching syl or Oats. FT lynch is meh, who knows. Maybe Onegu? It's going to depend on what each of them do between now and the lynch.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:02 GMT
#1094
On August 31 2013 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Shoot: marvellosity


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Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:08 GMT
#1101
Has Oats explained his 180 yet? Is that the main point of contention regarding him?
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:18 GMT
#1118
On August 31 2013 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hapa, i strongly think they are both town. I have given my reasons for both of the reads.


Quickly rehash your hope/slam reasoning.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:20 GMT
#1124
uh i think that vote count is a tad fucked
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:34 GMT
#1147
lol lets lynch scib
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:37 GMT
#1157
it's pre flip but I was unnerved by his recent town read on hopeless
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:39 GMT
#1164
and I think oats is town. so what I see is

scib comes in with a calm and collected town read on a guy who everyone wants to kill, and proposes lynching oats which probably wasn't/isn't going to happen.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:40 GMT
#1165
On August 31 2013 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 07:37 Tutankoopa wrote:
it's pre flip but I was unnerved by his recent town read on hopeless


You know that he's the guy who started the case on Hopeless... right?


wtf is your point
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:41 GMT
#1168
On August 31 2013 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 07:37 Tutankoopa wrote:
it's pre flip but I was unnerved by his recent town read on hopeless


You know that he's the guy who started the case on Hopeless... right?


and no, this is incorrect. he may have been the first to make a formal case but the way you described is not how things went down.

Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:44 GMT
#1180
well whatever because until now I'd never though of scib as mafia

Slam>FT>IDK. None of the other lynches are compelling.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 30 2013 22:51 GMT
#1196
omg rayn.

You do not handle last minute lynches by claiming everything possible.
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 31 2013 00:36 GMT
#1223
Oats are you masoned with rayn?
Tutankoopa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States145 Posts
August 31 2013 02:13 GMT
#1226
Onegu is mafia. Alakaslam is probably mafia too but right now I want get the Onegu conversation out of the way. There's a general pattern in Onegu's play, and it has to do with what lynches he's pushed, or rather, not pushed. There are two good examples of what I'm talking about.

Onegu made the following post about debears at the start of the game.

On August 29 2013 20:02 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 19:49 Hapahauli wrote:
Oh @ Onegu

You have two posts commenting on reads so far, but you haven't given any concrete opinions. You've criticized several statements/posts so far but haven't offered anything of your own. Do you have any strong reads any which way right now?



Yes I am leaning scum on dabears, guess I should have been more clear on that if I had to choose . Also from the whole sn0 thing and how rayne reacted made me feel town on him. FT needs to get back in here as he has done nothing. I also agree with rayne that sn0s post is townie.


Several other things happened after that regarding Onegua and debears, but let's come back to those later. The last thing in this storyline was Onegu abandoning his debears lynch in order to propose a lynch on the 2 post coinflip lynch, FT. Why? Up till that point Onegu had never retracted his stance on debears. When I asked about it, Onegu said he changed his mind on debears due to this post. Well.... there's not much alignment indicative information in that response for two reasons. The first is that the debears post in question (Hapa and I talked about it) had already been a talking point so I can;'t exactly credit Onegue for "making a read." The second reason is that Onegu never said anything about dropping debears as a scumread. I think this is pretty fishy, at best it's null.

The second example is far more damning. It relates to yet again, Onegu having a scumread and not considering that read as a lynch option. Here is what Onegu had to say about Hopeless. I think this was around the time when Onegu returned from a moderate posting break.

On August 30 2013 15:46 Onegu wrote:
Ok I got it, I think you are null to slightly town I dont see what hopeless found scummy in you. I think hopeless has a very good chance of flipping scum.



"Hopeless has a very good chance of flipping scum."

What do you do when someone has a good chance of flipping scum? You lynch them! What does Onegu do?

On August 30 2013 16:16 Onegu wrote:
Anyway I have a doctors appointment, and am then going to celebrated my birthday belatedly, when I get back I will look into syl and everyone else. Wtf are you doing FT? Do something or die.

##VOTE:FirmTofu


This post happened 30 minutes after Onegu can be quoted saying that "hopeless has a very good chance of flipping scum." What else does Onegu have to say about Hopeless?

On August 31 2013 03:38 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:22 Hapahauli wrote:
##Unvote

Lynching replacements isn't good the day they get replaced. We shouldn't be lynching Alakaslam today unless he does something very egregiously scummy.

For people voting FT... that's even worse. A coin-flip lynch is going to lead to zero discussion and waste the entirety of Day 1.

Let's find another candidate. Day 1's are made or broken in the last few hours anyway, so let's see who steps up and hunts some scum.



It shouldnt matter he is a replacement, sorry you replaced someone who is scummy tough luck. And why does a FT lynch waste the day? It gets rid of someone who has a good chance at being scum, and its not like everything was wasted the discusion that was made today is still valid.


This obviously came after hopeless dropped out. Onegu's point is that we shouldn't give Alakaslam any leeway for being a replacement. If this is truly Onegu's opinion then I would expect him to still be vocal about considering an Alakaslam lynch, which he wasn't. He made several posts about Hopeless's scumminess throughout D1, but he never showed any interest in lynching him. The same thing goes for the debears read, although that is tricker due to Onegu's non-confirmable explanation.

Summary:

Onegu is not pushing candidates that line up with his scumreads. There was the weirdness with debears, and the multiple instances of Onegu saying that Hopeless is a good lynch, but when it's time to pick a candidate Onegue settles for FT. When Onegu made this decision FT had all of two posts. Why would a townie think one player has a good chance of flipping scum, but then decide to lynch a coinflip lurker who has 2 posts?
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