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marvellosity
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raynpelikoneet
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So you claim you don't want to read the only real accusations against Tutan. You clim you are gonna be useless later on in the game. What gives? | ||
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Tutankoopa
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marvellosity
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Talk to Tuten without pitching a fit that he's not answering your questions how you'd like him to *thumbs up* | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:56 Tutankoopa wrote: Marv, please tell rayn that I'm here if he wants to ask me any questions. I have already told you i do not want to ask you anything. I already tried that and it didn't work. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity
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marvellosity
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sylencia i am interested in the fact that you lean town on Tutankoopa and your reasons for it are the bad cases from Oats and Hopeless (that's reasonable). What's not reasonable is that you are unwilling to comment on anything i have said about him and justifying it by saying "i'm not reading rayn's filter". That is bullshit. If you are unable to read 5 pages of filter you are not gonna be an asset for the town no later than N1 because almost all filters are gonna be 5 pages at then. So you claim you don't want to read the only real accusations against Tutan. You clim you are gonna be useless later on in the game. What gives? Yeah, that was pretty lazy, and I did say "unless I'm missing something". Sounds like I was missing something, so I'll have to go and find it now. Don't go jumping down my throat assuming that I wasn't going to do it if I needed to. In terms of avoiding your filter, my mind makes it so hard for me to concentrate because I've got the preconception that the majority of your posts are spam (only because of what I saw in P4, nothing to do with this game). I read what you say as you say it, but I don't go back and read it again. It's hard. In addition, you're assuming that I'm going to be rereading every filter from start to finish every time I am off to read filters rather than what's new and some old for context. Anyways, you're making me go through your filter for the case so I'll go and do that. | ||
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Sylencia
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have already told you i do not want to ask you anything. I already tried that and it didn't work. I dislike going this route but in regards to all the questions you asked me at the start of the game, I was right and and you were wrong. I don't think you're going over my filter to see if my explanations line up with the thread. Here are some examples, try to read this from my perspective so you can realize how difficult you're being. One of the initial things you harped on for was me making that early post where I dropped Oats as a scum read. Your accusation was that I was scummy for saying shit about Oats without reading the thread. Guess what? I had read the thread in full before that post! How have you managed to remain oblivious to this? I've stated this numerous times. The whole thing is bollocks, because in a hypothetical world where your accusation was correct, there'd be no scum motivation for what I did. Another issue was the smurfing conversation. Here is your direct quote: On August 29 2013 20:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: The way i see it Tutan did attention drawing to his smufiness. That's how i would put it. Why, that's another question. I was drawing attention to it? You're the one who brought up it and kept pressing the issue after I said I didn't care to talk about it. Do you see what I'm talking about? | ||
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Tutankoopa
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
Rayn if you can tell me why Oats is scum without meta then I'd rather hear that. I don't know how much I should be reading into things he did in the early game and him being afk makes him harder to read. As stated earlier he seems like a coinflip lynch. | ||
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marvellosity
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raynpelikoneet
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This is what i ask you at first: What's your thought process between starting and finishing this post? Did you read Oats filter between writing the post? Why? In the start of the post you say something, then you say another thing at the end of it. Why would you not read the whole thread before posting so you are on top of things and not need to change your opinion in the same post? The bolded part is the ultimate question i wanted you to answer. Your answer is: Yes I had read his filter and I changed my mind on a reread. Editing takes effort. Is there anyone in the game who thinks that answers the bolded question? Fine, i try to clarify myself: 2) You didn't really answer my question. Why did you start writing a post before you had read the whole thread? What's the point of doing so because you do not have all the information available? That to me seems like you are contributing to something you can't be called out for later because the information you are contributing to is no more relevant. You answer me: re read what I wrote. You are 100% incorrect about this. Does anyone think the first answer did answer what i asked from Tutankoopa? Because this definitely does not. I try once more: Simple question. Why do you post before you have read the whole thread? You never answered me. These are your answers: Rayn This conversation isn't going to continue until I'm satisfied that you've reread. 2 scenarios. Example 1: A player has X read on Z player. He has not read the thread. He reads the thread changes his mind and then makes a post about how he used to have X read, but now he doesn't. Example 2: What I did. How are those functionally any different? You're getting the same information from me in either case. Does anyone think this answer the question "Why did you post before reading the whole thread"? Because it doesn't. It says there are 2 scenarios that say "person did not read the thread before starting the post". Finally, about a full fucking day after this you say this: Why does that need explaining? Does me doing that make it hard for you to know my reads? No. Does it push any mafia objective? No. So it's just a playstyle choice. I can't explain that any more than I can explain why I had donuts for breakfast, it's just how things played out. And by the way, this is about that Oats thing right? Something you completely missed in my earlier response was that I HAD read the entire thread when I made that post. I changed my mind about Oats on a reread of his filter, which is something I said a long time ago. So you're entire accusation is based on a misunderstanding which I why I stopped responding to you earlier. Why the fuck would you not say this in the first place? "It is a playstyle choise. Does that make me mafia?" It's a perfectly reasonable answer. I wanted to know your reasons behind why you did what you did. You starting to make your post before you have read the whole thread does not make you scum. If you are unable to reason your actions it makes you scum. You dodged the question about reasons behind your actions for a full day, and that is fucking scummy. You could have answered the last thing i quoted in the first place and i would have been perfectly fine with your answer. You decided to dodge the question instead. That's why i think you are scum (amongst other reasons i have pointed out). You did the same thing with every other question of mine, and i do not care to quote them, because it should be obvious for anyone who reads the questions and your answers. Your answers have nothing to do with my questions. They flip-flop around the matter i am talking about and at best they are really wishy-washy. You are making me waste posts on asking you same things over and over again and then justifying not answering by "read what i wrote". Guess what. I have read what you answered and nothing in your answers makes sense to me because you are not giving answers to what i asked. | ||
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Tutankoopa
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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marvellosity
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Tutankoopa
United States145 Posts
On August 30 2013 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am going to give one example of the Oats thingy i pointed out. And this will be the last time i am going to do it. This is what i ask you at first: The bolded part is the ultimate question i wanted you to answer. Your answer is: Is there anyone in the game who thinks that answers the bolded question? Let's break it down. Direct quotes. Rayne: Did you read Oats filter between writing the post?... etc... Why would you not read the whole thread before posting so you are on top of things and not need to change your opinion in the same post? Tutenkoopa: Yes I had read his filter and I changed my mind on a reread. ........ You ask if I'd read his filter. I said I had. Because I had read his filter, I cannot explain to you why I posted without reading his filter. Yet you keep asking about my motivations for declaring a scum read on Oats without reading his filter. What? On August 30 2013 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: So someone being unable / unwilling to explain his motives behind his actions makes them town. I clearly do not know how to play this game.. You're asking me to explain motivations for something I didn't do! | ||
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