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debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#565
On August 30 2013 06:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Hell can anyone comment on my Syl case above? I'm starting to agree with myself more and more :3


Get on the love train Hapa
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 29 2013 22:54 GMT
#569
On August 30 2013 07:41 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 07:38 debears wrote:
On August 30 2013 06:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Hell can anyone comment on my Syl case above? I'm starting to agree with myself more and more :3


Get on the love train Hapa


xD

I have scum-reads on both Syl and Hopeless at this point. The problem is that they're not talking enough >>


You do raise what seem like valid points on Hopeless. I'm sticking with Syl since I've actually read his stuff.

The one thing about Onegu is that he makes that summary post for his first post, which is fine. Yet, he doesn't hit the main events. It seems to me like he was nitpicking stuff he could just easily chime in about without further exploring. On the other side, his location makes it hard to communicate. And apparently he does this most games. -.-

I would think one of Onegu/Syl is scum.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 03:56 GMT
#654
@Hapa

Based on your posts, I got these reads from you

yam - town
marv -town
scribs - town
raynp - town

onegu - slight town?

me - null?
tutan - ?
syl - ?

hopeless- scum

that right?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 04:06 GMT
#655
Ok, here's what I see on hopeless. First, he starts off with a scum read on TK from withdrawing the early vote on raynp/

Next, he states this as the reason

On August 30 2013 02:49 Hopeless1der wrote:
rayn...i just DO NOT understand how you come to a scum read on me. My words on Sno were pure hypothetical "why would you ever do that as scum?"
I'm still harping on TK because, like you, I think he's scum and also that he is misrepresenting my reasons for voting him.


His whole deal with the early policy vote stuff was weird, but you can say that he was just trying to get something going. I'd say it could be motivated either way.

As far as remembering my last game with hopeless (Mario mini), hopeless was also lurker who was offensive with those accusing him (which is similar to this game). However, he pulled more OMGUS against me (we were both town) when I kept going on him. That is quite a bit different than this game, despite all the people on him.

This post also rubs me the wrong way

On August 30 2013 07:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 06:57 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Hopeless + TK

Where'd you both run off to?

Painting my room =\
K question for TK then. Why did you say only one of Yamato/me would be scum?
Show nested quote +
On Augusta 29 2013 11:01 Tutankoopa wrote:
Bout to head out for a few hours. For now all that really bothers me is hopeless, yamato, and oats in that specific order. Everything else seems fairly harmless and I'm not seeing much scumminess in the rayn/scib/whoever debate. I'm worried about yamato because what he's posted so far could very easily be mafia taking a dump in the thread and throwing bad looks at people who smell his shit. There's nothing I can pinpoint in Hopeless' filter, but a few of his posts have given me weird vibes. I guess I'm not convinced that he really thinks I or anyone else could be mafia. I just now looked at Oat's filter and I was unable to see what I thought I saw earlier, so scratch him from my list.

My guess at who's mafia is 1 out of, but probably not both hopeless/yamato, and the rest are people that haven't posted.

Surely you have more than they're weird/shitting on the thread? More recent scumreads perhaps?
You never actually stated your own preference when asking Hapa about debears:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 05:29 Tutankoopa wrote:
You're obviously the worst person to ask this but would you have still unvoted debears about now had I not asked you that question?

What are your thoughts on debears atm?
Also, sorry I'm not as forthcoming with my own thoughts at the moment save for my tunnel. I'll reread in a couple hours and go from there.


That bolded part makes me think Hopeless isn't reading the thread very well. That post by TK was illustrating to me that he thought the post quoted made me look more town. I would think a town hopeless would notice that, although it could just be heavy tunnel vision.

While I can see the reasoning for a scum hopeless, I still see enough town tendencies from last time I played with him (insulting, tunnel) to where I would need to see more to vote him. We'll see what the next 12 hours bring
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:18 GMT
#803
On August 30 2013 19:46 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 17:22 Tutankoopa wrote:
Syl I think there are things more deserving of your attention than what you chose to post about. What are your thoughts regarding thread sentiment, and has anything stuck out at you from any of the major discussions?


In regards to the players whom I've played with before, nothing really sticks out as being out of the ordinary from when they've been town. The only thing I'm concerned about going into D1 lynch is that we've spread ourselves thin on lynch targets for the day. It's fine that we're suspecting each other but if everyone suspects someone else then we're not going to be able to coordinate a proper lynch and scum can manipulate us rather easily. I doubt this would ever pass but considering we have 5 people with votes on them at the moment - would it be wrong to suggest that we stick to the 5 listed and consolidate on them instead?

Note: This doesn't mean that we completely ignore the rest of the town, but considering there's only about 12 hours left in the day, those cases can be put forward N1 onwards. This will also help us prevent unwanted last minute bandwagons on someone completely irrelevant and we remain focused on the main suspects.

Pretty sure I went off topic there, but it's something I was considering before.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 18:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am far interested in Sylencia's last post than Onegu.


What are you interested in?


This post makes me want to kill you with fire....just saying

Your recent posts haven't been that great
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:25 GMT
#811
On August 30 2013 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can someone look at what i asked Tutan about his question to Hopeless?
I did not understand anything he said and how that was relevant to my question.

Am i just being stupid and not able to understand what people say?


You are being stupid. Stop distracting us from looking at legimate lynch targets

Take another look at Onegu and Syl. They are both posting and I don't like their posts.

Hopeless....is welll.....hopeless i suppose. The dude isn't posting and he's writing himself a death sentence
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:28 GMT
#814
On August 30 2013 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:04 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not thrilled with a Syl lynch. I've never seen him post his much, ever. Something tells me he wouldn't pick his scum game to start tryharding.

Hopeless I still have yet to read, but honestly FT is not a terrible lynch.


Do it please.

FT isn't a terrible lynch in that we're not losing anything by killing him and he might well be mafia, but it's terribly, terribly coinflippy.


Eh marv I'd rather hope we have a vig to handle that. That, and I would expect scum to have some sort of thread presence.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:34 GMT
#821
@Hapa

Can you remind me after lynch of something I need to talk to you about? A certain person is doing something off of his normal town game (at least I think he is). I don't think I would be able to get him lynched at this point.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:45 GMT
#834
On August 30 2013 23:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 23:28 debears wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:04 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not thrilled with a Syl lynch. I've never seen him post his much, ever. Something tells me he wouldn't pick his scum game to start tryharding.

Hopeless I still have yet to read, but honestly FT is not a terrible lynch.


Do it please.

FT isn't a terrible lynch in that we're not losing anything by killing him and he might well be mafia, but it's terribly, terribly coinflippy.


Eh marv I'd rather hope we have a vig to handle that. That, and I would expect scum to have some sort of thread presence.


What part of terribly terribly coinflippy did you take to mean I thought he was a good lynch for today?


I never said that. Just chipping in :D
And just in case someone else like Onegu goes "Wow! that's a great idea marv!"
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:48 GMT
#838
On August 30 2013 23:42 Tutankoopa wrote:
Yeah, sno's town.


I kinda got that feeling after that biggish post from sn0 just above
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:50 GMT
#843
Raynp

This is obnoxious if you are town. Why are you focusing on someone we are very unlikely to lynch when we have muchhhhhhh better candidates in Onegu, Syl, Slammer, Oats?

Btw, I am taking scribs off my lynch list and putting him as null/slight town. His latest posting be better doh
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 14:53 GMT
#848
On August 30 2013 23:50 yamato77 wrote:
##Vote: FirmTofu

Heads or Tails?


Yamato. Take a look at the filters of Onegu, Syl, Hopeless, and Oats. Give me a quick gut read on which is scum. Then build a case on that person.

Start playing

My ranking

1) Syl
2) Hopeless
3) Onegu/Oats

@Hapa and Marv

I can't remember. Doesn't yamato usually check out of games once he is considered town (when he is town)?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 15:21 GMT
#859
On August 31 2013 00:12 Tutankoopa wrote:
Dbear

I think we have a decent amount of time left in Day 1.


What exactly is that a response to?

Me saying my 3 main?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 18:00 GMT
#880
On August 30 2013 23:59 marvellosity wrote:
in short, can yamato be lazy as town? yes. is it likely he's being lazy mafia? not after the big ting-tong last night.


Yeah I know what you mean. It's just I sware he's gone lazy every time he becomes town in people's eyes when he is town. Not sure about his mafia though
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 18:02 GMT
#881
On August 31 2013 00:25 Tutankoopa wrote:
If there's someone you think is scum you should pursue it. I'm sure you can get hooked up with some town-cred if you have a compelling argument. If it's a highly improbable lynch candidate... whatever, I guess.


Eh it's a little bit of meta then a little bit of gameplay. I'd say it's highly improbable lynch for now, especially with the scummy lurk city we got going on
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 18:06 GMT
#883
On August 31 2013 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
totally fine with an alak lynch, complaining about the post count and stuff to read and has no idea where to find scum and is relying on town to give him targets.


With the amount of crap in this thread, it is understandable, especially with only 8 hours. I'd say judge him on hopeless's posts, which do have the merit for a lynch.

The VT claim I never like, but who knows why he did it. Seems like axle lol
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 18:24 GMT
#890
On August 29 2013 09:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2013 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 29 2013 09:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 29 2013 09:06 Tutankoopa wrote:
On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dont think scum could be as stupid as rayn 1 in this regard. Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep 2 onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats.


1. Can you clarify what you found to be stupid about rayn's play?
2. When you saw my vote, did you think I was seriously going to push for rayn's lynch on D1?

Also, you say rayn's play is stupid yet you also claim to not understand the policy lynch. Explain?


1) Scum are more than capable of making Sn0's OP, which in and of itself is a stupid reason for rayn to come up with a town read. However, the part that I felt to be most stupid is that if Rayn is scum, he's revealed himself in all of 2 posts.
2) It doesn't matter what you were planning to do, I see your actions as scummy and I've voted accordingly. Your initial vote was not entirely damning. Dropping things off here + Show Spoiler +
On August 29 2013 08:49 Tutankoopa wrote:
actually nvm rayn

##unvote

just when you seemed to have gotten rolling does not strike me as town motivated.

"Also") Was stupid the policy? Iuno...

I actually would like you to explain me why would scum make a post Sn0 did?
Think for a moment you are scum, would you do that? Think for a moment you would. Why would you do that?


Demonstrates I'm "actively reading", albeit it's flavor text. Also a moderate amount of paranoia to look like I'm scared of all the things. Furthermore, errant setup speculation is definitely something mafia wants to do to look like they're contributing. As an OP, its a null post. If he were to make that type of post tomorrow, I'd call him scum on the spot.


Hmmm something I just thought of. Why would hopeless as town target only TK for setup speculation? Why not also scribs who did similar twice?

Kinda odd to pick out only one blemished apple in a bunch when there is a second
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 18:40 GMT
#899
Onegu brings up a decent point on Syl pushing him on the FT lynch
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 19:08 GMT
#911
On August 31 2013 04:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Man I gotta look at Syl again o.O


Love train

syl has been uninvolved with many main events in his posts. Doesnt seem like he has been trying to figure out thread happenings
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
August 30 2013 20:05 GMT
#960
lynch is in three hours right?

I might do my dark horse candidate by then if we cant get the syl lynch

btw raynp. Would you be willing to put your life on the line if you got the tk lynch and he was town?
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