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Tutankoopa
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On August 30 2013 07:30 Hapahauli wrote: TK, what do you make of Hopeless's tunnel on you. You've been the victim of it so far, but I'm somewhat surprised you haven't commented on your thoughts of his allignment yet. Have I not said I think it's pretty scummy? If not then... yeah. He's my top suspect but that's qualified by my "investigation" on him not quite being over yet. The only times I've gotten any town vibes from Hopeless were a few bits from his latest posts. If not for those I'd probably be voting for him right now. | ||
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On August 30 2013 09:24 sciberbia wrote: 2) Subtle contradiction / shift in emphasis At the beginning of the game, hopeless seems to be trying to make TK's first vote look bad: + Show Spoiler [hopeless] + On August 29 2013 08:55 Hopeless1der wrote: I dont think scum could be as stupid as rayn in this regard. Tutan was attempting to justify a sheep onto an unknown policy and has since changed his mind...I'm glad I sheeped Oats. On August 29 2013 09:14 Hopeless1der wrote: 1) Scum are more than capable of making Sn0's OP, which in and of itself is a stupid reason for rayn to come up with a town read. However, the part that I felt to be most stupid is that if Rayn is scum, he's revealed himself in all of 2 posts. 2) It doesn't matter what you were planning to do, I see your actions as scummy and I've voted accordingly. Your initial vote was not entirely damning. Dropping things off here + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2013 08:49 Tutankoopa wrote: actually nvm rayn ##unvote "Also") Was stupid the policy? Iuno... Hopeless doesn't outright say it, but he went out of his way to mention how TK's vote was a "sheep on some uknown policy" rather than a "troll vote" and then he says the vote post wasn't "completely damning" which implies it is still somewhat damning. But recently he says he had no problem at all with the initial troll vote from TK and that his read on TK was a total null following that vote. It doesn't really match up for me, and this is the type of subtle shift that I believe is a fairly reliable scumtell. I like this the most out of that post. This is something I brought up earlier and it sorta got ignored. This whole time hopeless has not been very forthright about exactly how seriously he was taking my first vote. He's explicitly said that he both did and didn't think that I was trying to push a policy lynch. Is there anything in my filter that makes anyone think that I've ever seriously wanted to lynch rayn? Or even that I've ever thought he's scum? No, so I don't know what the point of the case against me is. I dropped a case that was never actually a case, and because I didn't fully explain why I'm mafia? | ||
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On August 30 2013 09:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I still do not find your answers to me reasonable but there is no point asking the questions again because for some reason you are not willing to answer me. Well it's a new day, lets try again. Just a heads up, if you keep asking the same questions over and over without reading my responses, this isn't going to work. | ||
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I'm making a big pretty big effort to try and be civil, you know how tit for tat works don't you? | ||
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On August 30 2013 09:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I can give you an example: Me: "Why do you post before reading the whole thread" You: "I started my post before reading the thread, then read a filter and added something in my post" wtf? That's not an answer to "why", that is telling what you did. The rest of this can be found in my filter. Why does that need explaining? Does me doing that make it hard for you to know my reads? No. Does it push any mafia objective? No. So it's just a playstyle choice. I can't explain that any more than I can explain why I had donuts for breakfast, it's just how things played out. And by the way, this is about that Oats thing right? Something you completely missed in my earlier response was that I HAD read the entire thread when I made that post. I changed my mind about Oats on a reread of his filter, which is something I said a long time ago. So you're entire accusation is based on a misunderstanding which I why I stopped responding to you earlier. | ||
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On August 30 2013 14:39 Hapahauli wrote: I really want to see a more complete picture of your reads. Rayn does have a point when he says your body of analysis is lacking so far. I could write up a bunch of stuff about town reads, but do you want to hear that? I've been talking about and to hopeless since the 2nd hour of the game. I have voiced suspicions on other people but they have been varying degrees of AFK. My reads match yours except for one or two differences. (Same for marv's reads I believe, I haven't read his filter lately.) You probably don't need me to tell you my town reads, you should know that from reading my filter. Right now I am working with the idea that all the mafia are in the following group. *Sylencia -Oatsmaster FirmTofu -Onegu **debears --Hopeless1der ***marvellosity * means that I think they're probably town but I need to see their play past D1 to come to a conclusion - means I think they have at least a decent chance of flipping red Hopeless is pretty scummy and the reasons why are public knowledge. When I read Onegu I don't see what he's doing, I don't see the purpose in his play. I asked him a question that hasn't been followed up on. An Oat's lynch is a coinflip and it will remain one until he returns to the thread. He had a weird start with his push on myself, and right as he was picking up steam he left the thread. | ||
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.....  .....But i know it's there. | ||
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I don't know, I guess I'm waiting for you to bring something productive AND original to the thread. | ||
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What happened to your read on debears? I haven't seen anything that suggests a retraction of your scum read, but you aren't talking about him right now. You're saying that hopeless is the scummiest, and you said FT deserves to be lynched but "maybe not today." Earlier it looked like you were pretty set on your debears read. Why is debears not one of your talking points when we discuss lynch options? Your stances on debears throughout this game have been.... confusing. | ||
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