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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 10:03 GMT
#2851
No one will know.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 10:20 GMT
#2855
On September 12 2013 19:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gg Onegu.
bg Sno and yamato.


?

Yamato turned the game around and you guys nearly lynched onegu, only to be stopped by sn0.
Really don't understand why you think he played a bad game.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 10:28 GMT
#2858
On September 12 2013 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
When a mafia slips as hard as Onegu did in mylo, culpability rests with every townie alive, tbf.


Yeah, perhaps true.

If I had to make a list yamato would sit above sn0 and rayn though. Simply for at least trying to figure the game out rather than confirmation biasing his way to the finish line.
Some good play from both sides.

Maybe we should have a discussions about the replacement and whether it was appropriate or ill-advised?
I know marv's opinion and I think I know my own but I'd like to hear others.
Is it okay to replace the main lynch candidate 8 hours before lynch? Or is that a no under every circumstance?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 12:07 GMT
#2885
On September 12 2013 20:55 marvellosity wrote:
Towns will lynch players like you on d1 for all eternity.

Which is why it's a townie's responsibility to not play badly.


Basically this. No one should play day 1 that way, and if it does happen it should be a policy lynch.
We need to get over people playing that way before day 1s will improve.

So FT, you're part of the problem, not the people lynching you.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 12:39 GMT
#2893
On September 12 2013 21:34 Aquanim wrote:
Question: If somebody's day 1 play leaves them at about null in terms of alignment, and they are of about average skill, doesn't that make them at worst an average lynch? I mean, given that you have to lynch someone for the game to move forward, lynching somebody who has an average likelihood to flip scum doesn't seem that bad.

(By 'average likelihood' I mean a probability equal to the number of scum divided by the total number of players.)

(The other criteria is 'does lynching them tell you anything in the case they flip town', which I won't comment on.)


I think there is much to do on day 1, regardless of what others say. No one plays perfectly, and that includes scum.
People who think day 1 is useless are sorely mistaken, I think it sets the tone for the rest of the game, regardless of town/scum getting lynched.

That said, an "average" lynch is pretty decent on day 1. At the very least, town should never lynch an outspoken (but wrong) player. A semi-lurker that doesn't look townie is a decent target.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 12:51 GMT
#2899
I was actually very curious about the "I'm just looking at hapa and marv today" approach.
People jumped on it as terrible straight away but I thought it had some merit to it.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 12:54 GMT
#2901
I think the problem is you'll never figure marv out d1, let alone convince people to lynch him.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 13:13:49
September 12 2013 13:11 GMT
#2907
There's nothing more pointless as either alignment than wasting time trying to convince people you're town.

After having that statement above written down and thinking about it I'm not sure I still think so but..... bleh
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 19:05:03
September 12 2013 19:04 GMT
#2921
Oooh, ooh, judge my sig next!

On September 13 2013 02:29 Papa_Smurf wrote:
wait

RAYNP NEVER GOT SHOT?


Correct. Although I'm not sure if he simple assumed he got shot or if he was willingly fakeclaiming. I wouldn't be surprised by either.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 19:22 GMT
#2924
On September 13 2013 04:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
He was probably trying to get shot again.
Probably.

+ Show Spoiler +
my sig > your sig


That would make more sense if he didn't try to lynch debears for a while for lying about getting shot n1.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 21:53 GMT
#2933
townies have a hard time scumhunting when they have to wrap their head around fakeclaims. You draw all the attention to yourself and make it easy for scum to hide by calling you bad.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 22:07 GMT
#2935
Scum didn't attack you, they didn't have to. They didn't have to do anything. That's everyones point
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 22:16 GMT
#2937
I never said you ruined the game. I'm just saying fakeclaims should be used sparingly.
I'm saying you disrupted town flow and although I can't prove that it made things worse for town, it probably did.
Just my opinion.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 22:19 GMT
#2938
Here, have a waffle falling over.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 12 2013 23:04 GMT
#2943
Here's the thing. In each case the fakeclaim wasn't really necessary and was very reckless. If Oats was scum (and don't tell me you were 100% sure) you would've lost the game for town.
If you can't convince town to not lynch oats, a fakeclaim will delay it for a cycle but he'll likely get lynched anyway and you will be under more scrutiny as well. As for the vet claim, you could have simply claimed vet, rather than claiming to have been shot.

The sk claim was fine although not really believable, worth a shot.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 13 2013 00:13 GMT
#2950
I was saying if he was gonna claim vet there was no point in lying about the shot. Claiming vet in itself is almost never correct.
Anyway rayn is just repeating himself and telling people they're not listening so I'm kinda done with the subject really.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 13 2013 00:50 GMT
#2952
Hapa any thoughts on the day 1 replacement on the main lynch target?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 13 2013 01:12 GMT
#2959
On September 13 2013 10:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay really, i am unable to explain myself. I see how fucking terrible my last post looks like. I have a game to play, i am learnign. Thanks for your input, especially people who said more than "you are fucking terrible, go home" :D


Everyone said more than that :s
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 13 2013 13:44 GMT
#2967
I liked the setup, it favored scumhunting over power role stuff. I imagine it makes games last longer on average due to the balancing nature of the water mechanic.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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