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On September 12 2013 03:18 Dandel Ion wrote:
Votecount:
yamato (2): raynpelikan, sno_man, yamato, Onegu, rayn, sno_man
Onegu (0): yamato, rayn
Sn0_Man (2): Onegu, rayn, yamato, Onegu
No-lynch (0): yamato, rayn, Sno_Man
Not voting (0):
yamato77 is currently on the stairway to heaven
+ Show Spoiler [day 3 final votecount] +Vote Count raynpelikoneet (0) debears yamato77Hapahauli (1) raynpelikoneet marvellosity yamato77 (0) raynpelikoneetmarvellosity (7) raynpelikoneet thrawn2112 yamato77 Sylencia raynpelikoneet Onegu Sn0_Man Hapahauli Sn0_Man Sylencia (0) raynpelikoneet Onegu Hapahauli Sn0_Mannot voting (0)
+ Show Spoiler [day 2 final votecount] +Vote Count Onegu (0) Tutankoopamarvellosity (0) raynpelikoneetdebears (0) raynpelikoneetraynpelikoneet (0) debearsAlakaslam (4) Oatsmaster Sylencia raynpelikoneet Onegu marvellosity raynpelikoneet Oatsmaster (6) sciberbia debears sn0_Man Hapahauli Tutankoopa marvellosity Hapahauli (1) yamato77 raynpelikoneetnot voting (1) alakaslam
+ Show Spoiler [day 1 final votecount] +Vote Count Sn0_Man (0) raynpelikoneetraynpelikoneet (0) yamato77 tutankoopa tutankoopa (2) Oatsmaster Alakaslam raynpelikoneet FirmTofu raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneetSciberbia (0) sn0_Man raynpelikoneet debearsmarvellosity (0) yamato77debears (0) HapahauliSylencia (0) debears raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet Hapahauli yamato77yamato (0) marvellosityAlakaslam (2) sciberbia Hapahauli Oatsmaster Sn0_Man marvellosity Tutankoopa yamato77 FirmTofu (8) Onegu yamato77 Onegu Oatsmaster marvellosity SnO_Man debears Hapahauli sciberbia raynpelikoneet Onegu (1) Sylencia Oatsmaster (0) sciberbia Hapahauli debearsnot voting (0)
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Ofcourse
Just practicing what I preach. Nothing worse than not remembering what page that votecount is on and filtering the host, but shit it's not here I guess the cohost posted that.... Okay where did the cohost first post. Page 2, okay go there, click his filter, go to the last page of his filter AHA there's the votecount.
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Bump.
The only time I've heard the term aquifer before is in dwarf fortress.
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On August 25 2013 21:44 BAdGer_ wrote:After looking through the guides on forum mafia it doesn't seem that lack of forum mafia experience should be such an impediment as long as I'm on the thread and contributing during the day/night times Unless this is an extremely serious game and the mod feels I'm completely out of mind 
Nope you're fine. As dandel said as long as you're sure. Mafia takes a lot of time to play decently, and the first game is always a learning experience. If ya roll town post concisely and transparently and even if you're wrong about everything people should recognize that you are town, if you roll scum just ask your scumbuddies what to do :D
Good luck!
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On August 28 2013 00:08 marvellosity wrote:
Kinda tempted to play although I'd undoubtedly be terrible
do et do et do et
Everyone peer pressure this guy, quick
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On August 28 2013 01:03 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2013 00:08 marvellosity wrote:
Kinda tempted to play although I'd undoubtedly be terrible Believe in yourself marv
I remember you telling people to believe in themselves and BE CONFIDENT.
And you were scum.
##vote debears
edit: found it! + Show Spoiler +On October 26 2012 06:43 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 01:22 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 26 2012 01:20 Clarity_nl wrote:On October 26 2012 01:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
As I get Ninja'd, a wild Clarity appears. Will be active from now on, just didn't have it in the back of my head to check TL a lot. Now that the game has started I will basically be checking as much as possible. Well, I'm sure you have more thoughts than just a FoS on debears for "advocating chaos" So, how about you present those for now. I think "advocating chaos" is actually a good argument on its own, however.... + Show Spoiler [Gathered quotes] +On October 25 2012 10:26 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 10:08 Dandel Ion wrote:On October 25 2012 10:02 Inigmaticalism wrote:For lurking I think it seems even more of an issue in Newbie games than regular games because too many lurkers results in mafia wins most of the time in the Newbie games I looked at. That said, if we get any confirmed mafia I'll always vote confirmed mafias over suspicious lurkers. Btw Im a noob ...  That goes without saying. Having a confirmed scum can be hard though.. And is next to impossible day 1 (since no possible DT checks) unless there is a serious slip. That is why policy lynches day 1 can end up being a necessity. That said, I'm going to sleep. See you in a few hours. What are you saying here exactly? Policy lynches are by no means a necessity. If we are confident and push reads, like dp did last game, then the scum will show. Why do you lack the confidence of catching scum d1?FOS dandelBtw guys officially postjng from phone for rest of night. Tell me if something gets messes up and u can't read On October 25 2012 11:39 debears wrote:
I might be. But, consider this. How did that slip from kush come about? Darthpunks heavy pressure.....duh. policy lynches, on the other hand, are usually caused by passivity or something like a claim. Besides, its fairly easy to discuss policy lynches. Its not easy to be confident. I learned my mistake last game. I didn't stick to a read til the SDM case. I basically said screw it and went with it. Where did that confidence get me? On October 25 2012 13:15 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 12:00 Rad wrote:On October 25 2012 11:39 debears wrote:
I might be. But, consider this. How did that slip from kush come about? Darthpunks heavy pressure.....duh. policy lynches, on the other hand, are usually caused by passivity or something like a claim. Besides, its fairly easy to discuss policy lynches. Its not easy to be confident. I learned my mistake last game. I didn't stick to a read til the SDM case. I basically said screw it and went with it. Where did that confidence get me? You're being especially confusing right now, at least for me. Dan basically said sure, if we have a confirmed mafia d1 (which he claims would be difficult without a major slip), lynch, otherwise it might be necessary to policy lynch. This seems reasonable. Your statement, however, is extremely confusing. Without knowing your previous game in depth, none of what I quoted above means anything. Can you please explain more briefly/clearly "where your confidence got you"? Also, what does your previous confidence have to do with any potential scenario for a d1 lynch? Ok this phone posting iw hard. Forgive th disorganization. Confidence has everything to do with d1. If everyone is confident and pushes cases, then scum will be forced to do the same. That is the key. We need to force scumcto contribute early My confidence led to me making a game winning case on arguably the most townie looking player (who was the last scum) On October 25 2012 13:18 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 12:53 Djodref wrote:On October 25 2012 10:30 debears wrote:On October 25 2012 09:52 Djodref wrote:On October 25 2012 09:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@ "Uncle" Dan
I am of the opinion that inactive players are a good candidate for lynching. There is too much mystery involved with someone whose only contribution to the thread is nonexistent.
In regards to the noobie-card policy: I have to say that claiming inexperience is a terrible defense against any accusation. Djo in the last newbie game made several references to him being a noob (and being town), and it only served to make him seem suspicious to other players.
You are sure taking lurker policy lynch seriously. Would you explain us at which point suspicious players become better lynch candidates than inactive players ? Djo, why did you suddenly drop this after cheesecake responded? Also, why did you interpret his post as taking lurker policy "so seriously" when he was respondjng to a question? @debearsThe part I've bolded in Cheese's post was a comment about dandel's post you have picked on. It was not related to the part where he was answering your questions. He didn't mention any other good candidates for lynching than inactive players so I thought he wanted to lynch based on lurker policy lynch today. But he has clarified his position since then. Very well djo. I found the wording of seriously strong for your post. Can you clarify why you have a sudden 180 on confidence on day 1 from your last game as town? On October 25 2012 13:24 debears wrote:
Rad,
I understand what you're saying. However, you are misinterpretjng my words. I'm not saying go on a tunneling spree. I'm saying have the confidence to make a case on anyone and pursue that case until you find that person town or someone else more scummy On October 25 2012 13:33 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 13:27 Rad wrote:On October 25 2012 13:23 Djodref wrote:
I've realized that in my last newbie game. Not being confident led me to write wish-washy posts and it is not good for general town mentality.
Also I like DarthPunk style with his early heavy pressure. Pretty newbie scums can slip very easy, kush or not kush.
Plus I had some difficulties in my last mafia games to post properly when people where directly pressure me. Why even think about artificial confidence though? Why is the concept of confidence even something to be considered beyond "if you're confident, push your case!" That's all confidence is good for. Artificial confidence does nothing. I get the point of "try to be more confident in your reads" or something to that extent, but I don't understand what's good about having confidence in pushing for a d1 scum lynch instead of lynching a lurker. We should do whatever we think is best at that point, not necessarily 1 thing or the other. Why are you so focused on lynching a lurker over a scumread right now imo lurker lynches are last resorts to scumreads. If a lurker has a scumread, that's a bonus. Why do you keep pressing this "artificial confidence" thing when newbie games are notorious for lurking (usually caused by fear/lack of confidence) and lack of confidence? On October 25 2012 13:45 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2012 13:27 Rad wrote:On October 25 2012 13:23 Djodref wrote:
I've realized that in my last newbie game. Not being confident led me to write wish-washy posts and it is not good for general town mentality.
Also I like DarthPunk style with his early heavy pressure. Pretty newbie scums can slip very easy, kush or not kush.
Plus I had some difficulties in my last mafia games to post properly when people where directly pressure me. Why even think about artificial confidence though? Why is the concept of confidence even something to be considered beyond "if you're confident, push your case!" That's all confidence is good for. Artificial confidence does nothing. I ge t the point of "try to be more confident in your reads" or something to that extent, but I don't understand what's good about having confidence in pushing for a d1 scum lynch instead of lynching a lurker. We should do whatever we think is best at that point, not necessarily 1 thing or the other. That is the statement I'm talking about. Am i missing something here? Can someone help me out? You don't understand having confidence to pusb d1 scum reads over lurkers?
What do scum want? Easy lynchs. Who are easy lynches? Lurkers.FOS Rad On October 25 2012 13:48 debears wrote:
Actually, that's a scumslip
##Vote Rad "If we are confident and push reads, like dp did last game, then the scum will show. Why do you lack the confidence of catching scum d1?" First mention of the term confident"Its not easy to be confident. I learned my mistake last game. I didn't stick to a read til the SDM case. I basically said screw it and went with it. Where did that confidence get me?" Second, trying to enforce that being confident is a good thing"My confidence led to me making a game winning case on arguably the most townie looking player (who was the last scum)" Same story"Can you clarify why you have a sudden 180 on confidence on day 1 from your last game as town?" Someone "lacks confidence", better ask insinuating questions"have the confidence to make a case on anyone and pursue that case until you find that person town or someone else more scummy" Yeah, confidence!"newbie games are notorious for lurking (usually caused by fear/lack of confidence) and lack of confidence?" Guys, you just don't get it, be confident!"You don't understand having confidence to pusb d1 scum reads over lurkers? What do scum want? Easy lynchs. Who are easy lynches? Lurkers. Actually, that's a scumslip ##Vote Rad" Using backwards logic, followed by casting his vote, which he later withdrew without explaining
It's easy to retort: What do townies want? Active town. What doesn't contribute to an active town? Lurkers.
We never see him use the word confident again after he casts his voteShow nested quote +On October 26 2012 01:21 debears wrote:
Ok. But what individually makes us stand out as scum?
I'm going to reread the thread a couple of times tonight and figure this all out.
##Unvote No explanation, nothing, just withdraws his vote that he so casually cast. The whole confidence thing is weird to me. He has a thematic history of posting in this thread, as if it's planned out. If he planned it out as scum, his actions make sense. Trying to appeal to your emotions, trying to turn the word confidence into his own little buzzword. If he planned it out as town, actually trying to help the town think critically and relentless towards possible scum, why would he vote for Rad, who has made decent points and questioned people? Let me ask everyone this: Who is more likely to plan out how they will behave day 1, town or scum?
Look at all that red I used. Clearly I was right
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On August 28 2013 04:13 Sn0_Man wrote:
Wat a great deadline btw. Its gonna be nice being around for that lol.
Is it terrible that I had to look up where you're from?
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On August 28 2013 06:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
I once told somebody lesotho is in south africa and he responded with "lol u r dumb south africa is a country, not an area. it's in south america!"
#lesothostories
Wat. It's in Africa, right? I could've sworn it was in Africa last time I checked (wasn't that long ago)
Neat fact: South African is remarkably similar to Dutch. Because colonies.
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I was under the impression Afrikaans was the main one 
I'm not a very worldly person. THERE I SAID IT, ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!
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Sn0_Man has been frowned upon by the gods mods.
marvellosity has willingly been forced to join the game
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One more! First come first serve.
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raynpelikoneet (0) yamato77 tutankoopa
tutankoopa (3) Oatsmaster Hopeless1der raynpelikoneet
Sciberbia (1) sn0_Man raynpelikoneet debears
marvellosity (1) yamato77
not voting (8) sciberbia Sylencia FirmTofu Onegu sn0_Man Hapahauli tutankoopa marvellosity
tutankoopa is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone
On August 29 2013 13:20 debears wrote:
#vote scribs
Two hashtags please bb~ <3
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raynpelikoneet (0) yamato77 tutankoopa
tutankoopa (3) Oatsmaster Hopeless1der raynpelikoneet
Sciberbia (1) sn0_Man raynpelikoneet debears
marvellosity (1) yamato77
debears (0) Hapahauli
not voting (8) sciberbia Sylencia FirmTofu Onegu sn0_Man Hapahauli tutankoopa marvellosity
tutankoopa is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone
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raynpelikoneet (0) yamato77 tutankoopa
tutankoopa (3) Oatsmaster Hopeless1der raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity (1) yamato77
debears (0) Hapahauli
Sylencia (1) debears
yamato (0) marvellosity
Hopeless1der (2) sciberbia Hapahauli
FirmTofu (1) Onegu
not voting (5) Sylencia FirmTofu sn0_Man tutankoopa marvellosity
tutankoopa is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone
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Sn0_Man (0) raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (0) yamato77 tutankoopa
tutankoopa (2) Oatsmaster Hopeless1der raynpelikoneet
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marvellosity (0) yamato77
debears (0) Hapahauli
Sylencia (1) debears
yamato (0) marvellosity
Hopeless1der (3) sciberbia Hapahauli Oatsmaster
FirmTofu (1) Onegu
not voting (6) Sylencia FirmTofu sn0_Man tutankoopa marvellosity yamato77
Hopeless1der is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone
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Alakaslam has replaced Hopeless1der, starting now.
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Sn0_Man (0) raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet (0) yamato77 tutankoopa
tutankoopa (2) Oatsmaster Alakaslam raynpelikoneet
Sciberbia (0) sn0_Man raynpelikoneet debears
marvellosity (0) yamato77
debears (0) Hapahauli
Sylencia (1) debears
yamato (0) marvellosity
Alakaslam (3) sciberbia Hapahauli Oatsmaster
FirmTofu (2) Onegu yamato77
Onegu (1) Sylencia
not voting (4) FirmTofu sn0_Man tutankoopa marvellosity
Alakaslam is currently set to be lynched. Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
Voting is mandatory, please let me know if I missed anyone
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