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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 16:38 GMT
#2168
I just explained it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 16:41 GMT
#2171
On September 06 2013 01:40 Sylencia wrote:
No, because you're going under the assumption that for some reason town wouldn't just vote for marv. What is the point of doing roundabout plays which are obviously going to be scum-influenced?

If you are assuming this, why did you claim in the first place when you didn't have to?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 16:44 GMT
#2174
On September 06 2013 01:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Rayn fakeclaims for "big plays" every game so he's convinced other people are equally stupid, despite evidence to the contrary.

What do you think my cop fakeclaim in 4 Persona told me? Right, that yamato is scum, because of his over-defensive answer for no reason...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 16:45 GMT
#2176
On September 06 2013 01:42 Sylencia wrote:
Do you not read my 1000 posts already saying I would need to claim because if wagons form when I sleep then we'd probably lose?

Why do you think people would vote for your lynch when everyone voting are voting for marv? There is a case on marv which is good. There was no case on you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 16:57 GMT
#2178
On September 06 2013 01:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Rayn fakeclaims for "big plays" every game so he's convinced other people are equally stupid, despite evidence to the contrary.

What do you think my cop fakeclaim in 4 Persona told me? Right, that yamato is scum, because of his over-defensive answer for no reason...

If you seriously believe that fake claim did ANYTHING good for town then I have nothing more to say to you.

If you do not understand what i am trying to achieve with my play so be it. It doesn't mean i make wrong decisions. If i am unable to convince you (as i apparently am) that is my fault. However, i am glad i do not need to convince everyone, and like in 4 Persona only convincing some people (or mafia, that i am dangerous enough) is all i need. ^^

I get that you don't like my playstyle, but really, if i try to have a conversation with you where i am acting reasonably (even for your standards it should be clear - like i tried in 4 Persona N2) i hope you would try to do the same. I am not trying to actively discredit anyone in any game because of how they play, i am not trying to flame anyone for no reason.

I would hope you could act reasonably towards me even if you don't agree with my actions. If you think they are scummy say so, if you think they are not, call them stupid and then leave it be. You don't have to say that in every post of yours.

Deal?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 17:27 GMT
#2183
It doesn't matter. I am not lying about being given a VT fakeclaim and Hapa should prove that. In case Hapa proves that, it's pretty clear Sylencia is scum. He has no other possibility than to pray i am lying.

In case Hapa says something else, it is not clear if Sylencia is scum. Then i need to re-evaluate. I kinda get what you are saying about his claim and that coming from town, but i still do not believe he is town. But the thing is, if Sylencia is town, there is no reason to lynch him today. If he is scum, he is trying to save marv (or do you have another suggestion?). In any case, we are not lynching him today, and we get 72 more hours to figure out his alignment in case Hapa confirms all the blue roles were not given VT-fakeclaims.

I still think yamato is scum, and even if Sylencia's claim could possibly be true, i still think he is most likely to be mafia from the remaining people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 17:29 GMT
#2186
On September 06 2013 02:28 Sn0_Man wrote:
@rayn my point was that if syl is scum marv practically can't be.

Wait why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 17:34 GMT
#2188
What's the point of him claiming if marv is town? All he is doing is making himself a possible lynch target.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 17:39 GMT
#2190
I just said i think marv is the roleblocker. Marv is far more valuable for scum than Sylencia in any case (no offense Syl :/ ). marv is getting lynched. People already think he is scum. Why would he not claim as scum, there are no downsides. There are only upsides. In case he gets lynched instead of marv, profit! In case town makes some retarded plans scum might win, profit!

What are the downsides for claiming as mafia in case marv is mafia aswell?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 17:46 GMT
#2192
lol, of course he would.. marv would come in and tell how stupid Sylencia's claim is. Sylencia only addresses 5% of my marv case and calls it "very very good", when giving no new insight into it.

marv: "Look, the obvious mafia dude is voting for me! Fuck we lynch Sylencia today!"
He flips red, marv could even gain some town credit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 18:00 GMT
#2194
Look Sno:

We are 8 alive.
Hapahauli
raynpelikoneet
Sno_man
marvellosity
Onegu
yamato
Sylencia
thrawn

Case 1: We lynch Sylencia (scum):
Hapa
rayn
marv
Onegu
Sno_man
yamato
thrawn

If i am right about this, mafia can kill and roleblock Hapahauli. leaves us with 6 alive, no confirmed town.

Case 2: We lynch marv (roleblocker)
Hapa
rayn
marv
Onegu
Sno_man
yamato
thrawn

Mafia cannot possibly kill either me or Hapa. That leaves us 2 confirmed town, with a pool of 4. In this pool Sylencia is confirmed mafia (as soon as Hapa comes in lol). That leaves us 3 unconfirmed in where 1 is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 18:07 GMT
#2196
On September 06 2013 03:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
A) what makes marv a roleblocker? You invented that as a way to justify your scumread on Syl (LOL).
B) What makes you think hapa can self-protect? few medics can afaik
C) what confirms you as town when we lynch marv?

Honestly rayn ur so far off in lala land. Hence,

ANYBODY NOT RAYN TALK TO ME

A) no i didn't. that's what i would do if i was mafia. Anyways no need to talk about this because Hapa is gonna confirm that in a way or another.
B) if you were scum would you risk hitting Hapa next night with no roleblocker?
C) i made the fucking case on him. and i am gonna lynch him over Sylencia anyways. Why would that not make me town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 18:09 GMT
#2197
Honestly Sno, if you are town (or scum rofl - but especially if you are town) you should not talk about this any more until Hapa comes in here. All you are doing is making you look worse.

Just talk with yamato. I won't interfere you guys.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 18:23 GMT
#2199
On September 06 2013 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its really hard for me not to insult your intelligence right now.

I'd love to talk to yam but it takes 2 if ya know what I mean. .

Hold your horses and see me winning this game for town. ^_^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 18:24 GMT
#2200
I mean, at least until Hapa chimes in.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:39 GMT
#2210
Look, already trying to swing the vote.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:40 GMT
#2211
Onegu just stop talking and vote for marv ok?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:47 GMT
#2213
On September 06 2013 04:44 Onegu wrote:
This is the only night syl can be confirmed. If you have doubts about his claim, like I do the water should only go down from here. We most likely have to lynch scum everyday to win. Meaning the water will only go down. If it goes up by 100 it will still go down when mafia dies. Since it went up by 200 everytime a town got lynched I am guessing the same will happen when mafia dies which gets us below the 750 mark for syl to be lynchproof. Lynching him now either confirms him with little risk or kills scum. No other day can we do that and still win if he is telling the truth.

Why do you want to lynch Sylencia when marv is scum?
Sylencia could be town and you are making no sense here.
Why are you so unwilling to vote for marv?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:48 GMT
#2214
Onegu, give me a scenario, where we arrange votes, and it is not going to be a F5 battle, and we lynch mafia regardless of Sylencia's alignment.

Do it!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 05 2013 19:52 GMT
#2216
Hey hapa, do you have a vanilla fakeclaim?
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