I suppose I feel better about his lynch than just about anyone else. I have my misgivings about trusting Rayn, but I suppose that will always be the case with someone who plays mafia better than they do town.

Can you give some reasoning why do you think this?
Can you point out any town game of mine where i have not found scum at last on N2 and have been alive after that?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:28 GMT

#2088

And yamato no, i did not flip my read on you because of "as I question my assumptions about his ability to emulate this sort of play as mafia. I doubted it before, but do I necessarily want to risk losing a game to him on the assumption that he can't reliably fake being a fucking nutjob as scum".

I did flip my read on you because you completely flipped your reads on all of your town and scum reads with no reasoning given!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:32 GMT

#2089

Hapahauli: This is what i was talking about earlier in scum trying to discredit me. See what yamato is doing? I doubt he can give me a resonable answer to this:

On September 05 2013 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yamato i would also like you to explain this:

Show nested quote +

Can you give some reasoning why do you think this?
Can you point out any town game of mine where i have not found scum at last on N2 and have been alive after that?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:37 GMT

#2091

On September 05 2013 21:34 yamato77 wrote:
I'm not going to indulge your need to validate your own ability.

It's not that. You might be right or you might be wrong. I want you to explain where do you base your statement to figure out if it makes sense or are you just saying stuff for sake of saying something.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 12:44 GMT

#2093

I do not know how that explains anything?
In 4 Persona scum QT you said "you can't mislynch rayn". This statement in itself contradicts what you say here. The first thing for town player is to not get lynched. If you never get lynched and everyone in town plays so that they do not get lynched mafia always loses. So your statement has to do something with me finding scum, and i want to know where you base your statement on because i do not see it.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 13:05 GMT

#2095

wtf is this all "conditional blues"?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 13:10 GMT

#2096

Okay now seriously guys, Hapa and Sylencia:
Is your rolename seriously Conditional [insert role here]??

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 13:15 GMT

#2097

Sylencia are you okay with getting lynched and marv being the second highest vote candidate?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 13:24 GMT

#2098

So could you answer Sylencia?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 13:44 GMT

#2099

You said you would be here for 2 hours. Why is it taking so long for you to answer?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 13:54 GMT

#2100

What's your fake claim Sylencia?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 14:02 GMT

#2101

##Unvote:
##Vote: Sylencia
You have now been an hour here and you promised to be online. You most likely fucked up your claim and are scum. Now is time to start giving answers.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 14:26 GMT

#2102

Okay guys, now the question is, is Sylencia trying to save marvellosity or what the fuck is going on?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 14:29 GMT

#2105

No, Sylencia is scum because it's impossible for him to take this long to think about answers to my questions.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 14:54 GMT

#2109

Why the fuck would Sylecia make the claim that's so obviously fake if he is not trying to make some kind of big play?
I mean, he says he is going to be here and when i ask questions he immediately chokes.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 15:00 GMT

#2111

On September 05 2013 23:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'll admit he said he would be here then peaced. I don't see that as a scumclaim though.

Reading Onegu though... yeah thats scum.

Why does Onegu's vote make him scum?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 15:06 GMT

#2113

On September 06 2013 00:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Because if we lynch syl and his claim is true it should be easy for scum to orchestrate the secondary candidate (given that they have 3/8 of the vote right now). Which means that we lose on the spot. But Onegu doesn't want us to think about that, he wants us to JUST VOTE SYL so that his scumteam can be the ones to choose the secondary lynch. It is very very far from a No-Lose situation.

You can taste his eagerness to get this mislynch going. He is far far too excited about this considering the information available to town.

If Onegu votes for town!Sylencia, how does that help his scumteam deciding the second candidate because he is throwing his vote on Syl?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 15:12 GMT

#2115

Sno_man, would you agree with me, you and Hapa voting for marv and every other person voting for Sylencia?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 15:22 GMT

#2118

Okay so. There are 2 possibilities:
1) Sylencia is town. If he is town we can possibly fuck the game up.
2) Sylencia is scum. If he is scum, his claim is fake, but risking that (going 5-3) could lose us the game.

I do not think Sylencia is town, because the timing of the claim is ridiculously anti-town and him choking after the claim makes me think he is not town. He would have no reason to not answer me.

Now, Sylencia's motives for this is to save marvellosity. There is no other reason, people are already voting for marv, and this is a last resort big play. Syl's claim can't possibly be town because it's so ridiculously stupid. There is no reason to claim as town as he is not even being voted.

We are going back to plan A and just lynch marv.
##Unvote:
##Vote: marvellosity
Sno_man, my vet claim is not fake. However there is no SK. I was not shot on N1 and by now scum know there is no SK so whatevs.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

September 05 2013 15:23 GMT

#2119

On September 06 2013 00:19 Onegu wrote:
Yeah scumteam is sn0, syl, and mostlikely marv. If syl claim is real just make sure some people are on for deadline and nothing crazy happens. I will be asleep and my vote will stay on syl. There is no reason for sn0 to attack my vote there as it is legit and so is my reasoning. Also I am sure we can figure out a way to make enough votes so that marv is the second most without the possibility of switching. like make 4 votes on syl first then 4 votes on marv, which would make it impossible to change the wagon off of them. Stop attacking me for dumb non existant reasons.

Nono.. vote for marv, as i just explained.