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On September 04 2013 08:25 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 04 2013 08:23 Hapahauli wrote: So Rayn, I still don't understand what you're getting at about my claim. From how the minutes leading up to the night transpired, I think I'm pretty much confirmed town >> Why exactly are you confirmed town. Explain. The fact that debears is alive right now. He claimed he was doing 1KP damage to himself (and thus killing himself). He didn't die. So someone had to have saved debears. The only person who has claimed that so far in-thread is me. So unless someone else claims doctor, I am confirmed town. Why is debears claim true 100%?
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Well now it is, but why did you think it was?
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UNLESS YOU ARE SCUM AND SHOT HIM N1!
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Fine you are right. ##Unvote:
damn you debears.. :E
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yeah we know that now, you are town unless doc cc's. kill marv?
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On September 04 2013 08:32 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Fine you are right. ##Unvote:
damn you debears.. :E What dafuq is this? You're fucking dissapointed that I can't be scum? Did you lose your mislynch target or something? Why so sad? I am mad because people do dumb shit to get modkilled. I am mad because that confirms people. That's not cool.
That does not mean i am mafia because i am town, but i'm still mad because of it.
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Hapahauli, for real. Do you think marv is town?
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Look closely on marv and thrawn please, Hapa. I'll hate myself forever if my D1 target wins as mafia without me lynching him. Iam not bad at this shit and i do not trust marv shit anymore.
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On September 04 2013 08:50 marvellosity wrote: rayn what do you think happened with the night 1 hits? I have no idea. I did never understand why mafia would hit debears unless you or Hapa is scum. Now that Hapa is confirmed town.. well you know.
Nobody never explained that to me despite me asking people about it. I thought SK hit him and scum hit me.
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On September 04 2013 09:00 marvellosity wrote: you have to know i would never ever hit you as mafia, lol.
the only two options as far as i can see is that there's an unconditional scum vig, or you're lying. yes? Why is it impossible that thrawn is mafia and hit me? Why do you only refer to yourself when talking about my hit?
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On September 04 2013 09:23 Hapahauli wrote: And Rayn, I know you think Yamato is town, but I think that's a bad way to approach today.
We should be treating everyone null and starting over. It's LYLO, and we need to explore all possibilities. I'll be sure to look into TK and marv, but please give me your patience and look into a level head into the others as well. Yessir. Now that i know you are town i will do that when you ask. I really felt like shit when you wanted to lynch Oats, lynch Oats and then lynch Oats whatever i said and that made me feel like you are scum. I'll sleep over night and take a full reread on everything.
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I kinda want to kill yamato just for his incredibly terrible analysis on my voting.
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On September 05 2013 03:56 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 03:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I kinda want to kill yamato just for his incredibly terrible analysis on my voting. You're the one that said in the post you voted that it was a mislynch. Yeah, i voted 4 minutes before the deadline. So fucking what where my vote is because nobody else was gonna get lynched? You are completely ignoring i saved confirmed town Oats before that from getting mislynched and i had been telling people to vote for thrawn instead for the whole day. All you saa is that i voted for mislynch and my reasoning for the vote is bad. Your analysis is full of shit.
I wanted to lynch Hapa on D2. That's right. And when it became clear that will not happen i voted for Alakaslam who was the opposing wagon of Oatsmaster, at the last moments of the day. Because it was the only lynch that could have possibly happened besides Oatsmaster. Why does that make me mafia? There are two possible lynches, one of them is 99% town for me and the other one is not. Who the fuck should i vote when people do not want to vote for people i think are scum?
So how does Snodude look so much better than me from D1/D2 voting and actions? Explain it to me very carefully. All i see from him is that he is now trying push my lynch because suddenly my vet claim can't be true and uses that as a reason to accuse me. It's really funny because he did not bring that up on D2. The obvious contradiction here is that he has been thinking (like you) that it might be true when debears was "confirmed" veteran, now that he is confirmed third faction my claim looks suddenly a lot worse? How does that make any sense at all? He has also not done anything in the game besides giving bad analysis / agreeing with bad analysis now. Hell the dude wouldn't even share his scumreads on N2 "because the game would end anyways". That's bullshit. It's also bullshit that he says i am the one who has most likely been right in this game and then i'm his top candidate for lynch. The guy is scum because he hasn't done anything to help this town and has not shared any insight on anything that would even considered to be good analysis and right way to look into.
thrawn is also scum. After the heat got off him on D2 start all he has done is gave one post about Onegu and that's it. Besides that he has been useless. "Hey let's stay in the shadows and see Hapa/Oats getting mislynched today". Oh and btw Onegu redeemed himself later on, with his post about asking hosts about if he can talk about a game or not, and his good analysis on Sno.
Then, another scum is very likely to be marv. Hopefully someone is able to explain why because i can't point ot anything specific that makes him scum, but i am pretty sure he is one. I don't see him trying to find scum here, he is just chit chatting with people and throwing his votes around without trying much.
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yamato explain you full 180 on Sno_man.
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On September 05 2013 01:47 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 01:35 Sn0_Man wrote:I can wait, but so far your "mulligan" feels a lot more like: Well of my 3 man "scum-team" (aka mislynch-roster), 2 have proven themselves or flipped town. I really need an excuse to 180 on everything so... "Mulligan" time. It is true, town in the same situation does the same thing, but I really don't see town starting off with some BS about hapa not being confirmed town  . Voting far less informative this game than I had hoped since Day 1 was fairly "runaway" with 8 votes to 3, and day 2 was a "close race" between 2 townies. However, if you can spot anything really useful I'd love to hear it. I do somewhat feel like Syl and Thrawn look a bit bad from day 1 voting, but nothing too conclusive. I look deeper than just the votecounts. A really effective tactic is to scan through someone's filter looking at votes and unvotes, and read why they voted or unvoted.I already have a sneaking suspicion about one player just based off this. This is the funniest post in thread. Compare this to yamato's "analysis" of my voting and actions.. rofl. Maybe we should just lynch him. ##Vote: yamato77
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Since you did a 180 on all of your townreads and suddenly they are all scum and your scumreads become town.
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EBWOP: above is a response to yamato He literally dropped all his scumreads, they all became town, and all of his townreads are now scum. No new evidence was brought up, besides sciberbia trying to shoot him, Hapa doccing debears and debears flipping 3p.
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The difference is there is no explanation in his change of reads besides "i reread stuff". What, has he not read stuff closely before? How do the recent happenings affect his reads? He gives no explanation on anything.
Scum, as town aswell thought the game would end by the daypost, They can pull as accurate reads as they want at N2 end. The game did not end, town can still ahve a chance of winning. Time to go to damage control mode.
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On September 05 2013 06:21 Sn0_Man wrote: Rayn, you are heavily misconstruing this again.
Yam's scumreads: me/hapa/slam New information pertaining to that: hapa confirmed doctor, slam flipped town.
When 2/3 of one's scumteam becomes confirmed town some 180's become necessary since one clearly wasn't going in the right direction. Remember that yamato made an exactly same kind of an analysys post on you that Onegu did on N2. Even if Onegu is wrong, why would yamato think Onegu is mafia? Suddenly now, with no reasons given he thinks you are sure town and Onegu is scum. It makes zero sense.
I can somehow understand his read change on marv.
What new information has come up that makes me mafia in his eyes? He is justifying his change on his read on me by making vote analysis from D1. Bullshit, the information has been there and he has been calling me town for all game before this. Now my D1 voting is suddenly relevant? And besides that the analysis regarding me is horrible and makes no sense.
I cannot possibly think a smart guy like yamato would make such a bullshit statement of Hapahauli possibly being a scum doctor. Yeah, fuck, i am not a vet according to him as i am scum. Where are town power roles? One vigilante against scum doc + roleblocker + possibly something else. Yeah, makes really a lot of sense.
I am going to look at debears' and sciberbia's filtersreally close tomorrow and i encourage for you all to do so aswell.
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