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On September 05 2013 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: Skimming through debears' filter, one thing that bothers me is that debears devoted his D1 to getting Sylencia lynched. All we know is that debears is genunine, and not that he's 100% correct. That being said, where the fuck is Syl? | ||
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On September 05 2013 06:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is not true. WoS was purposely playing anti-town from the beginning and refused to explain himself to me multiple times. What am i supposed to do? Of course i made mistakes and could have looked things more objectively but it's pretty hard when someone refuses to explain anything to you. If you remember D1 i said "I am sure geript is scum but i can't justify lynching him to myself because every anti-town thing he does WoS does it 100x". After WoS got lynched it took me two phases to solve the game, and the only thing i was not sure of was you, because of what you are doing here aswell right now. Discrediting me without any real reason to do so. You can call my play or methos as bad as you wish but that doesn't change the fact that when i get my shit together i find scum. You are not helping with you comments atm. Please stop going off against everyone who criticizes you. It really isn't productive, and makes people not want to post freely | ||
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When you get back, I need an answer to the following: 1) How is it that your Sn0 read is so different from yesterday? 2) Your votecount analysis seems really shallow. You spend zero time looking into the context of those posts and take them all at face value. You should realize that voting has been chaotic and wishy-washy as a whole this game. 3) I really don't understand the complete inability for us to have a conversation this game. For example, this post... On September 03 2013 08:32 yamato77 wrote: I'll be on for a while tonight. If you're town, we'll resolve this. ...you made after you posted your case against me, seemingly promising to show some effort and talk to me. Instead you fucked off, did god knows what, and came back the next morning and tunneled me while I was gone. You seemed so much more interested in calling me scum than actually trying to determine my allignment. | ||
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On September 05 2013 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not going against people who criticize me. I don't give a fuck if someone thinks i am not worth listening. I go against arguments that are wrong. Yes, in Persona i mislynched on D1, after that i never had my vote on a townie in that game. I never accused a townie after that in the game (besides Sno_man). I didn't even get mad on Sno_man who refused to talk to me when i was trying to have a civilized conversation with him. On N2 I gave my resoning on the scum in the game that was right. Only thing i was not sure of was Sno_man. So comments like "I don't need to get into shouting matches regarding awful lynches since nobody is dumb enough to listen to rayn very much" i do not understand. Nobody ever gave me good reasons why thrawn is town D1. PEople just called my case bad, called me dumb, and thrawn town. It still remains a mystery to me why? I'm genuinely curious about this Rayn (and it's in no way an insult or anything) - but how often do scum tunnel you and/or are vocally suspicious of you in town games you play? | ||
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On September 05 2013 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Usually scum call me bad. Recent examples of these are FirmTofu & yamato in 4 Persona. FirmTofu and Corazon in Titanic. Or i get killed N1/N2. Last time scum tried to tunnel me was Ace in NWM N1. Didn't work out, too bad nobody realized he was scum. Who's been calling you bad this game? | ||
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On September 05 2013 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv. Hmmm ok. Though I suspect he calls you bad as town too | ||
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So they either poke you with "bad" comments and are dismissive of you or ignore you all together. I'll double check this tonight, but who are people who have interacted at length with you this game? | ||
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On September 05 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv, you and thrawn mostly. I have not played with thrawn before this. By calling me bad i mean not telling why my arguments are bad but rather just give the thread the impression "this guy is wrong and does not know what he is talking about" or not answering my arguments at all and the accusing me of shitting up the thread when i try to explain what i mean. I have never seen marv do this before. He is a guy who usually is willing to listen to me and if he thinks i am wrong he tells me where i am going wrong and why. His D1 play regarding me--thrawn was completely different from what it usually is. Can you elaborate on the marv bit? GIve us something concrete, and I think it would definetely warrant a response from marv. I will say that I think the difference might be due to your suspicion on him this game (to which he generally does not respond well). | ||
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Do you think he'd really entertain your suspicions on him for that long? He was remarkably patient with you considering how up-in-his-face you were on D1. | ||
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On September 05 2013 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: My problem with yamato is that when i read the 4 Persona scum chat mafia's reasoning for killing me was "you can't mislynch rayn", from yamato. In that game i had lynched a town parity cop on D1 and had a red check on me. Still yamato wanted to hit me. That does not go to his scum meta (why would he be accusing me here given that comment?), but i also understand he has to play very differently and try hard if he wants to survive amongst people in this game in case he is scum. His recent actions point towards him scum, and if he is unable to reasonably explain them i want to lynch him. Because right now he is not making any sense to me. Well you kinda beat me to it (and I was hoping to get some response from yamato before it), but yeah I think Yamato is town. Him going after you like this makes very little sense with how he generally plays scum. Also, him vocally questioning my doctor claim strikes me as absurd confirmation bias as opposed to malicious. My scumteam right now is probably Onegu/Sylencia, and I'm a bit lost on the third. I would say marv or sn0, relaly not sure. | ||
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Thoughts on Yamato? (since we were just talking about him) | ||
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On September 05 2013 08:07 thrawn2112 wrote: hapa, yamato, rayn I won't lynch any of them today. Why the particularly strong feelings on Yamato? | ||
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On September 05 2013 08:14 thrawn2112 wrote: As scum I think he'd be fucking off right about now. The way he's handling a situation where town is nearly fucked is very town-yamato-ish. To play devil's advocate, he really hasn't been all that present in the thread all game. Also, town-yamato-ish is much more active than what he's doing right now. In what ways does his specific behaviors point to his townie persona? | ||
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On September 05 2013 08:21 thrawn2112 wrote: Him not being active is part of that read. As town I've seen him mess around until town is screwed, then come back to the thread acting as if he's going to be the one to solve the game. Yeah the recent activity is not as much as I remember it being in past games, but overall his approach to the game feels much more like town than scum yamato, so much that he's not an acceptable D3 lynch. So you have 3 unacceptable lynches (of which I believe you all think are town-reads), you yourself will maintain that you're town. That probably leaves 3 scum of the next 4 players. Who's your scumteam? Or if that's too specific, who are you leaning strongest scum on? Who are you wavering the most on? | ||
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On September 05 2013 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think Onegu is scum. He had his good post about Sno on N2 and when i was questioning him on his FT meta read the response i got in the end was really genuine. Which post in particular? My general opinion of Onegu is that his play has been incredibly detatched. I also do not think Sno is scum. I do not know what he would do with me if he was scum, but his stance on me seems like the same than when he is town. Sn0 is my null-read right now. I'd need much more time with him. Yamato needs to explain himself. Sylencia is a good lynch. Marv and Thrawn too. One of those guys is probably town and others are scum. Agree on syl, not sold on Thrawn. Marv's absence is troubling. | ||
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On September 05 2013 08:40 thrawn2112 wrote: Yep, currently looking at marv, sno, onegu, and sylencia. I really don't know who I'd pick as town from that group. I would be completely for lynching onegu had he not made that post about pms. I'm having trouble seeing why he would post that as mafia and I *might* say he's my most confident town read. Explain please? Syl I just haven't read in awhile. ... I have yet to go through syl's stuff so I'll make a case on my top one or two lynch candidates after I've done that. Right now those are marv/sn0. Get back to me on Syl. | ||
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I can see getting townie-vibes from that, but nothign particularly robust. It's natural for anyone to talk about the subject (PM'ing the host about discussion of an ongoing game), especially if it pertains to your suspicions and defense of said suspicion after a mislynch. | ||
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