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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 11 2013 15:42 GMT
#2681
On September 12 2013 00:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2013 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
The whole reason I went through this process today was to see how the three of you would justify voting me under these circumstances. You and Rayn are obviously just subject to massive confirmation bias at this point, and that's actually pretty telling to me. The fact that you both have continued to find fictitious reasons why I'm mafia shows that you at least care about scumhunting to some extent, even if you are dead wrong about my alignment and my general play as town.

Onegu, on the other hand, is a different story. He's waffled about it and such, because he had a "scumread" on you, Sn0, so it look odd if he goes into MYLO and just votes me. But essentially, that's what he's done. He pointed out some apparent inconsistency in my posting (meaningless semantics) and echoed the stupid fucking sentiment that I've "given up on the game" (I clearly haven't), and then waffled some more.

Really, like I said, it's his final actions that give him away. If he "wants to be sure about this" why did he leave his vote on me and decide to shorten the day? The cognitive dissonance gives away his true intentions; he wanted to find a reason to vote for me and, by extension, win the game. He wasn't at all interested in actually looking at my filter and reading my true alignment, because not once did he come up with a single original thought about my play.

So yeah, you can thank me later, I solved the game.

##Unvote
##Vote Onegu



Again you did give up, I quoted you where you said you give up. You even selfvoted at the time.

it was a ploy to see who would FEEL THE NEED to continue to justify voting for someone who (on the surface) didn't care about dying.

Rayn and Sn0 did that, you just left your vote and peaced.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 11 2013 15:45 GMT
#2682
On September 12 2013 00:40 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA

you didn't vote syl until after his claim, so you get zero townie points for bussing your scummate



Ok you are correct it was after his claim. But you think I have been bussing him since day 1 then? My case on him almost got him lynched day one, if it wasnt for marv and sn0 changeing the wagon when he was set to be lynched we wouldnt be haveing this conversation. Also syl voted me day 1 so you think we were hard bussing each other since day 1?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#2683
On September 12 2013 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA

Your vote did not go on Sylencia before his fakeclaim. Why are you lying?



I was going off of memory. Not lying just trying to remember correctly.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#2684
On September 12 2013 00:45 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 00:40 yamato77 wrote:
On September 05 2013 23:47 Onegu wrote:
Yeah Syl is most likely scum, I have thought he was scummy since day one, also lynching him has zero downside if his claim is true we still dont lose the game, if he is scum fake claiming scum dies its a no lose situation.

##VOTE SYLENCIA

you didn't vote syl until after his claim, so you get zero townie points for bussing your scummate



Ok you are correct it was after his claim. But you think I have been bussing him since day 1 then? My case on him almost got him lynched day one, if it wasnt for marv and sn0 changeing the wagon when he was set to be lynched we wouldnt be haveing this conversation. Also syl voted me day 1 so you think we were hard bussing each other since day 1?

It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility.

Your "case on D1" is also minus a vote, because your vote went on FT. It smells like a bus.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2013 15:47 GMT
#2685
Did you vote for Sylencia on D1?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 11 2013 15:50 GMT
#2686
On September 12 2013 00:42 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 00:40 Onegu wrote:
On September 11 2013 07:34 yamato77 wrote:
The whole reason I went through this process today was to see how the three of you would justify voting me under these circumstances. You and Rayn are obviously just subject to massive confirmation bias at this point, and that's actually pretty telling to me. The fact that you both have continued to find fictitious reasons why I'm mafia shows that you at least care about scumhunting to some extent, even if you are dead wrong about my alignment and my general play as town.

Onegu, on the other hand, is a different story. He's waffled about it and such, because he had a "scumread" on you, Sn0, so it look odd if he goes into MYLO and just votes me. But essentially, that's what he's done. He pointed out some apparent inconsistency in my posting (meaningless semantics) and echoed the stupid fucking sentiment that I've "given up on the game" (I clearly haven't), and then waffled some more.

Really, like I said, it's his final actions that give him away. If he "wants to be sure about this" why did he leave his vote on me and decide to shorten the day? The cognitive dissonance gives away his true intentions; he wanted to find a reason to vote for me and, by extension, win the game. He wasn't at all interested in actually looking at my filter and reading my true alignment, because not once did he come up with a single original thought about my play.

So yeah, you can thank me later, I solved the game.

##Unvote
##Vote Onegu



Again you did give up, I quoted you where you said you give up. You even selfvoted at the time.

it was a ploy to see who would FEEL THE NEED to continue to justify voting for someone who (on the surface) didn't care about dying.

Rayn and Sn0 did that, you just left your vote and peaced.



Again I tried to make a sn0 lynch happen, when it was obvious that wasnt happening and it had appeared you had given up so I voted you and voted ok for a faster day and went to bed. I live in Thailand I cant be around for the deadline.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 11 2013 15:52 GMT
#2687
On September 12 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you vote for Sylencia on D1?

No, I made the case, then FT came back parked his vote without reason when I had just said if he came back and wouldnt get modkilled my vote would go back on him.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 11 2013 15:54 GMT
#2688
Rayn, how do you feel about changing your mind and no-lynching today?

You could be ABSOLUTELY SURE who is mafia based on who gets shot tonight.
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2013 15:56 GMT
#2689
On September 12 2013 00:52 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you vote for Sylencia on D1?

No, I made the case, then FT came back parked his vote without reason when I had just said if he came back and wouldnt get modkilled my vote would go back on him.

afaik debears made the case on Sylencia that got sheeped, not you.

These are your posts during the time:
On August 31 2013 01:36 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Meh I understand, I really need to turn my town play around :/. That being said a few quick things before I go in depth.

FT still hasnt came back and is a good lynch canidate. If not him alakaslam should die, its dumb to not lynch him because he replaced in 9~ hours from deadline. The person he replaced was scummy simple as that.

Still havent caught up on the whole syl thing, and while I understand his reasoning I find it odd he hasnt pointed posts out as scummy, he just says im overall scummy. Debears pointed things out and put together a case that made me feel much better about him. Ok doing some deeper reading now.

On August 31 2013 03:34 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 17:16 Sylencia wrote:
Alright, here's my current views:

FT: Easily a decent lynch option here, generally you follow a declaration of presence with something, but he's gone mia for the last day. I'd support a lynch on FT.

Tutan: I'm reading up on him and the reasoning behind the votes behind him. I disagree with Hopeless's reasons and while Oats's accusations can make sense, it follows the same reasoning that if Tutan's sheep was a joke, the case around him kind of falls apart:

On August 29 2013 20:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
It didnt read to me as a joke AT all and he never mentions that its a joke.

I said that mafia generally do not draw attention to themselves. Tuken was not proposing a policy lynch, he was just following yamato. So thats not too attention drawing. Also if I didnt push him and all that, we would not be talking about him at all. So he didnt draw attention to himself.


His vote was in the first hour, and is his vote any worse than Hopeless's vote which sheeped yours? If you apply it to one, it should apply to the other right? Basically, I don't feel comfortable with a Tutan lynch - unless I missed something (I am not reading rayn's filter).

More soonish




Says he is ok with a FT lynch here.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 21:25 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tutankoopa:
- I can't see any direction in his play
- When i ask about his motives behind his actions he sums up what he did, not why he did (which is what i am asking). Multiple times.
- He has apparently no reads at all.


Would you say this is better or worse than what I see from Onegu (who I believe you say you have a town read on):

- No real direction in his play
- He hasn't really had any reads post-debears sobering
- Doesn't push hard for anyone but a lurker.

To me, this seems worse, so I'm interested to see why this comes off differently.

Reading what came in the last page when my friends and I stop dotaing


Gives reasons for voteing me here without point out any posts.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 22:48 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:43 yamato77 wrote:
I have to find a lynch candidate before I sleep.

give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it


Between FT/Hopeless/Onegu which would you vote for? I think you mentioned FT being decent, but is it better than the other 2?


Again says he is ok with a FT lynch


Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Now look at the second line of why I am scummy. And I gave reasons for him being a good lynch, ie lurking, his scum meta for calling out rayne. Scy looks like he is just comeimg after me as a easy lynch target without any solid reasons other than sheeping what other people have points out about me. I would be ok with a scy lynch, but for the time being FT needs to die, and alakaslam has done nothing to change my read off of hopeless. I am ok with any of these three lynches.

Your vote is on FT. Your vote stays on FT. After that you unvote FT. Then you say "i need to think about this" and the next post you vote FT again.

How is that your case?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#2690
On September 12 2013 00:54 yamato77 wrote:
Rayn, how do you feel about changing your mind and no-lynching today?

You could be ABSOLUTELY SURE who is mafia based on who gets shot tonight.

Sh.. do not talk about no-lynching. I wanna hear Onegu now.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#2691
On September 12 2013 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 00:54 yamato77 wrote:
Rayn, how do you feel about changing your mind and no-lynching today?

You could be ABSOLUTELY SURE who is mafia based on who gets shot tonight.

Sh.. do not talk about no-lynching. I wanna hear Onegu now.

i have a limited amount of time

i need sleeeeeeeeep
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2013 16:00 GMT
#2692
How much can you hang on?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 11 2013 16:03 GMT
#2693
On September 12 2013 01:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How much can you hang on?

maybe an hour
Writer@WriterYamato
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 11 2013 16:03 GMT
#2694
On September 12 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 00:52 Onegu wrote:
On September 12 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you vote for Sylencia on D1?

No, I made the case, then FT came back parked his vote without reason when I had just said if he came back and wouldnt get modkilled my vote would go back on him.

afaik debears made the case on Sylencia that got sheeped, not you.

These are your posts during the time:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:36 Onegu wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Meh I understand, I really need to turn my town play around :/. That being said a few quick things before I go in depth.

FT still hasnt came back and is a good lynch canidate. If not him alakaslam should die, its dumb to not lynch him because he replaced in 9~ hours from deadline. The person he replaced was scummy simple as that.

Still havent caught up on the whole syl thing, and while I understand his reasoning I find it odd he hasnt pointed posts out as scummy, he just says im overall scummy. Debears pointed things out and put together a case that made me feel much better about him. Ok doing some deeper reading now.

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 03:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 30 2013 17:16 Sylencia wrote:
Alright, here's my current views:

FT: Easily a decent lynch option here, generally you follow a declaration of presence with something, but he's gone mia for the last day. I'd support a lynch on FT.

Tutan: I'm reading up on him and the reasoning behind the votes behind him. I disagree with Hopeless's reasons and while Oats's accusations can make sense, it follows the same reasoning that if Tutan's sheep was a joke, the case around him kind of falls apart:

On August 29 2013 20:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
It didnt read to me as a joke AT all and he never mentions that its a joke.

I said that mafia generally do not draw attention to themselves. Tuken was not proposing a policy lynch, he was just following yamato. So thats not too attention drawing. Also if I didnt push him and all that, we would not be talking about him at all. So he didnt draw attention to himself.


His vote was in the first hour, and is his vote any worse than Hopeless's vote which sheeped yours? If you apply it to one, it should apply to the other right? Basically, I don't feel comfortable with a Tutan lynch - unless I missed something (I am not reading rayn's filter).

More soonish




Says he is ok with a FT lynch here.

On August 30 2013 21:25 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tutankoopa:
- I can't see any direction in his play
- When i ask about his motives behind his actions he sums up what he did, not why he did (which is what i am asking). Multiple times.
- He has apparently no reads at all.


Would you say this is better or worse than what I see from Onegu (who I believe you say you have a town read on):

- No real direction in his play
- He hasn't really had any reads post-debears sobering
- Doesn't push hard for anyone but a lurker.

To me, this seems worse, so I'm interested to see why this comes off differently.

Reading what came in the last page when my friends and I stop dotaing


Gives reasons for voteing me here without point out any posts.

On August 30 2013 22:48 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:43 yamato77 wrote:
I have to find a lynch candidate before I sleep.

give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it


Between FT/Hopeless/Onegu which would you vote for? I think you mentioned FT being decent, but is it better than the other 2?


Again says he is ok with a FT lynch


On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Now look at the second line of why I am scummy. And I gave reasons for him being a good lynch, ie lurking, his scum meta for calling out rayne. Scy looks like he is just comeimg after me as a easy lynch target without any solid reasons other than sheeping what other people have points out about me. I would be ok with a scy lynch, but for the time being FT needs to die, and alakaslam has done nothing to change my read off of hopeless. I am ok with any of these three lynches.

Your vote is on FT. Your vote stays on FT. After that you unvote FT. Then you say "i need to think about this" and the next post you vote FT again.

How is that your case?


It my case because he attacked me for no reason except the same thing he did. His vote on me was terrible and I called him out for it. Then he was almost lynched it it wasnt for marv and sn0. When I unvoted I was looking at him and slam again to decide where my vote goes, then FT came back. Then I call out syl night 1 day 2 night 2 and day 3 I tunneled him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2013 16:03 GMT
#2695
Sno are you here?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2013 16:04 GMT
#2696
On September 12 2013 01:03 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 12 2013 00:52 Onegu wrote:
On September 12 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you vote for Sylencia on D1?

No, I made the case, then FT came back parked his vote without reason when I had just said if he came back and wouldnt get modkilled my vote would go back on him.

afaik debears made the case on Sylencia that got sheeped, not you.

These are your posts during the time:
On August 31 2013 01:36 Onegu wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Meh I understand, I really need to turn my town play around :/. That being said a few quick things before I go in depth.

FT still hasnt came back and is a good lynch canidate. If not him alakaslam should die, its dumb to not lynch him because he replaced in 9~ hours from deadline. The person he replaced was scummy simple as that.

Still havent caught up on the whole syl thing, and while I understand his reasoning I find it odd he hasnt pointed posts out as scummy, he just says im overall scummy. Debears pointed things out and put together a case that made me feel much better about him. Ok doing some deeper reading now.

On August 31 2013 03:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 30 2013 17:16 Sylencia wrote:
Alright, here's my current views:

FT: Easily a decent lynch option here, generally you follow a declaration of presence with something, but he's gone mia for the last day. I'd support a lynch on FT.

Tutan: I'm reading up on him and the reasoning behind the votes behind him. I disagree with Hopeless's reasons and while Oats's accusations can make sense, it follows the same reasoning that if Tutan's sheep was a joke, the case around him kind of falls apart:

On August 29 2013 20:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
It didnt read to me as a joke AT all and he never mentions that its a joke.

I said that mafia generally do not draw attention to themselves. Tuken was not proposing a policy lynch, he was just following yamato. So thats not too attention drawing. Also if I didnt push him and all that, we would not be talking about him at all. So he didnt draw attention to himself.


His vote was in the first hour, and is his vote any worse than Hopeless's vote which sheeped yours? If you apply it to one, it should apply to the other right? Basically, I don't feel comfortable with a Tutan lynch - unless I missed something (I am not reading rayn's filter).

More soonish




Says he is ok with a FT lynch here.

On August 30 2013 21:25 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tutankoopa:
- I can't see any direction in his play
- When i ask about his motives behind his actions he sums up what he did, not why he did (which is what i am asking). Multiple times.
- He has apparently no reads at all.


Would you say this is better or worse than what I see from Onegu (who I believe you say you have a town read on):

- No real direction in his play
- He hasn't really had any reads post-debears sobering
- Doesn't push hard for anyone but a lurker.

To me, this seems worse, so I'm interested to see why this comes off differently.

Reading what came in the last page when my friends and I stop dotaing


Gives reasons for voteing me here without point out any posts.

On August 30 2013 22:48 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:43 yamato77 wrote:
I have to find a lynch candidate before I sleep.

give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it


Between FT/Hopeless/Onegu which would you vote for? I think you mentioned FT being decent, but is it better than the other 2?


Again says he is ok with a FT lynch


On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Now look at the second line of why I am scummy. And I gave reasons for him being a good lynch, ie lurking, his scum meta for calling out rayne. Scy looks like he is just comeimg after me as a easy lynch target without any solid reasons other than sheeping what other people have points out about me. I would be ok with a scy lynch, but for the time being FT needs to die, and alakaslam has done nothing to change my read off of hopeless. I am ok with any of these three lynches.

Your vote is on FT. Your vote stays on FT. After that you unvote FT. Then you say "i need to think about this" and the next post you vote FT again.

How is that your case?


It my case because he attacked me for no reason except the same thing he did. His vote on me was terrible and I called him out for it. Then he was almost lynched it it wasnt for marv and sn0. When I unvoted I was looking at him and slam again to decide where my vote goes, then FT came back. Then I call out syl night 1 day 2 night 2 and day 3 I tunneled him.

Why did you never vote for Sylencia until i called out his fakeclaim if you were sure he was scum?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 11 2013 16:04 GMT
#2697
Yes I'm here

Yes I still wanna lynch Yam.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
September 11 2013 16:07 GMT
#2698
On September 12 2013 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 12 2013 01:03 Onegu wrote:
On September 12 2013 00:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 12 2013 00:52 Onegu wrote:
On September 12 2013 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you vote for Sylencia on D1?

No, I made the case, then FT came back parked his vote without reason when I had just said if he came back and wouldnt get modkilled my vote would go back on him.

afaik debears made the case on Sylencia that got sheeped, not you.

These are your posts during the time:
On August 31 2013 01:36 Onegu wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Meh I understand, I really need to turn my town play around :/. That being said a few quick things before I go in depth.

FT still hasnt came back and is a good lynch canidate. If not him alakaslam should die, its dumb to not lynch him because he replaced in 9~ hours from deadline. The person he replaced was scummy simple as that.

Still havent caught up on the whole syl thing, and while I understand his reasoning I find it odd he hasnt pointed posts out as scummy, he just says im overall scummy. Debears pointed things out and put together a case that made me feel much better about him. Ok doing some deeper reading now.

On August 31 2013 03:34 Onegu wrote:
On August 30 2013 17:16 Sylencia wrote:
Alright, here's my current views:

FT: Easily a decent lynch option here, generally you follow a declaration of presence with something, but he's gone mia for the last day. I'd support a lynch on FT.

Tutan: I'm reading up on him and the reasoning behind the votes behind him. I disagree with Hopeless's reasons and while Oats's accusations can make sense, it follows the same reasoning that if Tutan's sheep was a joke, the case around him kind of falls apart:

On August 29 2013 20:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
It didnt read to me as a joke AT all and he never mentions that its a joke.

I said that mafia generally do not draw attention to themselves. Tuken was not proposing a policy lynch, he was just following yamato. So thats not too attention drawing. Also if I didnt push him and all that, we would not be talking about him at all. So he didnt draw attention to himself.


His vote was in the first hour, and is his vote any worse than Hopeless's vote which sheeped yours? If you apply it to one, it should apply to the other right? Basically, I don't feel comfortable with a Tutan lynch - unless I missed something (I am not reading rayn's filter).

More soonish




Says he is ok with a FT lynch here.

On August 30 2013 21:25 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tutankoopa:
- I can't see any direction in his play
- When i ask about his motives behind his actions he sums up what he did, not why he did (which is what i am asking). Multiple times.
- He has apparently no reads at all.


Would you say this is better or worse than what I see from Onegu (who I believe you say you have a town read on):

- No real direction in his play
- He hasn't really had any reads post-debears sobering
- Doesn't push hard for anyone but a lurker.

To me, this seems worse, so I'm interested to see why this comes off differently.

Reading what came in the last page when my friends and I stop dotaing


Gives reasons for voteing me here without point out any posts.

On August 30 2013 22:48 Sylencia wrote:
On August 30 2013 22:43 yamato77 wrote:
I have to find a lynch candidate before I sleep.

give me bullet point on the case on hopeless, not going to reread to find it


Between FT/Hopeless/Onegu which would you vote for? I think you mentioned FT being decent, but is it better than the other 2?


Again says he is ok with a FT lynch


On August 31 2013 00:36 Sylencia wrote:
Need to sleep, ##Vote Onegu

I mentioned it before

- No real reads since the case on debears dropped
- Pushes on FT for an easy lurker lynch - gives him no reason to have to make a case
- His posts have had some quantity with no quality to it.

I think it's worse than Tutan, and I don't have much meta on Onegu so it's pretty neutral in that respect.



Now look at the second line of why I am scummy. And I gave reasons for him being a good lynch, ie lurking, his scum meta for calling out rayne. Scy looks like he is just comeimg after me as a easy lynch target without any solid reasons other than sheeping what other people have points out about me. I would be ok with a scy lynch, but for the time being FT needs to die, and alakaslam has done nothing to change my read off of hopeless. I am ok with any of these three lynches.

Your vote is on FT. Your vote stays on FT. After that you unvote FT. Then you say "i need to think about this" and the next post you vote FT again.

How is that your case?


It my case because he attacked me for no reason except the same thing he did. His vote on me was terrible and I called him out for it. Then he was almost lynched it it wasnt for marv and sn0. When I unvoted I was looking at him and slam again to decide where my vote goes, then FT came back. Then I call out syl night 1 day 2 night 2 and day 3 I tunneled him.

Why did you never vote for Sylencia until i called out his fakeclaim if you were sure he was scum?



I had just came into the thread, made one post for the day then voted syl.
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September 11 2013 16:07 GMT
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Also show me one post where you talk about Sylencia on N2?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43270 Posts
September 11 2013 16:10 GMT
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On September 12 2013 01:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Yes I'm here

Yes I still wanna lynch Yam.

I am not sure about it. Actually i am leaning on Ongu heavily.

"I made a case on him D1" != true
"I pushed him D2" != true
"I pushed him N2" != true
"I voted for Sylencia on D3 before his claim" != true

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