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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote: So what changed your mind? What were you thinking about? Why was it bad for you to claim in your first post and good for you to claim now? Dnu, was thinking about it the entire time. But now seems like a good moment. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:30 WaveofShadow wrote: When did I say you were scum? I've seen Koshi's scum QTs and I know how he gets when under any suspicion at all. Elaborate please? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:30 WaveofShadow wrote: When did I say you were scum? I've seen Koshi's scum QTs and I know how he gets when under any suspicion at all. O rly please tell me more. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote: Dnu, was thinking about it the entire time. But now seems like a good moment. Answer the questions. There must be reasons. "Dnu" not a reason. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I've claimed late as a self-aware miller before and it wasn't an issue because my earlier play and continuing play was easily able to assure the rest of town I was town. Rayn. You were just in this fucking game. GoT where kita fakeclaimed to try and get Koshi to reveal himself? Do you honestly need to me to post scum QT logs that you yourself have? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On May 13 2013 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: In addition of possible self-aware millers we could have possible parity cop(s). Miller claims help them because they can possibly verify their checks at some point. On May 13 2013 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: it's not optimal to claim miller if you don't know the exact number of delf-aware millers. On May 13 2013 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: The setup was closed. We could not know if there was even gonna be any self-aware millers. In a both a closed and semi open setup you do not even know if there are any millers nor their number. The set-up being semi-open vs closed does not absolve you of the contradiction On May 13 2013 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are town you should never be checked by a cop. On May 13 2013 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: In addition of possible self-aware millers we could have possible parity cop(s). Miller claims help them because they can possibly verify their checks at some point. In both closed and semi-open setups there may be an investigative role/s. The fact that the set-up is semi-open does not change the fact that you said townies (and millers) should never be checked by a cop. In response to a similiar proposition that you are now using to justify your reversal. Regardless of the set-up being semi-open or closed your explanation directly contradicts your previous belief that one should never claim miller when you don't know THE EXACT NUMBER of millers and that a townie and thus a miller SHOULD NEVER BE COP CHECKED. Instead of giving a simple or reasonable explanation to your shift in policy you have provided bullshit reasons and excuses. And I want to know why. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:34 WaveofShadow wrote: I honestly can't think of another reason Koshi claimed other than he's worried about the pressure he's under. I've claimed late as a self-aware miller before and it wasn't an issue because my earlier play and continuing play was easily able to assure the rest of town I was town. Rayn. You were just in this fucking game. GoT where kita fakeclaimed to try and get Koshi to reveal himself? Do you honestly need to me to post scum QT logs that you yourself have? Yes, post the scum QT to show us how Koshi claimed under pressure. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Answer the questions. There must be reasons. "Dnu" not a reason. I just wanted to wait a bit and now feels like a good time to claim. Also with the case on me I thought it would be more obvious. I should breadcrumb a bit better. Let's see: On August 20 2013 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Self-aware millers and survivor claim please before D1. If you don't we lynch you after if you do. I was thinking the same. Was thinking I should claim with my role. On August 20 2013 20:18 Koshi wrote: Ok, survivor might not want to claim. The self-aware miller should claim though. Dnu why he shouldn't claim instantly. Silly role. Kinda asking the thread if I should claim or not. You make me feel better :D I wanted to roll town but this role was looking silly. But still better than scum. Also, now that I know I have to claim it is maybe not too horrible. On August 20 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote: I was talking more about the self aware miller part. Dnu. Survivor shouldn't claim if he wants to play his role like that. Also your point about if we know there is a survivor we know there isn't an SK is really scummy rayn. Cuz SK is scum their problem. about the self-aware miller (survivor can fuck off) ^ should have been my response to rayn in the first place. ________________ take it or leave it. | ||
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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
On August 20 2013 22:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: In CCM you understood that the correct way is not to not talk at all on N0. Why do you suggest it again now? Sorry watching my kid, but this is the post where you talk about him knowing the correct way. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On August 20 2013 20:18 Koshi wrote: Ok, survivor might not want to claim. The self-aware miller should claim though. Dnu why he shouldn't claim instantly. Silly role. On August 20 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote: I was talking more about the self aware miller part. Dnu. Survivor shouldn't claim if he wants to play his role like that. Also your point about if we know there is a survivor we know there isn't an SK is really scummy rayn. Cuz SK is scum their problem. On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote: Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit. But I am the self aware miller guy. Burn him with the fire of a thousand suns. On August 20 2013 20:18 Koshi wrote: The self-aware miller should claim though. Dnu why he shouldn't claim instantly. Silly role. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:35 DarthPunk wrote: The dissonance in your position does not change with semi-open or closed setups In a both a closed and semi open setup you do not even know if there are any millers nor their number. The set-up being semi-open vs closed does not absolve you of the contradiction In both closed and semi-open setups there may be an investigative role/s. The fact that the set-up is semi-open does not change the fact that you said townies (and millers) should never be checked by a cop. In response to a similiar proposition that you are now using to justify your reversal. Regardless of the set-up being semi-open or closed your explanation directly contradicts your previous belief that one should never claim miller when you don't know THE EXACT NUMBER of millers and that a townie and thus a miller SHOULD NEVER BE COP CHECKED. Instead of giving a simple or reasonable explanation to your shift in policy you have provided bullshit reasons and excuses. And I want to know why. Your case is debunked from Basterd mini mafia where i immediately asked all millers to claim (we knew there was 0-2 millers). Now, do you think WoS is mafia? Or rather, what makes you think he is not. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would Koshi freak out if we both were scum? Because DP is accusing him for nothing? This guy next. INherent fucking guilt. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I made that statement because on the internet, when you are wrong, people tell you. On August 20 2013 20:18 Koshi wrote: The self-aware miller should claim though. Dnu why he shouldn't claim instantly. Silly role. It was sort of asking people if I should claim or not. Then I decided I should just wait longer. But then you came in and you made that case and I thought PERFECT! | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I guess I misremembered. I have to rethink what I've said about Koshi now especially in light of his bad breadcrumbing (I've dont this pretty poorly before as well). | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your case is debunked from Basterd mini mafia where i immediately asked all millers to claim (we knew there was 0-2 millers). So why didn't you say you had learned in the first place?!?! without all these previous explanations. The fucking backflips continue. Now you are altering your entire argument and the whole premise of your original explanation is quickly dismissed in favor of when that isn't flagrantly fallacious. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also let go of Koshi, he is town. Somebody remind me whether its town or scum who know the alignment of all players at the start of the game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On August 20 2013 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Hows self-aware-miller breadcrumbing possible? There's no way. Koshi scumclaimed for absolutely no reason. Somebody remind me whether its town or scum who know the alignment of all players at the start of the game. It's totally possible Sn0, I've done it. Badly. Let me dig up the game and the posts. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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