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On August 31 2013 01:37 VayneAuthority wrote: Also I have a very good reason to play very pro-town this game, so get off my nuts ty already showed in my first post through elegant trickery that i'm not scum Why does he have to shout to everyone "Hey guys I'm playing pro-town". When the obvious best thing to do was be reasonable and continue scum hunting. He does that immediately after anyways. So that makes me think why reveal at all? Another thing that struck out to me was On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote: cephiro, felkyr, obviousone all scum lol this game is easy so far cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post. Felkyr - how long did it take you to make that entrance post, an hour? obviousone - Instead of going with town sentiment and finding me scummy he immediately jumps to a 3rd party conclusion since he knows I'm not on his scumteam. Very strange conclusion to draw this early in the game. Bold mine. When reading though the thread I don't feel like there was any town sentiment that Vayne was scummy at the time. Did I just read the thread wrong/forgot about it in the 500+ posts I read, or was there actually town sentiment who wanted vayne lynched? | ||
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On August 31 2013 04:47 VayneAuthority wrote: we've played together before. I was blindalbino in TL mafia II. I can take on many different personalities. Oh god, I hated that game. So imbalanced! | ||
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On August 31 2013 08:40 strongandbig wrote: i still can't decide what to do with geript. randombum i choose you! Why does his claim mean I should vote for him. well to begin with I didn't like anything he said at the start, but I didn't do too much since early d1 means very little. And it's not necessarily not his claim that I dislike. But read his next four posts after the claim. He's completely stopped trying to offer the town anything. That on top of my gut reading is enough for me to vote him. | ||
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I personally want to believe you weren't trying to get him to quit, because winning by being so unfun to play with that others quit is no good. | ||
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Outside of cheesecake what are your feelings. What about geript since he's the forerunner at the moment. | ||
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First thing's first I still believe geript is scum. There's just this sense of not caring about the lynch. Then there's the fact that he basically wasted everybody's time with his un-lynchable claim (which was a lie) and subsequent discussion about it. He eliminated a lot of town information by using this ability so early. As he said On September 01 2013 06:51 geript wrote: Vote placement is completely inconsequential and doesn't matter in the slightest. People should wholly disregard a large majority of the votes today. Vote placement is normally a good source of information for town since when somebody flips we know his alignment and who voted/pushed for him. And it doesn't help that he killed a townie. Basically, everything he did day 1 has hurt town. He wasted our time, denied us information, and killed a town player. | ||
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I could also get behind a slam lynch because while there's possible reasons a town would use his item I don't really see any likely ones. Then again, there's even less likely reasons for a scum to tell the thread that he's going to do so. Dunno, I guess everybody saying he's unreadable is true. Hiropro- I see why people would be voting for him, but I don't think I find any cases compelling. All that shit about brown and is pretty scummy, but he has recently started to do other stuff and actually scum-hunt. Also, I'm suspicious of risen because he pretty much ignored me and has since still failed to do much in this game. Don't think he's a likely lynch at this point though. Current thoughts on my lynch preference would be something like Geript>>>hassy/slam>Risen. | ||
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That's like the definition of scum? Make it as difficult as possible for town to win. | ||
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##vote risen I would still happily support a lynch on any of these 4 with geript still being my top choice. | ||
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On September 04 2013 04:16 Clarity_nl wrote: Or this dude, holy fuck. "yeah well, there's 4 possible lynches that I have nothing to do with and all of them are fine, but let me put my vote on risen as PRESSURE so that he does something" I've been on geript since forever, slam/hassy seem to be what the thread is heading towards and who I had commented on before. So, comment on thread sentiment is wrong, following up my previous statements is wrong, and start on somebody else is wrong. What am I suppose to do? Come up with a huge case on somebody who hasn't been considered at all and try to swing enough people in under 5 hours to get him lynched when my top scum target is still alive? You've been on my ass all game clarity it's getting annoying. | ||
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On September 04 2013 04:33 Clarity_nl wrote: Dude you just said you feel better about hassy and slam but you're still okay with their lynches. Why does no one want to lynch this guy?!?!? Better as where before I had slam/hassy > risen it's not Risen> slam/hassy I'm still not fans of them. Are you purposely missing the point | ||
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On September 04 2013 05:13 Risen wrote: So while geript is still your number one scum read you're still trying to make the vote counts appear skewed? Why? Pressure? Or trying to save a scum buddy. If Geript is lynched and flips red random needs to go next. If I wanted to save geript, I would have voted for hassy or hiro, both who could easily be lynched today and who have had more votes than gript. | ||
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Then there's his wanting to lynch of me. This is the only post where he has a reason for wanting to lynch me. On September 03 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: randombum's case on vayne was shit, he never tells why anything he says makes vayne scum (and vayne is totes town). Other than that there is nothing much than some random questions from random people and and vote on geript (i don't think that's alignment indicative). Could be scum. His only post of substance regarding me way early in the game and it ends on could be scum. Note the bolded, he is convinced vayne is town when he has since flipped 3p. A scum would know he's not scum and assume town. Actually, I went and looked up what he had to say about vayne this game and it's so flip-floppy. He starts out wanting vayne lynched, but then he suddenly really doens't want vayne lynched instead he wants to find out who vayne would likely target so he knows when the best time for scum to kill him is. + Show Spoiler + On August 30 2013 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: vayne's first post was quite weird for town!vayne. Wahtddya think Koshi and Clarity? On August 30 2013 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, good that we are on the same page. :D Want to lynch vayne? On August 30 2013 19:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: When vayne cares about the game from the beginning it's alarming. I never want to lynch WoS anymore, ever. No, but for real, why WoS? On August 31 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: vayne, a couple of things: - Why do you call out Cephiro especially when multiple people have expressed wanting to lynch you because of you entrance to the game, and told it does not make sense for you as town. - Your read on OO especially makes me think you are mafia. No more to be said on that matter yet. Then after vayne claims. On September 02 2013 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you are saying we purposely let geript play like shit and then tried to lynch Felkyr as an opposing wagon? I wasn't even here, did you even look at how my vote ended up on Felkyr and then on geript? Also Clarity, vayne and Koshi are not scum for sure. On September 04 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also why the fuck are you attacking Vayne Cephiro? On September 04 2013 10:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why the fuck do you want to lynch a townie? Seriously? On September 04 2013 11:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will make sure this is the quote everyone remembers when me and vayne flip. I will make damn sure you feel bad and wrong because you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. That being said i am not sure about Oats. His only reasoning for not wanting to lynch vayne anymore is because he believed his claim. You know what, that's not terrible instant scum reasoning, but look at what he tries to get out of it later. On August 31 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you mean Cephiro and Felkyr? Have those guys played with you before? I think their thought process seems reasonable. Sadly, given your appereance in this game, it does not tell anything about their alignment. On August 31 2013 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are not achieving anything by throwing shit at vayne. Stop it right now. It will only lead into shitfest that definitely does not help us finding scum. vayne, could you look at my post, did you mean Cephiro and Felkyr? On August 31 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: I had a town read on Cephiro earlier for his pressure on geript. Looking at it now the read has weakened, as he is calling geript out for reasons i do not think geript is scum for and he is sticking to them. I do not understand his reasons attacking you (someone not saying "i'm town" does not make then scum). I do not understand his reasons attacking yamato, yet that's a minor point. Him asking Koshi to give the item to him makes me lean town on him again, i don't see scum straight up asking something like that. I can understand his reasons (after the initial "you did not say you are town"-failure) for thinking you are mafia if he has not played with you before. I do not think he said he is "okay with a lurker lynch" as you present it. I think he said pretty much the opposite (that he is not okay with lurker lynch). Overall i do not think he is scum atm. What makes you strongly think he is scum? What about Felkyr? btw i gotta go for couple of hours, i'll get back to you after that. Trying to push vayne towards certain targets so he can kill vayne and get free town kills out of his role. In particular he wanted felkr dead who has a green check. Anyways, back to him trying to lynch me + Show Spoiler + On September 04 2013 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript + randombum/alakaslam/hassy. I would like to hear more from them. Also debears looks bad to me. My vote is on geript and will stay there. On September 04 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why are you lynching Hassy? Lynch geript! Lynch alakaslam/randombum/whoever Why Hassy? What is the motivation for his actions as mafia? On September 05 2013 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: From the other thread i think randombum, Cephiro and MrZentor are scum, maybe even WoS. I think what's gonna happen there is town lynch, unfortunately. Clarity, i think your post before the deadline was good. Who do you think we should lynch? Slam/debears? I am okay with either one of them. On September 07 2013 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: The other thread lynch randombum!! On September 07 2013 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mr.CC: Make those fuckers lynch randombum. He is likely to be scum. We get info from voting patterns. Someone might even be able t reveal his alignment post-death. On September 09 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could lynch Zentor or randombum the most. On September 09 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Vote: randombum I think we should lynch him. Why did WoS go silent on ShiaoPi last night? Is he scum too? On September 09 2013 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: In case the cop who copped ShioPi and Felkyr is legit i pretty much see no other options for scum than randombum and WoS. Everyone else looks more or less town. On September 09 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Don't forget randombum and today's lynch. :D That's it, not a single reason. His last actual comment about me was over 5 days ago and it concluded maybe. He doesn't actually have reasons to think I'm scum, he just notices that some people do and so he would join an easy mislynch. Outside of pokemon what exactly has he done? He's voted geript (not that I blame him for this one) he tried to save OO and get a not scum debears lynched. Going over his filter I haven't seen one thing that helps town. All his votes and pushes have been on town or to save scum. He claims town pokemon trainer and gets tons of town cred for it because why would a scum trainer out himself like this?. But now there's this On September 09 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all me being alive is not a reason for me being scum. The rest of the post makes no sense and i useless speculation. There is not a single reason why i am scum. If we kill the mafia pokemon dude, i become pretty much confirmed town. There is not a single reason why should i have claimed as scum. There is not a single reason why the other guy would be town. The suggestion that "rayn is playing with the hosts" is absurd and dumb. Mafia can't NK me, because doing that does not kill me until all my pokemons are dead. They need to lynch me. That's why they try to lynch me. I am not here "doing nothing". Just because i don't make big posts with townreads and shit does not mean i am scum. Mafia cannot kill the other pokemon trainer, so they need to fish him out so they can lynch him. The only reason he got so much town cred is because no town trainer counterclaimed him, but a town pokemon trainer would paint a giant ass target on himself to scum who have a much better chance of getting a mislynch if it comes down to a coinflip, or if worse case scenerio mafia scum find town trainer and don't waste night shots on him. This is assuming he isn't making the whole thing up. If you take pokemon away everything he has done has been hurting town. | ||
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Why would I warn mafia that I really want to lynch one of their members so they can kill me? | ||
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On September 09 2013 08:18 randombum wrote: Also, rayne, please adress how you tried to save OO, the flip flop on vayne into trying to control his actions. And feel free to point out what else you have done this game besides pokemon. Since I know you've read it, can you stop avoiding. On September 09 2013 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: No Clarity, we lynch the other dude or randombum, because there is no way scum would be claiming now unless: 1) They have no other chance of winning and randombum is scum. 2) Some other big play There just is no reason why Stutters would out this shit now, or why "suddenly the other guy is claiming", like do they think randombum is town? wtf? The only conclusion is that it's town claiming now. | ||
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Zentor is super scummy looking to me, but he's going to flip anyways so let's leave it at that. There's something super fishy going on between zentor/hiro/ceph. Ceph has been all buddy buddy with zentor all game except now he wants to day vig him. Like I don't understand why somebody would day kill somebody they have been defending without warning and the person told to actually does it. These three are even fishier because all three of them wanted to vote me in casket for nothing essentially, but when they saw the other four people were not going to do it happening they abandoned ship pretty fast. I don't think anybody else is really worth mentioning at the moment since they are not likely lynch targets unless stutters' reveal is crazy. | ||
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On September 10 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: what are you talking about, i have been wanting to lynch randombum two day phases in a row? I am not against Hiro lynch. Why exactly have you been trying to hard to get me lynched for 2 day cylces. You haven't posted a single reason outside of what you said over 6 days ago. All you do is keep shouting "Lynch randombum!" I point out reasons that not only have you also been useless rayne, but what you have tried to do has been actively anti-town, but nobody cares. The only reason it looks like I'm more of a candidate today than you is because I don't say every 2 hours "Lynch Rayne!" This is why I hate playing town as mafia. Nobody cares what you say or how you say it. It only depends on how often you say something. Whenever I get town scum always targets me as a easy mislynch and I always catch them doing it, but it doesn't matter because I'm not around to yell it out often enough. When I try to do something nobody reads it or responds to it. Except cakepie. He's 100% town in my eyes. Can somebody actually point to something rayne has done besides pokemon, yell to lynch me with no reasoning, or anything in general that helped town? For god sakes he's one of the 2 players in the game who both didn't vote for slam and voted dabears. The other has (felkr) a green check on him. | ||
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On September 10 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: randombum you are so bad or scum. I don't even care to answer because what you are saying is bullshit. I have been the most involved player in todays lynch, you are the guy who is shouting a week old reasons for lynching me, something that apparently didn't exist for you before today.  It's a week old reason because that's the last time YOU gave a reason for wanting me lynched. You have tunneled me non-stop and the last reason you gave has been over a week old. It's the easiest thing as scum to do. Find a bullshit or in your case non-existant reason to push somebody. Do nothing bu say "lynch this guy!" all game to seem like your active, but not actually take place in pushing for his lynch. | ||
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Very likely. I would be very suprised if the ceph/hiro/zentor trio didn't have at least 1 if not 2 mafia. | ||
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1: Ceph finds hiro town 2: Ceph thinks zentor is scum 3: Ceph has two items a kp and and item A 4: Ceph cannot use item A 5: Give kp to town read and item A to scum read 6: Have town read retrieve Item A by kill scum read. I don't accept part 1 though. How exactly is hiro town? | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Did Hiro ever question hammering Zentor? Was he apprehensive about it? Or was it LOLHAMMER Pretty sure it was LOLHAMMER. | ||
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Took a minute for target name to target dead. | ||
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On September 10 2013 06:24 Clarity_nl wrote: He IMMEDIATELY crushed zentor without even a question of why. If he's scum with zentor why would he do that?!? Because he planned ahead of time before answering he was here who he would be willing to crush. | ||
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There's not much else in hiro's play that really points him as town. I mean even this day when he's becoming a major lynch target all he is doing is sheeping you. | ||
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I assume it's not possible we can consolidate on rayne? I'm one of the few that actually think he's scum? | ||
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Hiro's brown shit was bad, and his not caring today accept to sheep ceph is also really shitty. zentor ninja vote is really wtf too. I'm also scared if hiro IS scum then we lose since w/e ceph gave zentor would be super scary in scum hands.. arrrgh | ||
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On September 11 2013 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok some random questions/comment: What was up with Black Mesa? WHO THE FUCK WAS YI Is 8-man scumteam and that many 3P really balanced? ( I assume it is given town roles but jeez) Town and scum each having basically a 6-shot vet? Wat? I don't think my body was quite ready for the chaos that happens in an Aperture game. (Speaking of Chaos...what was that? Was it used?) Also, I find anger works really really well for me. No hard feelings Axle? I didn't mean any of it, I swear! :D I wanna know this too. Pretty sure YI was felkr. | ||
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