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@WoS - you seem to be wasting your vote; sometimes the best weapon you can have is patience. Care to explain the enormous anger at people not being here for the first 12 hours of the game? You also have experience playing scum with Vayne, do you think he's on his own team? Why specifically vote Shiao-Pi? P.S. @Alakaslam - damn, dude, I can BARELY understand you. Please try to clean it up a bit and cut it out with the fucking youtube videos, it makes safari mobile lag. THX | ||
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On August 31 2013 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2013 02:34 ObviousOne wrote: Cheesecake enters and the thread stops cold? Yeah pretty much that's what happens because I called out scum and everyone is mindfucked. I'm just getting my mind through the journey of Vayne probably town. What you think of VE? I'm notoriously bad at reading him, give me your two cents. | ||
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On August 31 2013 02:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2013 02:38 ObviousOne wrote: On August 31 2013 02:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On August 31 2013 02:34 ObviousOne wrote: Cheesecake enters and the thread stops cold? Yeah pretty much that's what happens because I called out scum and everyone is mindfucked. I'm just getting my mind through the journey of Vayne probably town. What you think of VE? I'm notoriously bad at reading him, give me your two cents. I've played with VE as scum and town before. Reading him D1 is meh unless he does something really stupid, and I think I have a clue on how to find he's scum from Nomination (we were scumbuddies). I'd rather not reveal that tell atm. He is also infamous for claiming at stupid times. Which unfortunately isn't alignment indicative. Usually my gut read is 180 from reality and I'm feeling town on him for not trying to bury VA immediately during the recent discussion. I almost trust my gut here, this time. I'll give you time to see what you see. Lol @ claim thing gotta love it. Oats giving me the heebie-jeebies cause I don't have a good handle on him yet. He and I seem to agree on Dandel at the least so that's something. | ||
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On August 31 2013 02:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2013 00:36 ObviousOne wrote: Vayne 3P? Not like town self, not like scum self. Dandel town, get off his nuts. He'd be like "lel you got me" as soon as people started eying him if he was scum. Also this bullshit about his role changing based on being a replacement is hilarious and anyone encouraging that conversation needs their head checked. @WoS - you seem to be wasting your vote; sometimes the best weapon you can have is patience. Care to explain the enormous anger at people not being here for the first 12 hours of the game? You also have experience playing scum with Vayne, do you think he's on his own team? Why specifically vote Shiao-Pi? P.S. @Alakaslam - damn, dude, I can BARELY understand you. Please try to clean it up a bit and cut it out with the fucking youtube videos, it makes safari mobile lag. THX The 3P stuff is stupid, but not alignment indicative. Asks OK questions but never really follows up and is inactive. Cephiro is actually doing things and posting. Rather lynch Obviousone over Ceph if you're concerned about that. :O | ||
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On August 31 2013 03:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2013 02:59 ObviousOne wrote: On August 31 2013 02:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On August 31 2013 00:36 ObviousOne wrote: Vayne 3P? Not like town self, not like scum self. Dandel town, get off his nuts. He'd be like "lel you got me" as soon as people started eying him if he was scum. Also this bullshit about his role changing based on being a replacement is hilarious and anyone encouraging that conversation needs their head checked. @WoS - you seem to be wasting your vote; sometimes the best weapon you can have is patience. Care to explain the enormous anger at people not being here for the first 12 hours of the game? You also have experience playing scum with Vayne, do you think he's on his own team? Why specifically vote Shiao-Pi? P.S. @Alakaslam - damn, dude, I can BARELY understand you. Please try to clean it up a bit and cut it out with the fucking youtube videos, it makes safari mobile lag. THX The 3P stuff is stupid, but not alignment indicative. Asks OK questions but never really follows up and is inactive. Cephiro is actually doing things and posting. Rather lynch Obviousone over Ceph if you're concerned about that. :O Umad? Who is scum and why? SNB, wants to lynch half of the game today: On August 31 2013 00:02 strongandbig wrote: Okay I read the stuff that got posted while I was reading the thread. Kita plz. If you're town, DI is a terrible target for a troll policy lynch. Better targets are alakaslam, cep hiro at this point, vayne. But policy lynching dandel is useless since he gives up as scum anyway. Kill list: wos, Kita, bh, anyone with less posts than me. Gogo Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game. | ||
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On August 31 2013 03:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2013 03:13 ObviousOne wrote: On August 31 2013 03:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On August 31 2013 02:59 ObviousOne wrote: On August 31 2013 02:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On August 31 2013 00:36 ObviousOne wrote: Vayne 3P? Not like town self, not like scum self. Dandel town, get off his nuts. He'd be like "lel you got me" as soon as people started eying him if he was scum. Also this bullshit about his role changing based on being a replacement is hilarious and anyone encouraging that conversation needs their head checked. @WoS - you seem to be wasting your vote; sometimes the best weapon you can have is patience. Care to explain the enormous anger at people not being here for the first 12 hours of the game? You also have experience playing scum with Vayne, do you think he's on his own team? Why specifically vote Shiao-Pi? P.S. @Alakaslam - damn, dude, I can BARELY understand you. Please try to clean it up a bit and cut it out with the fucking youtube videos, it makes safari mobile lag. THX The 3P stuff is stupid, but not alignment indicative. Asks OK questions but never really follows up and is inactive. Cephiro is actually doing things and posting. Rather lynch Obviousone over Ceph if you're concerned about that. :O Umad? Who is scum and why? SNB, wants to lynch half of the game today: On August 31 2013 00:02 strongandbig wrote: Okay I read the stuff that got posted while I was reading the thread. Kita plz. If you're town, DI is a terrible target for a troll policy lynch. Better targets are alakaslam, cep hiro at this point, vayne. But policy lynching dandel is useless since he gives up as scum anyway. Kill list: wos, Kita, bh, anyone with less posts than me. Gogo Or your guy Felkyr, though there's something to perhaps counter that. Once upon a time, VE apologized before leaving for having to leave the thread to go to work and people went nuts on him, and he was town. He was just being courteous. Is Felkyr just being courteous in the post you quoted? Like, just out of virtue of who he is? Can't know, first game. So what you're saying it, coinflip essentially. I'm down with coinflips D1 so they can't be coinflips at lylo. Town wants to lynch half the game because there are scum everywhere. I want to lynch half the game because flips are awesome, and I can feel good about myself if they flip red. SNB not mafia for now. BH maybe mafia. If you want coinflip, let's kill cakepie. I mean, talk about a name that can't decide which of two things it is. | ||
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On August 31 2013 03:17 Oatsmaster wrote: OO, the main reason I wanna lynch felkyr is cause he talks about 0 scum in his opening post and instead focuses on setup speculation, easiest shit in the world for scum to do. Why is everyone saying im scummy. Im depressed that low activity = scummy. I'm not used to your not having 13 pages day one (exaggeration ofc) but I don't think it makes you mafia. A lot easier to make a snap judgement when you do have a bunch of pages of stuff to read through, though | ||
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On August 30 2013 23:48 ShiaoPi wrote: hai guys catching up On August 31 2013 00:06 ShiaoPi wrote: skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read ##Vote: WaveofShadow Maybe this one if it's going to live in a perpetual state of catch-up? It's hard to pick. WOS voted Shiao back, this whole thing kinda went nowhere. Can we get some resolution between you two? Hug it out? Fight it out? 20 paces and draw lightsabers? | ||
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On September 01 2013 01:54 Dandel Ion wrote: It's like you talk about why geript is best lynch and how felky's last post looks townie, so obviously it makes complete sense to vote felky over geript because that makes sense and makes complete sense. I like Dandel. Dandel voting geript. ##sheep and ##sleep ##vote geript | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote: Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. Axle, I presume you wanted scum to vote for you so that you could find out who they were if they had voted for you, or at least this is what you want us to believe (not saying this in a negative way, perhaps you posited this plan to instill fear and get reactions). Hiro is scum.
On September 01 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan? probably because they're both scum. I got you bbygrl Tomorrow we are lynching Hiro. | ||
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On September 03 2013 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript is totally awful. town!geript is not awful, kill him asap. Okay so let's take a gander at geript specifically to see what he's being awful about: On September 01 2013 04:59 geript wrote: Ok guys so here's the lowdown of what's happening. BH is getting lynched whether you like it or not. I didn't like how he came in to 'defend' me and Cora. He absolutely loves, as scum, to defend town based on random bullshit meta stuff. Normally, he'd either push me harder to try and get me to show my agenda and alignment while pushing his own preference on Ceph. I don't like Ceph much either and strongly considered lynching him instead, but BH just keeps on giving me the heeby-jeebies. I've had my play planned out from the start of when I read the role and we get a freebie scum lynch whether or not you like my play. So you might as well start discussing the second person you want to lynch because I'm going to keep on pulling shennanies until the fate hits the limit where I turn off. BH's classic scum tell only works when he's actively (and more importantly, ABUSIVELY) trying to get another player lynched at the same time. We saw this in Carnival where BH (as mafia) was tunneling the shit out of both WoS or eventually me while defending grush (who was town). Who was BH abusing after Cora replaced out? Nobody was getting burned hard by BH after that, so this tell which geript was using was incomplete and obviously ended up being wrong. Other than that geript is mostly bullheaded in the rest of his filter, plus this one addendum which I think needs to be brought up here: On September 03 2013 05:14 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On September 03 2013 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: On September 03 2013 04:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On September 03 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: I still do not know what the case on Oats is? 180's? In summary, Oats said Geript was super town and should not be lynched because he will flip town. He didn't stop Geript from monopolizing the lynch and picking his target in BH. BH dies. Geript is now confirmed scum because he lynched town BH. It could just Oats being retarded but I'm not sure. I still want to lynch alakaslam more :D That's exactly what Oats does as town. Full 180's. He does not do that as scum. Also he does not call half of the people town or scum with no reasoning in the first half of D1 as scum. I want to lynch Rayn just solely for writing this post. Rayn isn't this fucking stupid. Rayn knows that Oats pulls crazy shit as town, but he's far more loud and obnoxious. I've seen Oats as both town and scum and I'd put money on scum. Rayn defending him is quite eye-opening. Either geript is being terrible here (because I don't see Oats being mafia and I'm the resident meta expert on Oats and he is somehow still fucking null to me) or purposefully misusing meta in a second circumstance. Wanting to lynch Rayn for being "this fucking stupid" is really the pot calling the kettle black. Rayn probably town because I don't see him going out of his way like he did in our past game together where we were mafia to interact and cast doubt on his scum buddies, and I think he is right about geript being intentionally wrong/bad. Geript does not seem to give any fucks at all when it comes to things that affect everyone. He's going to do what he wants to do and that's that. | ||
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On September 03 2013 00:05 debears wrote: If we do decide on my super stylin plan, let me know within 7 hours or so. Put it this way clarity. 1) If I was mafia and geript was town, it would be stupid for me to even bring up my power. If a majority tell me to do it, and I don't, I'm claiming mafia. I wasn't really at threat of being lynched yet. Geript would be lynched eventually based on his day 1. 2) If we were both mafia, full retard move Holy shit, read through debears, you're the fucking MAN. You're like our little pet baneling! (Or were, at least for today =P) + Show Spoiler + | ||
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On September 03 2013 03:58 Cephiro wrote: Aight. Going to have a long call soon, but I've read everything multiple times and up-to-date. If you have questions about my opinions regarding someone, ask. I will most likely share my view. Oats needs to get lynched. Explain the ever-loving shit out of this, in great detail, to me please. Thanks. | ||
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On September 02 2013 03:11 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On September 02 2013 03:02 Cephiro wrote: On September 02 2013 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote: I was one of the initial pushers on Felkyr and got people off geript for a while until he came back to the thread. CONTRIBUTION GUYS. So you're saying "got people off geript" as it would have been a merit, yet your latest opinions state you want him dead? One of the initial sheeps you mean? I just checked again to be sure, and after seeing at least 3 people before you I stopped reading further back. One of the few people you've pressured a little, yet you haven't seemingly cared about him at all in a while. And you still think it's a merit for you? You read my filter. And you didnt see that I think Felkyr town? Yeah bullshit. It means that I was pushing something rather than you said I was just staying back and not being useful. ceph scum, Ezpz. On September 03 2013 04:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Why isnt ceph happening? All he's done since d1 is post a horrible case, and say "LYNCH OATS" I liked OO's case on Hiro, but thats IT. Random seems too useless to be scum Cakepie seems like noob town as does felkyr. Risen is the person I think would flip scum out of all of that. So which is it, Ceph or geript? You seem to think everyone wants geript dead but then you complain when cephiro isn't happening. I see one point from you regarding Ceph and you seem to think everyone agrees when it's also in the air that people think you are scum. Why should I trust you on Ceph when you're not even trying to make it happen, just complaining that it isn't? | ||
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On September 03 2013 09:30 kitaman27 wrote: You guys know you're still allowed to post while we wait, right? So many people that I'm looking at don't even have posts today. I also think I might have to take back my policy of ignoring Alakaslam. Koshi clearly announced in the thread that he had a plan to give the talisman to a player who could use the role in a beneficial way and then decided to use his item switch role anyways because "he had to at some point". OO, are you saying that you think debears plan is a good one? I think debears power is better on a day where there isn't a double lynch, but I think he's town as fuck for offering. I am pretty sure he can't do it anymore since he said he had 7 hours to submit (guessing it needs to be done before half the day is over). His plan might have been good if there was a clear early candidate for debears to choose from, but he needed our support to pull it off. | ||
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On August 07 2013 23:39 GreYMisT wrote: Format of Role PMs is as follows: Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You areName/Name/Name/Name/Name. Some or No Flavor Text. Explanation of abilities if applicable. Okay, just looking at this, let's not compare role PMs because that's against the rules but to keep an eye out on further flips. There is BOLD black and there is ITALIC black specified here. There could be two separate things that would come up as black role text. Two black-named "factions"? | ||
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On September 03 2013 10:16 WaveofShadow wrote: Show nested quote + On September 03 2013 10:08 kitaman27 wrote: On September 03 2013 09:58 WaveofShadow wrote: On September 03 2013 09:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: On September 03 2013 09:50 kitaman27 wrote: On September 03 2013 09:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Well that actually sucks for him =\ Why does Hassy not look good? Who acted on VE? Hassy claimed to have tried to protect VE. My role reveals all actions on VE. Hassy's protection was not there. All the proof you need. Why would he lie about that as mafia, though? Towncred seems like the most obvious answer. Also hai guise I back. Who were the last few people to call kita scum? I'm kind of curious now. S&B was 0/3 with his suspicions of BH, VE, and myself and his response to dandel about how he will "do the opposite of all those anti-town things you just mentioned" was a bit unnecessary to say. You deciding that I was town based on my BM discussion was just as concerning however. austin is quite possibly mafia based on his suspicion, but unwillingness to follow through, which is essentially what he was attacking me on. I really wish the thread didn't die for the last five hours. There are so many people like Risen that are being completely ignored. When did I decide you were town? OO didn't show up until attention was brought towards him by Hiro, btw, so it's not just Risen. I don't really think Risen is scum though. OO didn't show up until he woke up, you mean. | ||
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On September 03 2013 11:02 HiroPro wrote: vayne, from what I can gather from alakaslam, the guy has been worshiping Blazinghand as a god for his entire mafia existence. It's entirely possible that he just threw a fit as town when his idol got killed. Hassy probably needs to die even without kita's piece of evidence. Unless he does something drastically different with his play or something to explain the non-action comes up, one of the lynches needs to go on him. Also, I want everyone to notice something very important about ObviousOne's play today. I am currently the leading vote getter and with the voting system very likely to be lynched today. During the night we got a post from ObviousOne like this: Show nested quote + On September 01 2013 16:14 ObviousOne wrote: [stuff] Hiro is scum. [stuff] On September 01 2013 08:23 Blazinghand wrote: On September 01 2013 08:23 Clarity_nl wrote: Why are Cephiro and Hiro so against axle's plan? probably because they're both scum. I got you bbygrl Tomorrow we are lynching Hiro. Everything about it suggests that I'm his number 1 mafia read and going to be pursued today. Yet now, despite being the biggest target of the day, he hasn't voted for me or said anything about my recent play. There's been no mention of whether his opinion has changed or strengthened. Hell, he hasn't even mentioned my name. It's like his biggest mafia read just vanished into thin air. This strikes me as extremely suspicious. The other lynch we have for today needs to go on him. ##Unvote ##Vote ObviousOne Are you sure you're the only scum? So I can stop looking with you? Okay, cool. | ||
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On September 04 2013 09:50 debears wrote: This is the most convincing case I have ever seen in this history of my time on this forum. Not only is its beauty something to behold, but the complexities of the diagram and the elucidating factors are clearly defined in a way that words simply cannot describe. Simply put, debears has surpassed the art of Blazinghand and taken it to a new level of magnificence. Astounding, sir. Bravo! My Hiro situation: Strong stances on controversial players. Not a fan overall of his push on what he seems to deign as shit-tier players but that's one way to go about it. Pressure! and stuff. Right on. The only agenda I can identify with Hiro is that he's using a vaguely disguised but not-really-disguised push on lurkers to get them to contribute or die. Cool. I'm done pushing for your lynch and I have other interests in mind. On September 04 2013 03:37 HiroPro wrote: [snip] Can anyone point to a single thing all game long that Risen has done to make them think he's town or actually contribute in any way? He's perfectly capable of putting in effort and being useful( unlike some of these other do-nothings). Multiple players have called him suspicious yet not a single vote has actually gone on him. This doesn't strike anyone else as suspicious? If we're not going to lynch obviousone (which doesnt seem likely) i'll back a risen lynch. I'm going to just tell you flat out: I signed up for this game so that Noir could start sooner. I'm not a fan of large games in the slightest, so even signing up for that game was a comfort zone stretch for me. Themed games are okay-ish but this setup is completely closed and that can cause me to ask questions that the hosts can't even answer. So all this discussion about who or what Black Mesa is, who or how actions occur around, none of that matters a single bit to me. Should try to take some cues from Vayne and get your classic on once in a while. So while ya'll are super excited when things get weird and try to solve the puzzle(s), it's just a bigger headache for me to wade through that nonsense. So with that. 1. Where the sweet fuck is coag? We trading inactives for inactives? 2. Hi VE. Please put the circle on me. We'll call it the circle of trust. 3. Cakepie: + Show Spoiler [reference] + On September 03 2013 17:20 cakepie wrote: I've an uneasy feeling that geript could be just a disposable front man for the scum team. His IDGAF does not look like "upset" IDGAF, or "big play failed, give up" IDGAF, it looks more of a "fuck you all" IDGAF. D1 he claimed to have planned his scum playstle ahead of time, but BH bled blue, and instead of offering any explanation or trying to be more helpful, geript basically decides to publicly, explicitly, overtly give town the finger. His contribution appears limited to mentions of a few people he thinks are suspicious for various meta or setup specuatiion reasons, but it's mostly a re-hash of this list and it's not like he actually pushes anyone for anything. Instead, he (claims to) give us a double lynch, and stops caring because his voting power is apparently -1 for the day. I don't have good meta on him, but my gut feel is this is not simply he mad at things not going well -- seasoned players don't normally react like this. So, I see hardly any good reason for deliberate play like this for any reason, except as a joker (trying to get lynched) or as part of a scum gambit. Since it's rather unlikely that 3P can pull off all this crap by himself, I'm leaning toward the latter. Also recall that the possibility has been raised before that he might not even be the one truly responsible for the voterigging and/or the double lynch. Also, thinking about the double plurality lynch, I'm not sure it is entirely a good thing for town, because it is easy for town to mislynch (up to twice!) since there is no requirement for a majority. In the absence of information from D1, this is a bit scary. If I put my scum thinking hat on, it's really not a bad deal, gambling on possibly sacrificing one team member to help conceal other scumbuddies who hold powers, plus completely mess with the thread and voting patterns for two day phases. By screwing with the D1 lynch, scum sought to limit useful information. By making D2 double plurality lynch, scum put us in a lousy position -- even if geript takes a bunch of heat and we agree to lynch him, that would require us to commit a certain number of votes on him, and from there the danger of mislynching with the second noose is still high if we don't consolidate correctly. Hence he isn't even trolling, he is pretty much taunting when he states things like the D1 votes don't matter, or challenges us to lynch him with the double lynch. Does this sound reasonable or am I just being absurd and paranoid? Notwithstanding geript, do people agree that we need to be especially careful with the double lynch? On September 03 2013 20:20 cakepie wrote: Show nested quote + On September 03 2013 19:01 AxleGreaser wrote: perhaps by giving geript that kind of control and Alak a randomiser button marked "Dont press this button" then we are getting the RNG game we or someone(Dandel loves RNG IIRC) deserves? maybe we are playing aperture and got what we each signed up for. lol thanks that helped me lighten up a bit. More seriously do you agree that double lynch is actually a tricky situation? At the very least, this is not the time to be toying around with a repeat attempt at your shenanigans (which you suggested at some point earlier D2) -- if it is hard enough to find two clear consensus wagons, we might really need all the votes we can get where they matter -- lynching people rather than toying with powers. It certainly wouldn't be funny if you ended up getting mislynched (though that's rather unlikely). The downside is we might not get another chance to try your plan if we lose you tonight. About Alakaslam, on D1 clearly showed signs of being item/power drunk, I just wish we'd paid more attention -- he doesn't help by being so unintelligible, but he did state his intentions and the trigger condition beforehand. Bloody stupid selfish attention-seeking plan or scummy act? He seems repentant, at least, with a coherent (if incredibly stupid) story, whereas geript still doesn't give a shit. If I had to choose between Alakaslam and geript, Imma lynch into geript first. --- Show nested quote + On September 03 2013 20:09 Koshi wrote: I still don't understand this chronosphere thing he keeps talking about. It seems to be charging... Show nested quote + On September 03 2013 15:05 Alakaslam wrote: came back not reading much not caring rather all giddy with "I must follow through on my promise" and making up C&C RA fake flavor & stuff because I always thought the chronosphere story was awesome if the actual building/power in game basically sucked. Basically, chronosphere is all bollocks from slam, if I understand correctly. I'm glad you enjoyed some levity (as I have had with this amazing depiction from debears) you seemed awful interested in asking a rhetorical question so much that you had to ask it twice: "we should really be careful with a double lynch, don't you agree?" You padded it up nicely but you never seemed to move forward. In fact, a lot of your most recent posts seem to be rhetorical in nature. It looks to me like you are participating without contributing outside of weighing in on the geript situation. Your opportunistic leap on Hiro some time after my original statement of intent to vote cites BH as your reason and... that's it? Sheep the dead townie? No effort put forward on your own to sell the case? Dead townies don't campaign for lynches themselves. For all intents and purposes, you're effectively inert while you're participating and that's making me think you're just shooting the breeze to stay off the radar. I notice you don't really point make a fuss over the less active players, either, which strengthens my point. Your most redeeming quality in my eyes is this post where you cite that Hiro seemed to have foreknowledge of the player list changing. He may or may not have, but my basic knowledge of Chezinu is that Chezinu likes lists and that was an interesting spontaneous post from Hiro. I'd like to see some more... chutzpa from you since you're so eager to participate in quantity. Less wheels-spinning. Be less coin-flippy. You get a day to change my mind because there are more important things to attend to. Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this. | ||
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On September 05 2013 15:28 ShiaoPi wrote: Lets lynch OO?! ##Vote: ObviousOne Naaah. Might help if you opened up MSPaint and created a impressionist diorama akin to debears, at least it'll be worth a chuckle. Maybe you should be voting for the 'slam dunk? if you miss the pun i'm sorry, I had to | ||
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On September 06 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes. Tell me where to look. I'm confused as hell right now. I trust you the most out of anyone this game. Slam just got pulled out from under me. I figured I would look at Risen but you're firmly town on him. Hiro is giving me shit in the other thread which is actually kind of hilarious. What are your thoughts on debears? He's charging me 500 for another paint picture and I don't have that many e-sports dollar sitting around. VE pointed out the 'nuff said' earlier but seemed to let it go rather quickly, and my concern is that he might be choosing to align himself with Mafia who have had no flips to this point. Was he actually satisfied with debears response or was he just trying to figure out who is mafia so he can intentionally avoid lynching them? VE gently touching on it and letting it go (saying something about enough to get a read on him) is simmering in my mind right now. | ||
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On September 06 2013 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 08:58 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 07:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes. Tell me where to look. I'm confused as hell right now. I trust you the most out of anyone this game. Slam just got pulled out from under me. I figured I would look at Risen but you're firmly town on him. Hiro is giving me shit in the other thread which is actually kind of hilarious. What are your thoughts on debears? He's charging me 500 for another paint picture and I don't have that many e-sports dollar sitting around. VE pointed out the 'nuff said' earlier but seemed to let it go rather quickly, and my concern is that he might be choosing to align himself with Mafia who have had no flips to this point. Was he actually satisfied with debears response or was he just trying to figure out who is mafia so he can intentionally avoid lynching them? VE gently touching on it and letting it go (saying something about enough to get a read on him) is simmering in my mind right now. I think debears is scum. Why are you so eager to trust me at this point? You say that kind of oddly. Eager to trust you in the manner that you are so painfully town that I feel comfortable looking at lynch candidates you approve of. We're at half the day gone and only what, a couple of votes are up now? No clear direction and we need it or there's going to be a chance of no lynch. Unless that's something we are even considering? | ||
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On September 06 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: also OO, if you are the pokemondude, claim right now :D I am not the pokemon dude. If I was, I would ask to trade cards and shit [that's probably not a thing, I'm guessing]. | ||
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On September 06 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well at this point i want to lynch debears. Who are your candidates? Have you been listening to Clarity? Your thinking matching up with the last will post, then? I'll take a look at the fuck knows list from clarity, onegu [snb is dead] Onegu's involvement with BM I've been trying to avoid because it's a whole vector of unknowns in that direction. I'm assuming he's got more participation than what we see in the thread based on being in that QT. He's been sharing the goings-on relatively openly, and it appears he's linked up with someone [Stutters] to make his power useful, so that's good. This is kind of, maybe, a little bit, worrisome: his voting seems to be based on reactions that are specific to him -- related to the BM group, as in stuff that we can't see -- and sort of disjointed from the thread since the geript/shiao lynch. On September 03 2013 17:01 Onegu wrote: -snip other stuff- Me and stutters set up we would use our night abilities so that he would end up in between me and you with you on top of him. He has a ability that affects people above him, he didnt say what it was and I didnt ask, I trust stutters is town. At the end of the night our area of the playerlist got flipped upsidedown so what stutters was going to do didnt happen to you. Only people in BM would have know something was going to happen to you. So when it got switched so nothing happened to you I believe there is scum in BM chat and saved his scummate from what was going to happen to you. Gotta look at stutters to see if I agree with his assessment. And yep, I agree. Town and town. Quite possibly their roles are meant to work together and their involvement in BM is intentional to promote that synergy. So that's cool. Gonna make some more coffee and review debears. | ||
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On September 06 2013 10:13 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On September 05 2013 19:22 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today. Explain why if you think he is. @OBVIOUS. it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question... NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle. So I want an answer from the information you had at that time.... ##unvote: Alakslam ##vote: ObviousOne yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too) I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this." I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post... You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town? Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming. Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip. | ||
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On September 05 2013 06:28 Cephiro wrote: To gamble or to not gamble, that is the question. Can you expand upon what this is about now? Gambling can be a dangerous addiction and lead to misery in your life and the lives of those you care about. If you are addicted to gambling, seek help. | ||
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##Vote: debears Also I think he tried something like this shit back in Nomination Mafia and he was scum there. | ||
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On September 06 2013 10:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: ... Can't respond to an ellipsis. What is it? | ||
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On September 06 2013 10:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 10:43 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 10:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: ... Can't respond to an ellipsis. What is it? How can you talk with Cephiro? Oh. Bwahahahaha. Idk maybe he will come back? Totally spaced on that. Guess he was not quite Jenova material. | ||
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On September 06 2013 11:00 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 10:25 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 10:13 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 19:22 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today. Explain why if you think he is. @OBVIOUS. it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question... NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle. So I want an answer from the information you had at that time.... ##unvote: Alakslam ##vote: ObviousOne yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too) I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this." I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post... You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town? Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming. Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip. Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?) Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM? Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read. I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view. Does that help? | ||
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On September 06 2013 11:18 debears wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 10:38 ObviousOne wrote: Voting debears, there's no way he should even be functional if he's not reading the thread without some kind of assistance. ##Vote: debears Also I think he tried something like this shit back in Nomination Mafia and he was scum there. ##Nirvana Stirke: ObviousOne This guys is the scum. Lynching for "functionality" and not scum Thanks, I don't even have to move my vote. | ||
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On September 06 2013 11:21 debears wrote: Btw, I want to point out that "I think he tried this in XXXXX game" is a bullshit excuse for making an actual meta case where I did this. I've already asked clarity to do the same, he refused to go and look also. Bring it on. I know you won't find anything like that in my history OO I'm about as invested in reading your other games to reform my opinion of your play as you are in your one-sentence death sentence. | ||
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On September 06 2013 11:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh you're talking mod-confirmation or something. Why? I thought you were D-D-D-D-D-DUELING? Remember the lessons from LXI If it's not in blue text, it's not mod-confirmed. | ||
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On September 06 2013 11:50 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 11:00 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 06 2013 10:25 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 10:13 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 19:22 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today. Explain why if you think he is. @OBVIOUS. it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question... NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle. So I want an answer from the information you had at that time.... ##unvote: Alakslam ##vote: ObviousOne yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too) I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this." I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post... You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town? Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming. Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip. Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?) Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM? Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read. I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view. Does that help? ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI + BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that." Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos" Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion? I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. 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On September 06 2013 12:12 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 11:52 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 11:50 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 06 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 11:00 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 06 2013 10:25 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 10:13 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 19:22 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 15:35 ObviousOne wrote: I'm not seeing any improvement from Alak beyond appearing somewhat more literate. Explain why if you think he's NOT the right lynch for today. Explain why if you think he is. @OBVIOUS. it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question... NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle. So I want an answer from the information you had at that time.... ##unvote: Alakslam ##vote: ObviousOne yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too) I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this." I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post... You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town? Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming. Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip. Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?) Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM? Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read. I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view. Does that help? ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI + BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that." Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos" Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion? I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. " The confounding bit where he fucked us up royally with his item randomizer? Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion? Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not retarded. | ||
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On September 06 2013 12:30 AxleGreaser wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 12:13 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 12:12 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 06 2013 11:52 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 11:50 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 06 2013 11:07 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 11:00 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 06 2013 10:25 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 10:13 AxleGreaser wrote: On September 05 2013 19:22 AxleGreaser wrote: [quote] Explain why if you think he is. @OBVIOUS. it may not be obvious but I still want an answer to this question... NOTE you made that statement before the watcher kerfuffle. So I want an answer from the information you had at that time.... ##unvote: Alakslam ##vote: ObviousOne yeah i am serious ... yeah even if Alak flips red...(tomorrow) (bussing dead teammates is a thing) yeah even if Alak flips town (jumping up and down on lynch baits a thing too) I still want to know that as you "Tomorrow we're lynching Alakaslam because he's mafia. I coached this guy as town in his newbie games and I didn't tell him to play like this." I'd like you to explain as you know his play so well why you think he is scum and not town. As you coached, I assume you wont be making a because he is bad post... You will be pointing out which bad plays he could not reasonably be expected to have done as town? Sure. I'll just summarize our interactions and the advice I gave him and why I believe he's mafia based on what I've taugh him. 1. Alakaslam wanted to fake claim a role to draw fire in one of his newbie games, because he believed he would be protecting someone who appeared to be claiming a power role. I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos 2. He wanted to point out the "PR slip" he perceived in the thread in that game in the thread (it wasn't but it's the intent that's important here) and was told that he shouldn't make it easier for mafia to spot power roles. This game: counter-point is that he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either. This game: counter-point is he threatened to fuck with town if BH was lynched but did nothing productive to divert it, either. 3. His spammy random style doesn't feel the same as it does in his previous games where I observed him as town. This game: looks and feels MUCH more like spamming for the purpose of spamming. Fact is, I'm amazed he has lived this long and I can't wait to see that I'm right with his flip. Cool you 'taught' him... ( I expect by that you mean you explained it very clearly) BUT did he learn? or did he continue to do stuff like that in other games? "confounding the town" (after you taught him?) Re: 2. You taught him not to point out PR roles... but then don't mention that he did that.... based on your experience coaching him is it surprising to you that "he never pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." before the D1 post did you have an expectation that Alak in this game would be "pointed out anything particularly USEFUL to town either." Does him subsequently not pointing out anything useful to town indicate to you he did not receive a town PM? Re: 3 I am not sure about the feel issue, as that will just be a personal thing. As i went so far out on limb clearly i had a different feel read. I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. 1: Did he learn? I think so, he asked about the kinds of things it was OK to do and I helped him through some of those decisions. I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Can I prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that. 2: He knew well enough to notice things that indicate powers and that means he was relatively observant as town. So what did he notice in this game that you think would make him town? 3: I read two entire games he played in and this one is way off the chart on randomness. I'm seeing it as trying to play scum like he plays town and overcompensating to the max. Subjective and my view. Does that help? ObviousOne: I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking specifically here in this post. Specifically your previous post only shows he is still bad (didnt learn what you told him) not that he is scum. Now you have added that you observed him "I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town." + Show Spoiler [FYI + BTW as amatter of interest that would be how you "prove that he learned? Ha. Tell me how one goes about that." Earlier: "I specifically told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. This game: randomizing items (messing with town plans) This game: an exhaustive number of reaction videos" Above you say: I didn't see him make the mistakes related to what I discussed with him when I watched him as town. Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion? I am rather sure I have seen Alak posting all sorts fluff in games. (I have not checked are you sure he stopped posting that fluff after you "told him that confounding the town is not a pro-town move. " The confounding bit where he fucked us up royally with his item randomizer? Do you have confidence he understood about how much he was messing with town plans by using the randomiser? How do you reach that conclusion? Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not retarded. I refuse to respond to that post.... it presents a false dichotmy wher you argue he is not retarded backing me intoa corner where if I oppose you I am claiming he is. I didnt. I will reword it for you. ObviousOne: Because as shitty as his posting can be, he's not likely to make that large an error. I assert he is. I earlier posted this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19662586 which contained this link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19028339 which is link To Alak doing stuff just as out there... Show nested quote + On September 03 2013 15:19 AxleGreaser wrote: it is a response to Onegu who was scum fake claiming, watcher who saw Alak visited by the (obv) town(nosy neigh). (onegu was a scum tracker who had tracked the towny) Alak sees this and claims tracker... (some one who visits but is not necessarily visted.) and concludes merrily they are now both confirmed town.... its a bit out there... Ok? it might just change your settings for just how likely Alak is to do stuff as town. We're having a massive communication fail because I don't see an actual question here. If I'm understanding this right, you and I are on opposites sides of the fence when it comes to his use of the randomizer or whatever it was called. Is that correct? And that you also disagree that my subjective view on the other points also don't point to him being town. I'm not sure what I'm arguing against here, if anything. | ||
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I will say this much: I'd rather not have to shoot debears given that it's a lynch between him and myself but at this point he's the one I'm most confident to be scum in this thread today. So he will die one way or another. That is why I'm confident in the face of this, VE. He has assured mutual destruction at worst, and his lynch at best and I hope a 1 for 1 trade with scum is going to help us win. | ||
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On September 06 2013 13:47 debears wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 13:42 ObviousOne wrote: Well the town hasn't hit any mafia with KP yet so why stop the nonsense now, right? I'm a public (must announce in thread) day Vig with a 1 day delay and I have not shot anyone because, as you've seen, its typically more likely to hit town than anything. I asked rayn specifically today who he thought was mafia because I trust he is the town Pokemon master opposing a scum Pokemon master and he has been vocal about trying to settle things in the thread to no avail. I will say this much: I'd rather not have to shoot debears given that it's a lynch between him and myself but at this point he's the one I'm most confident to be scum in this thread today. So he will die one way or another. That is why I'm confident in the face of this, VE. He has assured mutual destruction at worst, and his lynch at best and I hope a 1 for 1 trade with scum is going to help us win. crumbs? Who crumbs day vig? You'll know when it happens. Plain as day. | ||
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On September 06 2013 13:53 debears wrote: oh, and that you would try to get me lynched when you can just shoot me since you don't think I'm actually scum (or have any evidence of it) Well, I decided today to vote for you, so today would be a good day to shoot, right? | ||
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On September 06 2013 13:56 Risen wrote: Yup, worst day vig claim I've ever seen. Why not just shoot debears instead of force us to waste a lynch between you two. ##unvote ##vote: ObviousOnce "force us" lol Anyone reading this shit? Lynch him tomorrow. | ||
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On September 06 2013 14:01 debears wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 13:58 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 13:53 debears wrote: oh, and that you would try to get me lynched when you can just shoot me since you don't think I'm actually scum (or have any evidence of it) Well, I decided today to vote for you, so today would be a good day to shoot, right? But why wouldn't you just shoot me and move on to someone else for the lynch? You instead waste time of the thread and yourself if you are town. Like, by your wording, I would be "useless" to the game contribution wise. Every says I've been lurking. I'd be the perfect candidate for a vig shot, since my lynch would reveal no real information as town or scum. Like, makes 00000000000000 to the nth degree sense if you were a town dayvig. I love how you fell into the hype, Hiro was laughing his ass off over in the other game about this situation. Various people calling me scummy over the past three days as well, how is that any better or worse? You just put town between a rock and a hard place with this and I don't see how that's a good idea from town. At least when you vote if you can't garner support there's a chance you can save someone who is town's life. Take a microscope to that fool Hiro when things go back to "normal" ... well, as normal as this game could get. | ||
ObviousOne
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On September 06 2013 14:05 Risen wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 13:59 ObviousOne wrote: On September 06 2013 13:56 Risen wrote: Yup, worst day vig claim I've ever seen. Why not just shoot debears instead of force us to waste a lynch between you two. ##unvote ##vote: ObviousOnce "force us" lol Anyone reading this shit? Lynch him tomorrow. You're a day vig and not shooting the person opposite you in a forced lynch. Pretty clear choice you're facing here. By not shooting him you're draggin this out and forcing us to waste time. You're either incompetent or scum. I think scum. He doesn't die until tomorrow anyway, but here you go. Ask and ye shall receive. ##Kill: debears | ||
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On September 06 2013 14:15 Risen wrote: Wait, wait, wait. Just so I'm straight. debears activates his forced lynch ability > we are forced to choose between him and OO > here we are or OO activates forced lynch ability > we are forced to choose between him and debears No, he's dead. Period. Hudson: That's it man, game over man, game over! What the fuck are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do? | ||
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On September 06 2013 14:22 Risen wrote: OO is the lynch now. The fact that there's a 24 hour delay on his power and no 24 hour or beginning of day restriction on debears power is absurd, but we have to deal with it. If debears lives past 24 hrs OO was lying. If he dies well lets not waste a lynch on a confirmed death. I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. I don't have to be alive for it to go down. It's not "24 hours" it's end-of-day-tomorrow-death. My shit is legit. He's terminally dead. Fin. Kaput. Hasta la fucking vista. Yippie ki yay, motherfucker. | ||
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On September 06 2013 14:31 Felkyr wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 14:22 Risen wrote: OO is the lynch now. The fact that there's a 24 hour delay on his power and no 24 hour or beginning of day restriction on debears power is absurd, but we have to deal with it. If debears lives past 24 hrs OO was lying. If he dies well lets not waste a lynch on a confirmed death. Ok, really need to sleep after this. But a lynch on a townie is worse than a wasted lynch. Are we sure OO really used the power yet (if he has it)? It would be nice if we got a host confirmation or something... like the duel. Donno, it doesn't say anything bout confirmation. I figured it would be pretty obvious given I had to write it in the thread, but if you think I'm bluffing or making shit up then.. well, I don't really feel like looking for anymore gifs. | ||
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On September 06 2013 14:20 Risen wrote: Show nested quote + On September 06 2013 14:16 Felkyr wrote: On September 06 2013 14:09 Risen wrote: On September 06 2013 14:07 Felkyr wrote: On September 06 2013 13:53 debears wrote: oh, and that you would try to get me lynched when you can just shoot me since you don't think I'm actually scum (or have any evidence of it) On September 06 2013 13:56 Risen wrote: Yup, worst day vig claim I've ever seen. Why not just shoot debears instead of force us to waste a lynch between you two. ##unvote ##vote: ObviousOnce Wait, wouldn't it always be better to first try to lynch someone before you shoot him? In the least you get more information. No. He should know the person staring him down is scum and/or incompetent town with a horrible read. Shoot the man and move on. And it's good to blindly shoot town who happened to have a bad read? Everyone in this game should have been shot already then. I thought the shot was instant. If that was the case then a town OO would immediately shoot debears simply to save the town from potentially lynching him (a confirmed townie to himself). This would free up the lynch. I didn't know it was a 24 hour delay. Had I known I would have asked OO to shoot whoever he thought was his strongest scum read. The fact that he immediately sheeped me makes me think he's scum making a desperate play, though. A townie would simply shoot his strongest scum read and be done with it, not sheep with me a person he just asked to be lynched. Jesus christ. I initiated voting for debears today. It's in the vote thread. It's in my filter. | ||
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4. Cephiro - didn't like the early riddles, seemed to reach the same idea as my RE: Vayne=3p, looks more and more town the further down the filter you go. mad town feels from this post. might have wanted to interview him but he's somewhere else today. 11. WaveofShadow - shamefully null on him, and I don't like it. If there's a third 3rd-party in this game I might pin it on him but no use chasing that. 14. coag - ???? who? 16. austinmcc - he's full of questions today, turn the tables and grill him back. I want to see him on the candidates list tomorrow and see where that goes. 17. debears - dying scum 19. Risen - daaaaaaaaazed and confused, I don't know how to choose. I'd say null to mafia but he has a special kind of innocence about him, so town. 22. ShiaoPi - kill with fire, please. please. pretty please. If I had another bullet I would send it here. Look at that filter. Look at it. LOOK. Then kill it with fire. 25. randombum - I just hate his very first post. His recent posting looks pretty good over in the other thread. 29. HiroPro - scum for pushing this bullshit, joke's on you, I want you up tomorrow, too. 26. VisceraEyes Died Night 1, and was resurrected Day 2 - handsome feller [dat beard], never lynch this guy Omitted people I feel are obvtown. Not entirely comprehensive but we can talk about tomorrow's lynch while you decide which of me and debears you want dead today. | ||
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On September 11 2013 12:10 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + I think the main thing that I noticed this game as scum was just a ... distinct lack of town leadership. On September 11 2013 12:06 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah he defs did. Is there any way to read the scum QT in one page? Because fuck clicking that shit 1000 times. Greymist and I were also talking about this last night, but I'm pretty sure we agreed that TL scumteams are strong lately. Or that TL towns in general are just real shit. Maybe both. D1 was wonky because the lynch didn't matter. D2 we had a double lynch and people missing actions and whatnot. The whole time, we were aiming early night kills at people that were vocal/threatening, and once we hit D3 discussion just kind of shut down. Some of that was the scum/3P numbers, I don't think we expected 6 non-scum NKs on N2, but Closed Casket's D3 was empty, and regular game's D3 was empty up until the final bit, and might have stayed a lot emptier if OO didn't choose to shoot debears. D4 same thing, no town leadership despite cephiro trying, and everyone pushing their own targets of choice. People so focused on roles and mechanics that nobody ever really scumhunted and made cases, they just focused in on whatever mechanics or roles they didn't like, and that meant everyone was on different pages and couldn't get a lot of good lynch discussion going. On September 04 2013 15:15 ObviousOne wrote: should try to take some cues from Vayne and get your classic on once in a while. That's what I was referencing. Normal game, I would have been lynched D1, D2 latest for being too quiet. Even Dandel (in obs) said I looked shittier than usual. Get your classic on. Also knew VE was playing for scum when he didn't vote me immediately after Nirvana Strike. <3 u bro | ||
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On September 11 2013 12:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: As scum, we shot the following 3P's: VE (dies, ressurrected) Wave (Clarity was roleblocked, didn't go through) Vayne (Died) Risen (Bell save) Night 1 we literally shot both of the masoned 3P's, lol. I loved being scum with you. It's also why I'm wary of you when I'm town. BUS ALL THE THINGS. | ||
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On September 12 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote: Yeah getting killed early was silly. D: Yeah, my bad on that, VE. | ||
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