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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#1861
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS i think Zentor is saying mafia tried to push Felkyr lynch BEFORE it was sure geript will get lynched.

Nope, not buying it.
Geript claimed unlynchable at 6:50 KST Aug 31 TL time.
The only people voting him at this point were Oats/Cheese/Dandel. Cheese switched his vote 11 min before the claim.
Maybe, MAYBE this argument can make sense for Oats and Dandel since they voted Felkyr much earlier, but do we assume Geript just sprung the idea in thread without mentioning it in scum QT and allowed his scumbuddy Cheese to vote elsewhere first? (Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)

How about the other 4 on Zentor's list? How do they fit in exactly?

I do not buy it either but that's what he is trying to say i guess.
table for two on a tv tray
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 20:46 GMT
#1862
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1863
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)

Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.

^ This.

&

Kill Oatsmaster.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#1864
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.

You sound like me in GoT. Not good.
I had a good night of sleep.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#1865
On September 02 2013 05:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:42 MrZentor wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:24 MrZentor wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:17 MrZentor wrote:
The mafia had more to lose this lynch than normal, so they probably would have taken more risks this time, which would have included voting for the other candidate.

+ Show Spoiler +
assuming geript is scum+ Show Spoiler +
I feel like I have to say this in every post or else one of you will be like OMG ZENuTRS KNOWS GERIPT IS SCUM SO HE SCUM

Wait hold on a sec.
Why would any mafia bother voting for anyone else at all if they knew Geript was going to just change everybody's vote to BH?
What did mafia have to lose at all?


WOOWWWWWWWWWW, does anybody read my posts, at all?

No.
It doesn't make any sense.
That ability is massive and there is no way Geript would just toss that out there after scum had thrown their votes down and fuck his team over.


Assuming geript is mafia, there are two possibilities for the end of the day, because scum are going to use geript's ability if scum is about to get lynched.
1) A townie gets lynched.
2) Geript uses his ability

Let's look at this from scum's perspective.

Beginning of day: Things are going well.

Half way through the day: OH NO! People are voting for geript, we should start voting for another candidate so he doesn't have to use his ability!!!!

Eight hours later: Yay! Felkyr nearly has as many votes for him as geript does!

Four hours later: Agh people are voting for geript!! We had better switch quickly!

End of the day: We should have geript use his ability instead of dying. If we had known from the beginning that geript would have to use his ability regardless of what we did, we wouldn't have tried to save him. But WoS doesn't understand that the mafia can't predict the future

People were voting Geript because HE CLAIMED UNLYNCHABLE AND DREW EVERYONE TO VOTE FOR HIM.


Uh, no. Several people were already voting for geript and VE(you know, that guys everybody sheeps) was pressuring him hard. He was likely to get lynched before he claimed to be unlynchable.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 20:52 GMT
#1866
On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.


From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town.

I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed.

As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point.



Isn't dandel the guy who early day 1 berated someone for not improving their play game to game?

Does anyone recall the last time dandel played scum? If so could you tell me the game please?

On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.

You sound like me in GoT. Not good.


I already explained why he's different in this game compared to GoT.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
September 01 2013 20:55 GMT
#1867
Stop the radical association cases and theories pre flip. Ends here. Lynch scummiest dude d2.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 20:55 GMT
#1868
On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?


Usually, the amount I post first day is directly proportional to the probability of me getting lynched.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 20:56 GMT
#1869
On September 02 2013 05:55 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?


Usually, the amount I post first day is directly proportional to the probability of me getting lynched.


QQ
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 20:57 GMT
#1870
On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?


Kita is there a reason that you don't have thoughts on zentor? I've asked for it twice now.
I mean, it's nice that you noticed he didn't post much d1 but that's not a read.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
September 01 2013 21:05 GMT
#1871
Remember all actions are due in .
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
September 01 2013 21:10 GMT
#1872
On September 02 2013 05:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?


Kita is there a reason that you don't have thoughts on zentor? I've asked for it twice now.
I mean, it's nice that you noticed he didn't post much d1 but that's not a read.


I think you might have missed my comment.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 21:13 GMT
#1873
Oh there's that one line at the end of that post that gives him a null read....
You don't follow his logic but he's not being malicious?

He called seven people extremely suspicious. You don't think that throwing dirt everywhere isn't scum indicative?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 01 2013 21:15 GMT
#1874
On September 02 2013 05:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.


From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town.

I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed.

As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point.



Isn't dandel the guy who early day 1 berated someone for not improving their play game to game?

Does anyone recall the last time dandel played scum? If so could you tell me the game please?

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.

You sound like me in GoT. Not good.


I already explained why he's different in this game compared to GoT.

You haven't explained how me playing different to GoT makes me scum
You are saying "he played differently as town in the past so he's scum now", which is terrible pseudo-usage of meta, because what you should be saying is "he played scum just like this in the past and here's where", but you can't say that because I didn't.

That said, that was not even what koshi was saying.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 01 2013 21:15 GMT
#1875
tl;dr: clarity pls
A backwards poet writes inverse.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 01 2013 21:16 GMT
#1876
i have come to deliver bad news. stop stupid associationstuff. we did not even have a lynch. also if pikachu thingy is townaligned it would be great to tell us about it.
btw dont shoot the messenger, he totes innocent
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 21:17 GMT
#1877
On September 02 2013 06:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
Oh there's that one line at the end of that post that gives him a null read....
You don't follow his logic but he's not being malicious?

He called seven people extremely suspicious. You don't think that throwing dirt everywhere isn't scum indicative?


The irony
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 21:20 GMT
#1878
On September 02 2013 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.


From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town.

I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed.

As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point.



Isn't dandel the guy who early day 1 berated someone for not improving their play game to game?

Does anyone recall the last time dandel played scum? If so could you tell me the game please?

On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.

You sound like me in GoT. Not good.


I already explained why he's different in this game compared to GoT.

You haven't explained how me playing different to GoT makes me scum
You are saying "he played differently as town in the past so he's scum now", which is terrible pseudo-usage of meta, because what you should be saying is "he played scum just like this in the past and here's where", but you can't say that because I didn't.

That said, that was not even what koshi was saying.


You're trolling, but you're reaching terrible conclusions.
In GoT you were trolling but reaching decent conclusions. Like I said I find it hard to read you but you feel WAY more useless this game. Yes, I realize I can't quantify my feelings.
If it was anyone but you I would have already called you 100% scum and ignored you, but I haven't yet. How's that for use of meta?

I feel like I'm swimming heavily against the current though, which is why I asked for your latest scumgame, care to help me out?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 01 2013 21:21 GMT
#1879
On September 02 2013 06:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.


From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town.

I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed.

As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point.



Isn't dandel the guy who early day 1 berated someone for not improving their play game to game?

Does anyone recall the last time dandel played scum? If so could you tell me the game please?

On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)


Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.

You sound like me in GoT. Not good.


I already explained why he's different in this game compared to GoT.

You haven't explained how me playing different to GoT makes me scum
You are saying "he played differently as town in the past so he's scum now", which is terrible pseudo-usage of meta, because what you should be saying is "he played scum just like this in the past and here's where", but you can't say that because I didn't.

That said, that was not even what koshi was saying.


You're trolling, but you're reaching terrible conclusions.
In GoT you were trolling but reaching decent conclusions. Like I said I find it hard to read you but you feel WAY more useless this game. Yes, I realize I can't quantify my feelings.
If it was anyone but you I would have already called you 100% scum and ignored you, but I haven't yet. How's that for use of meta?

I feel like I'm swimming heavily against the current though, which is why I asked for your latest scumgame, care to help me out?

That's quite the coincidence, because if you are town, you are reaching the worst conclusions possible. For bad reasons too.

My games are in my profile.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2013 21:25 GMT
#1880
On September 02 2013 06:16 ShiaoPi wrote:
i have come to deliver bad news. stop stupid associationstuff. we did not even have a lynch. also if pikachu thingy is townaligned it would be great to tell us about it.
btw dont shoot the messenger, he totes innocent

Shiao, what does this mean?
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