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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 19:57 GMT
#1821
On September 02 2013 04:54 debears wrote:
Clarity look at my post on dandel dawg


Your interpretation makes him scum but he could just as easily just be town trolling and making shit up about what he would have done in other situations. There's other stuff about him that's damning though, and you seem cool.
I like zentor > dandel. What do you think?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 19:58 GMT
#1822
*sigh* I guess I should actually respond to this.

The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr"


Yes

Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum.

How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious.


Because felkyr actually had a chance to be lynched instead of geript. Anybody who voted for anybody aside from felkyr and geript was essentially abstaining.

Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla"


I can't be certain about anything in this game, and if I misled you into thinking I thought I was certain, I'm sorry.

This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it?
If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious??


Keep in mind that this is all assuming geript flips scum. Everybody on that list is suspicious in that they voted for somebody who had a good chance of getting lynched and may or may not have been scum as opposed to somebody who was scum.

Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game.
His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game.
Therefore Zentor is scum.


Honestly, if I were scum, I'd be thinking about the game a lot more than if I were town.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2013 19:58 GMT
#1823
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 20:02 GMT
#1824
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo


Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though.
There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel.
Comment on zentor please.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
September 01 2013 20:03 GMT
#1825
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo

Because BH isn't always right...

I'm having trouble making heads or tails of this game. Lack of an actual lynch is really screwing with me =/
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 20:03 GMT
#1826
On September 02 2013 04:47 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:43 MrZentor wrote:
I'm not always clear about my ideas, so I'm scum.

Dat logic.


It's not that you're not clear, it's that you're inconsistent. Big difference.
If you were town and you had a bunch of townreads in that list of 7 you would not call all 7 extremely suspicious.
Anyway, no need to talk to you anymore, time to die scum.


Why wouldn't I? If it's true that geript is mafia, these people voted in a way that helped mafia. Wouldn't you be suspicious of people assisting the mafia?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
September 01 2013 20:04 GMT
#1827
On September 02 2013 04:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:54 debears wrote:
Clarity look at my post on dandel dawg


Your interpretation makes him scum but he could just as easily just be town trolling and making shit up about what he would have done in other situations. There's other stuff about him that's damning though, and you seem cool.
I like zentor > dandel. What do you think?


I'll tell you when I catch back up. Still on page 34. Fun times
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 01 2013 20:04 GMT
#1828
Kill Oatsmaster someone. Tonight.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2013 20:05 GMT
#1829
On September 02 2013 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo


Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though.
There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel.
Comment on zentor please.

Umm....Is Zentor's idea of scum people who tried to 'save' Geript?

Why am I not on his list then?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 20:06 GMT
#1830
On September 02 2013 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo


Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though.
There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel.
Comment on zentor please.

Umm....Is Zentor's idea of scum people who tried to 'save' Geript?

Why am I not on his list then?


Because he did superficial vote analysis without context bro. read my case
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2013 20:07 GMT
#1831
On September 02 2013 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo


Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though.
There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel.
Comment on zentor please.

Umm....Is Zentor's idea of scum people who tried to 'save' Geript?

Why am I not on his list then?

Like...honestly I would expect to draw the most ire from the people who would think I was trying to protect him by 'soft-pushing' him and not actually voting for him.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 01 2013 20:08 GMT
#1832
On September 02 2013 04:57 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:54 debears wrote:
Clarity look at my post on dandel dawg


Your interpretation makes him scum but he could just as easily just be town trolling and making shit up about what he would have done in other situations. There's other stuff about him that's damning though, and you seem cool.
I like zentor > dandel. What do you think?

debears, your "case" on me is so bad not even the baddie that pretends I'm scum wants to agree with it

nuff said.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 01 2013 20:10 GMT
#1833
On September 02 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also notice how he's 100% certain that geript will flip scum if shot like WHAT THE FUCK. If geript flips scum zentor is next.

wtf

of course geript is going to flip scum

it's actually 100%
A backwards poet writes inverse.
mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
September 01 2013 20:10 GMT
#1834
On September 02 2013 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo


Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though.
There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel.
Comment on zentor please.

Umm....Is Zentor's idea of scum people who tried to 'save' Geript?

Why am I not on his list then?

Yeah, that's probably the part that bothers me the most about him. He didn't list people who actually tried to push the vote off of geript, only people who voted for Felkyr. On one hand I can kinda see the reasoning that scum were trying to lynch the only other viable candidate, but it's weird to just list everyone who voted for him and not people who actually tried to switch the lynch.
Never trust a skinny innkeeper
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#1835
On September 02 2013 05:10 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo


Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though.
There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel.
Comment on zentor please.

Umm....Is Zentor's idea of scum people who tried to 'save' Geript?

Why am I not on his list then?

Yeah, that's probably the part that bothers me the most about him. He didn't list people who actually tried to push the vote off of geript, only people who voted for Felkyr. On one hand I can kinda see the reasoning that scum were trying to lynch the only other viable candidate, but it's weird to just list everyone who voted for him and not people who actually tried to switch the lynch.

that's because he clearly didn't read the thread but wanted to look like he's contributing.
obv
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
September 01 2013 20:11 GMT
#1836
On September 02 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also notice how he's 100% certain that geript will flip scum if shot like WHAT THE FUCK. If geript flips scum zentor is next.

wtf

of course geript is going to flip scum

it's actually 100%


Well zentor backtracked and said he doesn't know what he's gonna flip. How do you feel about that?
It's actually not 100% >.<
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 01 2013 20:16 GMT
#1837
On September 02 2013 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 02 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also notice how he's 100% certain that geript will flip scum if shot like WHAT THE FUCK. If geript flips scum zentor is next.

wtf

of course geript is going to flip scum

it's actually 100%


Well zentor backtracked and said he doesn't know what he's gonna flip. How do you feel about that?
It's actually not 100% >.<

no
its genuinely really seriously 100%+ impossible that geript is town
and people should be seeing that by now


but people should also see how scum kita is, but instead i'm treated to people puking into the thread
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#1838
On September 02 2013 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 02 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also notice how he's 100% certain that geript will flip scum if shot like WHAT THE FUCK. If geript flips scum zentor is next.

wtf

of course geript is going to flip scum

it's actually 100%


Well zentor backtracked and said he doesn't know what he's gonna flip. How do you feel about that?
It's actually not 100% >.<

I'm pretty sure at this point it is.
If Geript was town he would have immediately tried to make up for his failure to lynch 'scum BH.'

Zentor's defense does make a certain amount of sense but yeah like Fuba said, if scum were to jump on somebody for suspicious voting activity on D1 I really thought I'd be primary target. Look at Axlegreaser hounding me, for example. Why is 'abstaining' from the vote more acceptable?
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
September 01 2013 20:17 GMT
#1839
The mafia had more to lose this lynch than normal, so they probably would have taken more risks this time, which would have included voting for the other candidate.

+ Show Spoiler +
assuming geript is scum+ Show Spoiler +
I feel like I have to say this in every post or else one of you will be like OMG ZENuTRS KNOWS GERIPT IS SCUM SO HE SCUM
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2013 20:18 GMT
#1840
On September 02 2013 05:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 02 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also notice how he's 100% certain that geript will flip scum if shot like WHAT THE FUCK. If geript flips scum zentor is next.

wtf

of course geript is going to flip scum

it's actually 100%


Well zentor backtracked and said he doesn't know what he's gonna flip. How do you feel about that?
It's actually not 100% >.<

no
its genuinely really seriously 100%+ impossible that geript is town
and people should be seeing that by now


but people should also see how scum kita is, but instead i'm treated to people puking into the thread

Dandel can you build a more recent case on kita? I've been wavering back and forth on him and I'm really not sure where to lean. I'll re-read his filter at some point as well.

Actually, there are so many fucking lynch candidates right now we're going to have trouble as is D2......
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