You've said that to almost everyone accusing you, yet you're the one still alive after countless townie flips. Is he scum because he accuses you, or do you have some other reasoning?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 20:19 GMT

#3802

On September 09 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all me being alive is not a reason for me being scum. The rest of the post makes no sense and i useless speculation. There is not a single reason why i am scum.

If we kill the mafia pokemon dude, i become pretty much confirmed town. There is not a single reason why should i have claimed as scum. There is not a single reason why the other guy would be town. The suggestion that "rayn is playing with the hosts" is absurd and dumb. Mafia can't NK me, because doing that does not kill me until all my pokemons are dead. They need to lynch me. That's why they try to lynch me.

I am not here "doing nothing". Just because i don't make big posts with townreads and shit does not mean i am scum.

If there is a mafia pokemon dude other than yourself, that is. There are perfectly viable reasons why you could've claimed as scum. And I like this addition that you can't be NKed... very convinient, wouldn't you say?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 20:23 GMT

#3804

Ahh.... this is a nice one. Rayn, I'd like to you to answer this: Assuming you speak the truth that you can't be NKed before all your pokemons are dead... how would the scum know about it?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 20:28 GMT

#3810

On September 09 2013 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also do not forget about Austin. I almost did.

On September 09 2013 04:10 Cephiro wrote:
Stutters & austin, would you like to tell us a bit more about what you are trying to achieve?

I really don't like the way you're defending yourself and trying to divert attention. All your defense is based on your role and the existence of this scum pokemon trainer. You haven't tried to point out if you've been useful or not at all, you're concentrating on your counterpart way too much. It's like you don't care about anything but him. Why shouldn't you try to hunt other scum as well, considering that it seems you have no clue about this scum pokemon trainer you claim there is?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 21:33 GMT

#3820

On September 09 2013 06:29 randombum wrote:
Could somebody who wants to lynch me/hear from me actually ask some questions? If you are simply waiting to hear what I have to say in general then just wait a bit more for now.

Are you about to act which is why we need to wait, or are you finishing a bigger write-up and reading through filters still? At the moment I'm personally wanting to hear from you in general, and THEN ask you for questions if I find necessary.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 22:01 GMT

#3827

On September 09 2013 06:40 Stutters695 wrote:
So who all is down for lynching Rayn? I know the other pokemon role and I think they're way more likely town.

Well, random and rayn are my top two lynch targets for a while now, but I'm not getting on this wagon before I hear more. So you're confirming another pokemon role exists?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 22:20 GMT

#3830

I'm not up for lynching Stutters, at least not yet. But if you know someone else to be a pokemon role, I'd like to hear the name. Or that person should come forth if he wants to accuse rayn of being scum. We lynch the other, and if we hit town, we kill/lynch the other one next. If we hit scum first, then most likely the other one is pretty much confirmed town. At the moment I think a 1-for-1 trade is extremely worth it, so I'm expecting the other pokemon person to reveal themself.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 22:45 GMT

#3832

I have not claimed that. But I'll give it looks very good for you if the other person is not going to come forth. To the extent you've described your role it sounds like you don't have anything very powerful you can do. A 1 for 1 trade at this point is really good in my opinion, I don't see how someone could argue against that. Assuming rayn is scum and this other person (if he exists) is town, the claim should be made.

There is also a very small possibility (highly unlikely, but never rule out a sick play in mafia), that stutters/rayn are both scum/3p/a mix of the above, and are playing to get rayn towncred by claiming there is this other pokemon dude that never even comes out. Very unlikely, but possible.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 08 2013 23:53 GMT

#3859

I propose we lynch Stutters unless we get the name of this other pokemon person.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 00:56 GMT

#3872

On September 09 2013 09:47 randombum wrote:
Anyways, since clarity asked, other reads.

Zentor is super scummy looking to me, but he's going to flip anyways so let's leave it at that.

There's something super fishy going on between zentor/hiro/ceph. Ceph has been all buddy buddy with zentor all game except now he wants to day vig him. Like I don't understand why somebody would day kill somebody they have been defending without warning and the person told to actually does it. These three are even fishier because all three of them wanted to vote me in casket for nothing essentially, but when they saw the other four people were not going to do it happening they abandoned ship pretty fast.

I don't think anybody else is really worth mentioning at the moment since they are not likely lynch targets unless stutters' reveal is crazy.

On September 09 2013 01:33 Cephiro wrote:
Why I called it on Zentor: I know he was some sort of rolecop since he called my role very early on. His reactions to me defending him were what ticked me off in his play, but I didn't want to reveal that yet. Considering that he just happily continued doing nothing and providing no results and rode onwards as I protected him, it made me more confident that he may very well be scum. Now it has gone on for long enough. I am suspecting that he may be the 3P in the QT (Stutters mentioned something about someone calling out his role correctly.)

TL;DR: His play since I called him townie ticked me off very quickly, but I didn't want him to find out about my suspicions so I continued defending him so I could pull all this shit off.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 01:16 GMT

#3880

##vote: Stutters695

My list of targets in order:

1. Stutters695
2. randombum
3. raynpelikoneet
4. austinmcc

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 01:20 GMT

#3881

And because someone is going to ask anyway because they haven't read properly:

I want stutters dead unless the name of this claimed-to-be pokemon trainer is revealed.

As CC just mentioned, it is extremely anti-town to not reveal this information.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 01:24 GMT

#3885

On September 09 2013 10:20 cakepie wrote:
sigh. pls read again

Show nested quote +

1. There is either one or two. Either this recently claimed trainer doesn't exist and rayn is scum, or then it exists and rayn is town.

2. Why would they be on the same side? At most I can see 2 x 3P pokemon trainers but that is incredibly unlikely.

3. Because obviously he's not playing vs the hosts, and if I recall right rayn claimed something about it reading in his role PM that there would be another pokemon trainer. This obviously gives us the conclusion that either he speaks bullshit and is scum or then this other trainer exists.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 01:31 GMT

#3887

More votes on Stutters please. Why would he do anything if he's not in risk of dying and was anti-town?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 01:46 GMT

#3891

Depends on VE's actions. If he plays anti-town and we can afford killing him or have no clear scum targets to go for then why not get rid of him? No point in giving him a free pass.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 02:03 GMT

#3893

##unvote
##vote randombum

Placeholder vote until I wake up tomorrow and get a proper read on the situation with the claim of cakepie.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 19:11 GMT

#4220

Aight, back. Long day at work + gotta take care of my apartment and myself as well. I've read myself up-to-date, but the last ~10-15 pages that came while I was away need another read-through before I can analyze them properly. If someone has something small they want a short reply on already, shoot. (I know there are at least some people with questions aimed at me.)

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 19:31 GMT

#4245

Citizens.... shut teh fuck up. Most of you are being stupid. I'm still going through my 2nd read, but I just can't fathom the stupidity going on here.

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 19:43 GMT

#4256

On September 10 2013 04:40 austinmcc wrote:
Ceph...post

How about you read instead. I said I'm still re-reading through the last 10 pages to make sure I miss nothing, yet you guys keep spamming more useless shit here.

I also mentioned if there's something you need/want quickly and shortly replied on, I could do that.

A question:

Is there a green check or something on debears that I haven't heard of, I don't understand why everyone seems to consider him a confirmed townie and ignore him after the nirvana strike earlier?

Cephiro

Finland1934 Posts

September 09 2013 20:07 GMT

#4271

Why would you lynch random if this cell-thing can potentially clear him as town or confirm him as scum? Was there some possible hole in thing which is why we should go for the lynch instead?