Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2 - Page 6

On September 01 2013 07:02 AxleGreaser wrote:



I am not understanding either this or the EBWOP.

TBMK.

Cephiro: is currently voting for Geript.

Thats where i want Cephiros vote:

Id like some other townies to consiolidate onto geript

so that BH Clarity and VE can safely vote swap to me. (remember vote stealers)

I dont want or need any other votes on me.

On September 01 2013 07:04 ShiaoPi wrote:
my reads in a large game on day 1 are like 99% useless anyway, because I suck at reading too many players.
Since geript also says that votes today dont matter I am more or less content with just waiting for the nightpost to see what in the actual fuck will happen.

On September 01 2013 07:06 geript wrote:

By a large majority of the votes not mattering my point was that most of the votes throughout the day are non-alignment indicative. Not worth paying any attention to.

As for Shaio, I'd add him to my would shoot list but I really need to go back and reread the thread. CBA right now bout to go play more SC2

On September 01 2013 07:09 geript wrote:
Which ability?

On September 01 2013 07:10 austinmcc wrote:
##vote: geript

Although on the off chance you're not trying to be sneakypants here, I'd like to remind you that saying I WON'T BE LYNCHED AND IF YOU LYNCH ME I'MA KILL BH should actually be leading you to be townie on BH right now and NOT shoot him. So, if you weren't being sneakypants, you've telegraphed a target and are still getting lynched/are picking up a buncha votes. Leading me to believe that BH isn't a good alternate target, just based on that.


I'd rather you pop kita, ShiaoPi, or VA.

On September 01 2013 07:14 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Clarity:
I have some suspicion on WoS mainly due to the way he entered the thread at the beginning, dont have much in regards of scumreads though. more on the townleaning side which is not helping us right now

On September 01 2013 07:17 ShiaoPi wrote:
You say that, I dont think so <3

But see, thats the reason I dislike giving reads on day 1 in large games they are literally worthless.

On September 01 2013 07:21 ShiaoPi wrote:
I offer nothing to back it up since it is a gutread with little to no evidence. Which (Surprise) is worthless. But sorry to say that is how I work in large games until I am able to get an overview once flips happen. If you dislike it that much go ahead and keep calling me scum, I dont give a fuck.

On September 01 2013 07:22 AxleGreaser wrote:


Is there any reason you want your vote parked somewhere like Shiaopi?

On August 31 2013 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote:

This makes me feel like I picked the right lurker.
Also HAI GUISE I BACK

Things that made me go WTF while I was catching up:
Vayne's roleclaim
Onegu's roleclaim
Alakaslam

That is all.

On September 01 2013 07:15 WaveofShadow wrote:

lol.
Scum trying to stick with what he originally said because it's harder for scum to just switch reads like that.
He professed to have read the thread but if you had read it you'd know that I am unquestionably town atm.

On September 01 2013 07:33 austinmcc wrote:
Personal read on kita is that he plays solid, isn't afraid to mercilessly hound people. He was all over my ass in that PTP game, even as a mafia-aligned 3P. CT mafia memory is fuzzy but I think I remember him being on people there. In...another PTP game he was scum with gonzaw and marvellosity, and during N1 I read his filter and realized he basically played townie early on, then went blank, just coasting on his early posts.

That's how he's played today. Start with some reads/comments, move heavy into the speculation game. Once you pass the initial "real stuff" gate in his filter, I see a lot of Black Mesa speculation, and not much else beyond the one big reads post. That post DOES read like someone doing work, but then he asks for opinions on any of the other individuals, doesn't really get them, his BIG WORK post gets buried, and he's got no issues with that. If he just posted a buncha scum reads and wanted comment, he'd be trying to drum up comment, trying not to have his reads buried, imo. He can be very forceful and can take over a thread, instead he's happy with all the geript jazz going on.

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ShiaoPi entered with a vote on WoS for reasons that weren't given, and I always always hate those votes. Actually, I don't want ShiaoPi killed yet. Hold off on that, he needs to be a lynch option on a later day and not a shot.

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VA starts the day scumhunting. Great. Wonderful. A+. VA then, under what I consider not nearly enough scrutiny, claims a role that is SUPER anti-getting-nightkilled, and I presume that while town has KP, scum has more night KP.

(1) I don't like the timing on his claim. That role is HUGE if you're town and think you have great reads (which is what he's been spamming before). It's ASS if you reveal it.
(2) His post-claim behavior is to continue poking at his reads (townie) into ... nothing. If his claim is truthful, then scum really don't want to have to nightkill him, they want to leave him alive and in thread (assuming his reads are decent/it's not endgame). His play after his claim plays right into that - don't continue pressure, don't build reads, don't force discussion, just claim early and shut down, more or less. I think that if his claim were truthful, his post-claim conduct would be the opposite.

Dislike the claim + think his play doesn't support the claim. Despite actually giving some scumreads and pushing earlier in the day, he then shuts down, even as Felkyr picks up some votes today. Either he's scum or he's trying to pull something by fakeclaiming imo, and last time he did that it helped get me killed. Boo.

On September 01 2013 07:58 Blazinghand wrote:


I'm not getting lynched today.

On September 01 2013 08:00 Blazinghand wrote:


vote... count?

On September 01 2013 08:06 Blazinghand wrote:


If you really are a vigi, and you think shooting me is the best thing to do given your read on me, read Les Mis mafia, the game people are referencing regarding my ability to perform under pressure as town, and take a look at my D1 activity.

On September 01 2013 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:
I think they'll lie though. They won't say "it's because I'm scum and I don't want the plan to succeed" they'll say something else

On September 01 2013 08:30 Blazinghand wrote:


I'm sorry

What I mean to say is, I can't imagine a reason NOT to go along with AG's plan. It seems like he's aware of the risks and has chosen wisely. Geript is getting lynched anyways. His power won't help the people voting him, it seems to be that he gets information about those people. If you think I'm scum, you shoudl be EAGER for me to follow AG's plan, right?

On September 01 2013 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:


Okay, so it's certainly possible, from your perspective, that I'm scum and I think I can stop AG's plan from working, but AG, the guy who knows more about his role than anyone else, who doesn't speculate but KNOWS what's going to happen, seems to be fine with it. He seems to WANT scum voting him. Maybe it's a vigi explosion shot and he's bluffing that it's not. Maybe it's cop checks. Maybe-- who knows? The point is, AG can judge better than us what to do, and he wants me to vote him, even knowing that I'm not playing the towniest game I ever had.

And you have to admit, there's also the possibility (even if you think it's a slim one) that this is exactly what it looks like: I am town and I am following the plan laid to me by someone who claims to have a power.

On September 01 2013 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm not saying you have to think I'm not scum-- I'm just saying, don't oppose AG's plan because you think I'm scum. Instead, explain to him whatever risks you think you percieve that he does not. Don't just say "I don't want the plan to happen" because you can't really stop me from following the plan. You can stop AG from using his power, but you have to explain why you, with your somewhat more limited knowledge of his role than what he has, think it's risky. Then, he'll take that info you've given it and combine it with his private knowledge of what his role does and comes to a decision. If that decision is different than what you'd expect, he probably just knows more about how his role works than the rest of us do, and we have to respect that decision.

On September 01 2013 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:
If AG's claim is fake, it's fake-- but the end result for the day will be the same: Geript is lynched. He's at 20 votes right now, and I'll be standing by right up until the deadline in case people start to swap off of him. If necessary, I will abort the AG plan and vote for Geript, but ONLY if it looks like the lynch won't happen unless I do so.