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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 31 2013 08:53 GMT
#1161
Because I can just see geript being lynched and surviving, then half the scumteam going "ERMAGERD STILL MAFIA LYNCHPROOF" if hes town, or visa versa if mafia. Its a greymist game, towns got some kp somewhere. use it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 31 2013 08:56 GMT
#1162
On August 31 2013 17:52 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 17:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Clarity,

I know he could be that. But why risk it? Just vig the guy its A lot safer. If we lynch him and he survives he COULD STILL be scum. I'm not having that kind of paranoia run through town if he's lynchproof.


Because with a claim like that, if he's scum, that's probably the "good" outcome which means scum must have some protective roles.
Who do you want to lynch, anyway? Risen? Did you see how he played in GoT?


Then by that logic any course of action is a super risk and inconclusive. The chances of this happening are prolly the same as fakeclaiming lynchproof.

No. Id lynch him because useless right now. Unfortunatly a ton of dudes are useless right now.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 08:59 GMT
#1163
I axed you a question brah
Risen looked particularly terrible in Game of Thrones mafia day 1, but he was a bit easier to read down the road.
He's a bad lynch. So who do you wanna lynch, then?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 31 2013 09:02 GMT
#1164
Slam, felkyr, Hiro, SnB perhaps? I dont want to lynch people like BH /VE / WoS who are contributing.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 31 2013 09:05 GMT
#1165
It doesn't seem like you want to get another wagon going anyway.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
August 31 2013 09:09 GMT
#1166
greymist game = town has kp
greymist game also = shit aint reliable

we live in a swirling whirlwind of hilarity, my friends. the only thing we can control is the lynch. let's use it on geript. he's probably fakeclaiming lynchproof hoping to be protected by scummate powers at night. There are lots of good vigi targets, but geript strikes me as a uniquely good lynch target, because he's trying to draw vigi fire. I don't trust it. I don't trust it at all. We should just lynch him and not have to worry about our shots getting blocked or whatever.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
August 31 2013 09:10 GMT
#1167
Like if you think geript is scum, don't say "oh vigis will catch him" because if geript is scum, he's scum who is willing to claim lynchproof just to survive until N1 when vigis shoot him. Why would he do that as scum unless he had some sort of plan/role that still worked ok if he gets shot N1? Use you loaves!
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 31 2013 09:12 GMT
#1168
Next level plays and shit here.

I highly doubt 15 dudes will sheep me, esp if im voting scum. If he survives: what then?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 09:16 GMT
#1169
On August 31 2013 18:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
It doesn't seem like you want to get another wagon going anyway.


I ask you who else you would consider and your conclusion is that I don't want to get another wagon going?

Out of your list.. you believe hiro is not contributing?

Slam seems like a policy lynch. I can't tell if Felkyr is newbie scum or town, I'm not confident in it anyway.
Blazing is contributing? He made a terrible case and just spent a ton of posts talking about his relationship with cora who isn't even in the game anymore.
strongandbig I might be able to get behind...

What I don't understand is his most recent interaction.

On August 31 2013 07:26 strongandbig wrote:
PS i'm not saying geript is town, i'm saying VE is scum for a shitty push on him. don't forget scum can push each other and I still think there are likely multiple scum factions.


I don't understand why he needs to explain this. Why not just push VE more (a terrible target at this time, and his case was pretty poor). Why feel the need to explain that he's not defending geript?
Just seems he's too worried about what he appears to be doing rather than what he's doing. Giant case and immediately saying he's leaving his options open and isn't defending someone... rather than say, asking someone what they think of their case or trying to persuade people.

On August 31 2013 08:40 strongandbig wrote:
i still can't decide what to do with geript. randombum i choose you! Why does his claim mean I should vote for him.

Then again, I like this post. randombum just kinda threw his vote on geript and hasn't done much else
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 31 2013 09:20 GMT
#1170
You clearly haven't read Hiro's filter. Its mostly troll with a post for scum BH. You cant say hes contributing more than BH. Whatever.tired of phoneposting at 5:00 AM I sleep
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
August 31 2013 09:26 GMT
#1171
Hiro hasn't written a noteworthy post yet this game
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 09:28 GMT
#1172
On August 31 2013 18:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
You clearly haven't read Hiro's filter. Its mostly troll with a post for scum BH. You cant say hes contributing more than BH. Whatever.tired of phoneposting at 5:00 AM I sleep


I mean. Blazinghand has more posts than Hiro.
That's not how I measure contribution though.

Blazing did the whole Cephiro thing but I read him as town, although his defense was kinda lame.
In terms of volume though, blazing's filter is like 75% corazon.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
August 31 2013 09:29 GMT
#1173
Okeydoke I think I'm more or less caught up with the thread now. It's been somewhat overwhelming given a) this is my first large setup b) I've been away for several months and there's some fucking wierd new meta going on that I can't wrap my head around c) fucking migraine put me out of commission yesterday so didn't start until after dinner today. And it's taken a while to plow through everything

--------

First I'd like to chip in on Vayne's roleclaim (a slightly stale subject, I know)

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 31 2013 02:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On august 31 2013 01:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vayne if your role is not useful any more i guess you can just claim it so we can deduce if you are telling the truth or not.


If I ever get nightkilled, +2 fate is added to the game and I can kill 2 people after 2 more nights have passed.

Obviously not going to get nightkilled at this rate but as you see I needed to die early so I needed to be a threat.

enjoy, im basically a VT now thanks to scum or shitty townies

My gut feeling is that he did indeed botch his early play, so looks to be a genuine rageclaim to me (but not necessarily alignment indicative)

-----------

Also

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 31 2013 13:05 alakaslam wrote:
Here is what I know so far.

Blazinghand, Marvellosity, Cheesecake, Cakepie, other such vets:

I am affected by a bais shown in the image below. Correct or incorrect, it is how I see this.

[image loading]

Now, I am thus unable to read into these individuals day 1. However I will try.

Photo is slightly misleading: All vets are null reads. The scum are in the pink. I honestly don't know yet, if I ever will.



This guy is a buffoon. (But you all know that already, right?) Trolling or not, he is failing bloody hard. I'm a vet? Hah! And Marv isn't even in this game. Like srsly wtf. S

Besides, "herp derp I have no idea how to read these guys, I don't think I'll be able to figure it out" and a pointless diagram make for a big-looking, contentless post. Not unlike many of his posts, really. IDGAF what he's trying to breadcrumb or hint in his wall of spam -- if you're town, fucking COMMUNICATe rather than try to be obtuse.

If he's town, he's completely useless and will be a liability at LYLO. If he's scum, we should lynch him anyway. Either way, I want him out of the game sooner rather than later.

##Vote: Alakaslam

Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 09:35 GMT
#1174
If he's town, he's completely useless and will be a liability at LYLO. If he's scum, we should lynch him anyway. Either way, I want him out of the game sooner rather than later.


Sounds like the definition of a vig shot?
Do you think you can get 16 votes for what basically amounts to a policy lynch?

Why come into the thread like this?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 09:36 GMT
#1175
Like, do you think he has a good chance of flipping red or do you just not want him in the game?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 31 2013 09:36 GMT
#1176
Okay Im still browsing cus insomnia. I would just like to say, nice name cakepie, we bros
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 09:42 GMT
#1177
it's not insomnia if you're staring at a phone/computer screen. It's just your eyes, therefore your brain, thinking there is a sun out.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
August 31 2013 09:50 GMT
#1178
step 1

make first contribution only a few hours before D1 deadline

"contribution" is a policy lynch suggestion with no chance of success

step 2

there is no step 2
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 31 2013 10:13 GMT
#1179
step 1.5 fuck off after your opening post and don't return
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
August 31 2013 10:13 GMT
#1180
On August 31 2013 18:35 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
If he's town, he's completely useless and will be a liability at LYLO. If he's scum, we should lynch him anyway. Either way, I want him out of the game sooner rather than later.


Sounds like the definition of a vig shot?
Do you think you can get 16 votes for what basically amounts to a policy lynch?

Why come into the thread like this?


@Cakepie.
Q to Cakepie.

Given two people (Alak + 1 other) how would you decide which is best to lynch and which is best to vig shoot.

Why for you is alak the one to lynch?

If he is a buffoon... how good would you think his scum game is...?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
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