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austinmcc
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On September 08 2013 04:34 Cephiro wrote: Can someone update me on this cell thing and whether it relates to any alignment or not as for some reason I do not recall anything of this. ![[image loading]](http://www.secrettoeverybody.com/images/secret.png) | ||
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On September 08 2013 05:24 Stutters695 wrote: Okeedoke.with regards to that, let me reread your target Austin. I'll let you know soon. | ||
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 I propose we talk a little about yesterday in the other world. Looking through some filters now. CEPHIRO, How do you feel about Zentor? His D1/D2 filter is a whole lot of geript being scum, people connected to geript/felkyr voting being scum or not, and then not much else. Scummy on oats, towny on slam, more or less absent over D3. You have something going on right now, but do you have particular reason to believe MrZ is kosher? Reading his filter, the thing that really pops is a half-discussion you guys had and then some comments from him about how you know he's town. I...I dunno, assuming that based on all this talk your alignment may be clear tomorrow, and you hopped to slam late, so, without revealing anything secret, you actually comfortable with MrZ? WoS I keep typing some stuff out, but mainly...post more kk? | ||
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On September 08 2013 05:58 Stutters695 wrote: Part of it is yesterday. I see posts that make sense, but don't really go anywhere, and the aim of them does not read as moving the game forward, to me.Austin: Why do you want to shoot who you suggested? obviously don't give specifics that would identify him, but what do you get out of it? I also did a quick check over last night's kills, saw that name pop up in a couple filters but without any followup and generally not as a major major target. It was interesting to see something that just floats around like that and never really really takes off, but is always on the back burner. | ||
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GO GETCHER OWN SCUMHUNTING. | ||
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Because I've got limitations and need to get in touch with and chat with my peeps to make sure things happen like I want slash what? WoS, What stood out to me, at least from yesterday's filter, was that you started the day with reads on people that were somewhat key players during the day - rayn was scummy, Cheesecake was townie. Slam was in your scumreads, OO was tacked on after asked about it, and those are points where yesterday turned. After the early reads and reasoning though, poof. debears/OO nothing. Onegu seeing Cheesecake on kita and Cheesecake claiming visit but not kill nothing. I'm a little stuck on that. Not just a buncha 3Ps. A buncha 3Ps that have flipped or claimed to be basically neutral. | ||
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On September 08 2013 05:47 austinmcc wrote: I propose we talk about something other than my role | ||
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To the people in my cell, I have set things up so there should not be a shot. Do not be alarmed by that. Stutters, if your target is shot and I am dead, then ... look at my list. The guy who is SEVEN slots beneath your target is very likely mafia. You will know why based on my flip. To the other guy, if your target dies, something is screwy, because stutters is almost almost almost certainly town. | ||
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I lead a sleeper cell. I add a person each night, up to 3. Ta da, stutters, cakepie if you guys couldn't guess from his fixation on what I wrote to stutters, and randombum last night. Here's how the cell works. Each of my cell members votes each night on a target. If the voting is UNANIMOUS, my cell shoots that target. If the voting is not unanimous, we twiddle our thumbs. That's why weird lists in the thread, I need to be able to give codewords and then figure out targets later, and I needed you guys to have phrases you could use if you didn't want to shoot my target, because the unanimity is friggin' important. Why? Because, it's not like the sleeper cells in the sleeper cell games. I don't have any control over the KP, don't get to choose someone you send in, I just get to try and get everyone on one page. And here's the twist. If I add a mafia player to the cell, that player does not get a vote. N1 I added stutters. N2 I had him shoot alakaslam and added cakepie. UNLESS anyone else can claim the shot on alakaslam, stutters is 100% town. If he were mafia, my cell would not have shot. And it can't be a stutters/alakaslam mafia team because there was actual host confirmation that alakaslam was shot. On N3, I had stutters and cakepie on different targets. If cakepie were mafia, stutters would have shot randombum last night (stutters as town has a vote, mafia cakepie would NOT and so it would be unanimous to stutters's target, randombum). Cakepie, you can rest a little easier and get off stutters back. Cakepie, I know what you're worried about, but stutters is cleared unless someone claims slam shot. I needed to compartmentalize information so you guys didn't know you were shooting different targets, and I didn't want it known that I'm a half-ass DT because of how the shooting works. I basically get kills OR checks. Stutters, I know you said you're easy to read, but I usually end up calling you mafia in our games and I'm paranoid that you'll roll scum and just lay low. So I added you to the cell as a way of seeing your alignment, and also figured since we've played a couple games you could trust me if you agreed with my targets. Cakepie, you actually got active on D3, but when I added you N2 I didn't really have a feel for you, so added you as a check again. N3 I added randombum. randombum was the person I was talking to stutters about last night, adding little things but never following them, getting suspicion but always hovering outside the lynch. I am fine lynching randombum today, but it's inefficient. Stutters and cakepie, you guys shoot randombum tonight. randombum, if you're town, shoot anyone other than yourself. Ta da! If randombum is mafia, his vote doesn't count, stutters/cakepie are unanimous, and randombum gets shot. I don't actively do anything, so I can't be roleblocked. OO flipped blocker, and I doubt that scum can block BOTH stutters and cakepie from voting, and if either gets a vote in and randombum is mafia, whoosh. If bum doesn't get shot, votes weren't unanimous, and he's town. Got like two more sizeable posts coming off what I've noticed today. Pressure stutters all you want, but unless anyone can claim the shot on alakaslam, he's town. | ||
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Cephiro is up to some boolsheet Everyone is so concerned about claims, pokemans, 3Ps, that they're not looking back over Cephiro. Here is Cephiro's filter on Zentor - + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2013 10:06 Cephiro wrote: Zentor is town for reasons.Well, aside from two townies dying, some other things went pretty nicely tonight. Btw, don't lynch Zentor today. I have my reasons to believe he is town. On September 04 2013 10:07 Cephiro wrote: You really need to sheep less and do more though >_> You should be capable of that when D3 starts if you survive till that, right? Zentor and Cephiro are buddies. On September 05 2013 10:12 Cephiro wrote: Zentor, can you please tell me about your power usage last night? It's really important. If I can trust you, I have a very important mission for you to perform on D4 and N4 but it's absolutely vital you do exactly as I say.. On September 08 2013 05:54 Cephiro wrote: I am comfortable with him, yes. The daypost will clear out a lot of things. It is very possible I'm dead by the daypost. That however won't prevent me from telling what I did for what reasons and what is left to finish. The thing is, I'm giving it all I got tonight and involves others much more than myself, so there's not really anything I expect scum to be able to do about it. Cephiro is comfortable with Zentor and the daypost will clear things up. Zentor on Cephiro - + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2013 10:11 MrZentor wrote: It didn't have anything to do with Isaac, did it? On September 02 2013 11:33 MrZentor wrote: I don't really think I need your help, Cephiro has already helped me a lot... On September 04 2013 10:02 MrZentor wrote: Don't shoot me. Cephiro knows I'm townie.  Daypost comes. No explanation. Cephiro claims to be a vig AND have set some giant plan in motion. And as best I can tell, HiroPro had this, whether via Cephiro or no: On September 05 2013 09:17 GreYMisT wrote: An Aperture Science Crusher was invented So, here's where I'm at. Cephiro has been townie on Zentor all game for unknown reasons. They been buddy buddy. At the start of D4: On September 08 2013 09:29 Cephiro wrote: Zentor, you know what to do with that item. HiroPro, use yours well. He gives ZENTOR and HIROPRO items. This is important.
For realsies. Here are some statements from Cephiro on why he's on Zentor today+ Show Spoiler + On September 09 2013 01:33 Cephiro wrote: Here goes. What will happen: Zentor flips at nightpost (at the same time as lynch.) Why I called it on Zentor: I know he was some sort of rolecop since he called my role very early on. His reactions to me defending him were what ticked me off in his play, but I didn't want to reveal that yet. Considering that he just happily continued doing nothing and providing no results and rode onwards as I protected him, it made me more confident that he may very well be scum. Now it has gone on for long enough. I am suspecting that he may be the 3P in the QT (Stutters mentioned something about someone calling out his role correctly.) If he's town, then my bad for picking a bad target. However, I think most of you aren't very disappointed with my choice. We'll see what he flips. Until then, Zentor, you could go ahead and provide us with anything you can if you are actually town. Hiro, since you are the one killing Zentor you will gain his item. I want you to use it the following night. On September 09 2013 03:31 Cephiro wrote: Rayn could be of any alignment. I have seen no actions from him so far that would confirm him to one way or another. @Zentor: To ensure the kill. You've done close to nothing for town this game. If I had started asking you before, you could have come up with all kinds of schenanigans to try and explain yourself, in the worst case effectively wasting most of the time we've got available to decide on a lynch. This way we'll see what you flip and can concentrate on someone else that seems scummy for the lynch. Your reactions to my actions are saying quite a bit though. You're not telling us anything. If I was going to die in 24 hours with no way of communicating after, I'd share every single piece of information I'd have. You've done nothing of the kind, and you're just questioning my action. Questioning my actions won't change what happened, and it's pointless to go on about it. If you're town, tell us what you've got, and if you're scum you can just leave instead of wasting our time. On September 09 2013 03:40 Cephiro wrote: In before I shot Coag for towncred. Obviously I'd admit I killed Oats if I was scum? If Zentor isn't going to put any effort in reading others or explaining what he has been doing the whole game (actions/role?), I'll just confirm that as a scum-kill and ignore him. I'm disappointed randombum hasn't come and defended himself at all yet. Cephiro claims he had to wait and see on Zentor, didn't like Zentor's responses. But Cephiro also claims to have given HiroPro the Crusher, as best I can tell. That means Cephiro had the crusher. But instead of actually killing a scumread, if Zentor was really scummy to him, Cephiro gives the item to someone else and has THEM use it. So, there it is. Cephiro is up to some boolsheet.
I really would like some answers as to what exactly is going on here, because something is going on in that little triangle, and all three of them were in the Closed Casket world yesterday. I believe he made the shots he claims, but I don't see a claimed N1 shot, I don't see some magical plan here, and On September 08 2013 05:47 Risen wrote: This stuck in my head. I was organizing in the thread because i HAD to, in order to get anything I could trust. Cephiro is asking questions, has some giant plan, hai gaiz I'm hard at work winning the game, but didn't get killed, didn't claim a roleblock, apparently just got entirely left alone despite threatening some massive plan involving half the game. Risen claimed 3P, apparently got shot. Cephiro claimed giant town-favored plan, nothing.So I'm supposed to believe that a town Cephiro is organizing things in public during the night and not expecting to get straight merc'd during the night? For real? Same goes with austin. Jokes. Has anyone else noticed this? Can someone explain what is going on? | ||
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On September 10 2013 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think there's a good shot of him flipping scum.We are not lynching a dude who has un-cc'dly claimed shooting Coag. I am not even thinking about it Austin. Tell me why do you have to shoot exactly randombum? What's the logic? However, everything that happened towards the middle/end of closed casket world is on my mind. Something went really wrong with whatever was going on over there, because (given no townie claim) someone created a second thread, put people in a world WITH NO FLIPS, and then they no-lynched. I like the no-lynch given the lack of discussion/planning over there, but I don't like the lead up to it, the lack of discussion itself and the general MEH attitude towards a lynch. I'm worried that bum was set up as a mislynch and something went wrong. That's why I'd like to shoot randombum, because IF he's town, he won't get shot. If he's town, his vote counts, he'll vote NOT himself, and because the vote isn't unanimous then he'll live. I can't do that with anyone else, because anyone stutters and cakepie targets will get shot, randombum is the exception because he's also in the sleeper cell, so his vote would count if he's town. | ||
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On September 10 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would rather lynch EITHER other point of that triangle than Cephiro atm, but I want to know wtf is going on because I don't want to lynch Zentor if he's actually actually dying, and if there IS some magical town plan I don't want to screw it over. If the explanation is nonsensical, then I'm up for lynching Cephiro.But randombum looks the worst atm. I am almost certain he is scum. Why would you not want to lynch the scummiest guy in thread over a guy who shot mafia? How does that suggestion make any sense? | ||
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Looking over WoS. | ||
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If we trust he's done nothing, then I dunno what we get out of a claim. | ||
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If my group is unanimous, the shot goes off. If it's not, the shot doesn't go off. I get fake-DT powers on people IN my cell, not magical DT bullets. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + If we lynch randombum, cakepie/stutters can shoot WoS but either they both vote and it 100% shoots or they don't both vote and it 0% shoots, it's entirely dependent upon THEM and not upon WoS's alignment. If we don't lynch randombum, cakepie/stutters can shoot WoS. If randombum is town and votes WoS, it shoots. If randombum is scum his vote doesn't matter, it shoots WoS. If randombum is town AND FOR SOME REASON votes not WoS, it doesn't shoot. In any of those scenarios, randombum's alignment and vote matter, WoS's alignment does not. The reason I can fakecheck randombum is because he's in the cell itself, and the cell members are what determine shots firing or not. If cakepie/stutters vote him and he votes anyone else, then (1) if he's scum, his vote doesn't count, the votes are randombum - 2, anyone else - 0, and he gets shot; but (2) if he's town, his vote counts, and the votes are randombum - 2, someone else - 1, and it's not unanimous and he doesn't get shot WoS...do you know anything about VE we don't? | ||
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I don't propose we lynch Cephiro. I propose we figure out what the eff is going on with Cephiro/Hiro/Zentor. My alternate lynch right now looks like WoS or Hiro, but Hiro is connected to Cephiro and if there's some explanation that makes sense and paints Hiro townie, we don't lynch him. | ||
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