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okay then this happened wtf
On August 31 2013 06:50 geript wrote:
VE. I'm very disappoint in you. Don't you know I'm unlynchable. Well here let me tell you. I'm unlynchable. Go ahead and try, but you're not much more than kuso little fish. You'll see when I damn well please.
IF GERIPT FLIPS SCUM IT DOESNT MEAN VE'S PUSH ON HIM WAS GOOD
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On August 31 2013 07:27 Clarity_nl wrote:
strongandbig what do you make of geripts lynchproof claim?
yeah that's kind of throwing me for a loop
i have to think about if we should lynch him just for that
cause what does it tell us if it fails? not much, he could be anything from unlynchable townie to one-shot lynchproof scum. but if it succeeds, it just tells us grushgeript isn't really playing, as usual.
but otoh how can you let someone claim that and just ignore it?
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On August 31 2013 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 07:25 strongandbig wrote:HEY VE! I went through your filter and looked at every post where you mention geript.On August 30 2013 09:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 30 2013 09:22 geript wrote:
Slam is scum. Like 1000%. Y U NO VOTE GERIPT? ##Vote: geript1000% is a pretty high percentage to not be accompanied by a vote - or at the very least some sort of supporting reasoning. bad five more of the same: + Show Spoiler +On August 30 2013 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 09:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 30 2013 09:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well it's good to see that I was eagerly awaiting a fucking SNOOZEFEST. HI VE U MAF? NOT THIS TIME BRO VOTE GERIPT THO! On August 30 2013 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh shit Wave hur.
Wave vote geript cause he scum. On August 30 2013 10:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2013 10:57 MrZentor wrote:
Is everybody okay with me deciding who we lynch today? I'm totally okay with you deciding who you want to lynch today. More than okay, actually. For my part, I'll be deciding who I want to lynch, thanks though. Right now it's geript. On August 30 2013 13:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want everyone who isn't voting for geript to explain very clearly why they're not voting for geript, Thank you in advance. On August 30 2013 14:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ala I'll be interested in your thoughts on who is scum whenever you have them. I really think you should reconsider not voting for geript though. He's like totes magotes scum. ' bad oh wait this might be real On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
[snip]
I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter. well, you don't actually provide reasons. your 1000% thing was obviously stupid and i see no actual comments on anything else geript has done. no idea why what geript is doing this game is different than the shitty shit he does every game. + Show Spoiler [talking with clarity] +On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game. On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game.
Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting? these posts are basically irrelevant, clarity's defense was dumb and ve's responses to it don't matter either. no reason geript's opening whatever would or should have been especially notable, it was someone who says dumb things saying a dumb thing at the start of the game. + Show Spoiler [more bads] +On August 31 2013 04:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 03:15 geript wrote:On August 31 2013 03:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On August 31 2013 03:07 geript wrote:
BH. You are so like 24 hours ago. Lynch slam. As arousing as the thought of lynching a readless, unreadable troll is, can you give me your opinion on others in the thread. Namely active people. Sure: I'd shoot BH, VE and WoS. I'd nuke Oats because he's both scummy and fun to nuke. But meh, I was done for today like idk 12 hours ago so DGAF activated. He says this as if any fucks were given up to this point. LMAO Still reading :d On August 31 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER. On August 31 2013 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 31 2013 05:38 Felkyr wrote:
VE (or someone else), could you summerise your case on geript for me? He is talking shit, true, but does that make him scum? The fact that he's asking for a gun actually feels townie to me, or 3p. Would scum have the guts to do that?
Also, you made that BM remark earlier (not knowing if they had a win conditions), when it was being said that they were a scum faction. Now, it seems you were on the right track. Why that does not really condemn you, it makes me think you might be BM yourself.
On that note, onegu and stutter, could you clarify what was being said in the BM quicktopic?
I've followed the Persona game a bit. And what stands out to me is that Koshi was very active there as townie. While now he doesn't seem to do a lot, except talk about his item.
Geript just doesn't feel townie to me when he normally is very obviously town to me. He isn't doing anything that makes me feel like he's trying to discern anyone's alignment, clarify peoples positions, anything. He's one of a few people that I have found I can count on to do that sort of thing (at least until they give up due to apathy of a lurky town) when they're town. And he's not doing that shit this game. So it's mostly meta. I could go through his posts and show you why I think they're scum motivated I suppose, but that's all conjecture and subjective. What I can say about it as a whole however is that it doesn't feel like he's trying to figure out the game or get more information or anything. He looks like he's just trying to appear active and not get lynched. Look at the way he defends himself against me. He's not even trying - he's just going "lol" every time. Why? If he was town and suspicious of me he'd be furious about my continued push on him and be calling for my head. He's doing nothing. [snip] Okay lets look at your history with geript. The most recent game you and geript were both in was boardwalk empire. you were scum. doesn't count. Then there's hydra mafia where you were hydras. doesn't count. Prior to that was the game and TL LX. In the game, you and geript were both town. you never mention a read on him. but you do talk about him a few times, so it's possible that you got a town read through his obviousness. Then there's LX where before you die: On March 01 2013 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't write a will post guys. I'm too busy at work.
Don't lynch Toad TOMORROW. Make him contribute and tell you if he's scum in earnest, don't just sheep me/DocH/BC on our suspicions this cycle. If it's a bus, then it was orchestrated and that means there was a purpose to it. That purpose may be to implicate those immediately responsible for it (me/Toad) or those who perpetuated it (MS/DocH/WF). We just can't be sure without more info, so don't act on that premise yet.
Instead lynch someone who's more obviously scummy. I suggest
Hassybaby, grepit, ObviousOne, Chezinu. Geript gets mislynched. So you've played with geript in two games, both six or more months ago. One time you misread him and probably contributed to his mislynch. The other time you never mention what your read on him was. + Show Spoiler [more nothings] +On August 31 2013 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hi. I did not read the past 7 pages but BH is mafia.
##Vote: Blazinghand You should, there's some good stuff in there. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but prefer to lynch geript as it's kinda been my hobby this game and I'd really like him to die. Plz? On August 31 2013 06:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
No you're throwing in your lot with the likes of geript. If he flips scum you're next, and I don't like that it has to be like that. On August 31 2013 06:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
"the likes" as in "players playing like they're obviously scummy scum"
I don't like it because I like playing with you when we're on the same team and if we're on the same team, it will be sad to lynch you next if/when geript flips scum. On August 31 2013 06:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2013 06:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Oh so you just think I'm scum, and you'd rather I wasn't scum. That makes sense. That being said, nobody's lynching me for at least the first few days of this game. I'm far too valuable! You got it. While we're engaged here, talk to me about things about other people you've noticed. I'm obviously not going to sway you on geript *wink wink* and a large part of your problem with Cephiro IS his issue with geript so that's not doing much swaying me in that regard, so what else is there? What of this WaveOfShadow talk that's going on? I'm starting to have doubts on my initial read but not enough to want to lynch him. It's mostly the lack of content when he's around. Which I'll admit, he's around a fair enough amount to clear MOST players - but Wave pretty good imo and I'm starting to have doubts. What do you think? This is all fairly pointless. You don't like HOW I've pushed geript - but what are you going to do about it? You're not calling me scum, and you're not voting for me and you're not defending geript and you're not agreeing with me about geript. It says nothing about anything other than "Phooey VE! Phooey!" Phooey right back my friend.
fine bro
##vote: VE
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On August 31 2013 07:55 HiroPro wrote:Clarity and strong. I haven't found the others yet, but I will!
what?
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i still can't decide what to do with geript. randombum i choose you! Why does his claim mean I should vote for him.
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why can't he be one-shot lynchproof scum
they have existed before
probably more frequently than multishot lynchproof town
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On August 31 2013 19:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh I see what the brown thing is.
well, what it was.
the house that has been built need not stay the same.
clarity, are you town?
snb, are you town?
These are ez yes/no questions.
Surely you will not have trouble answering them.
i win with town. winning with town is my only win condition. i am a member of no other alignment than town. this is literally true
i am town. this is metaphorically true but my rolename is not "town" so it is not literally true.
On August 31 2013 23:10 yamato77 wrote:
What about lynching Rayn?
1) It's hilarious.
2) He's been less than useless.
3) He'll bitch for all eternity.
4) I've never seen him play town and give so little of a damn about a game.
Yeah, I like this idea.
nope
rayn's filter is way more game-related and way less fight-picky than when he was scum in got
either he's suddenly gotten much better at playing scum or he's a different alignment, either way we're not lynching him today.
OKAY SO GERIPT
possibilities:
1 he's town and some-shot lynchproof
2 he's scum or third party and some-shot lynchproof
3 he's town and lying
4 he's scum or third party and lying
i'm going to ignore 3 for now because fuck him then.
I don't think 1 is likely. if he was really town then the only reason to try to get lynched like he has been would be if he gains some kind of power. there is literally no reason not to tell us that, but instead he just sits around and trolls the thread.
so he's scum. which is more likely, 2 or 4.
i think 2 is more likely. geript claimed unlynchable on page 49. when he claimed it he was at 3 votes, only one of which had even come in the previous 20 hours. this was not a desparate move by a scum or a 3p trying to reverse-psychology us into not lynching them. there's no way that was anything other than someone trying to get lynched.
why give scum what they want. we don't know why they want it but i think it's more likely that geript wants to be lynched than that he doesn't. and i don't want to give him what he wants.
who do I want to kill? Well, VE. I still think his geript case was suspicious as fuck. The fact that I now believe geript is scum doesn't mean I don't think VE is also scum. Remember, geript wants to get lynched! VE could easily be his scum buddy. Also, remember the possibility of multiple scum factions. regardless of whether or not the black mesa pm circle thing is one of them. last aperture game there was a mixed-alignment pm circle and also two scum factions.
I challenge everyone to read what I wrote about VE's case on geript up until geript claimed lynchproof. tell me how VE could have been pushing that case from a townie mindset. Hell, when VE answered me he didn't even respond to my takedown of his case at all, he just attacked me for "not drawing strong enough conclusions from it."
I guess since it's less than twelve hours from lynch I should be talking about consolidation as well. Currently I would also lynch Kita. Not so sure about BH anymore. Don't want to kill wos anymore either.
I could get down with lynching felkyr but the case on him is kind of a coinflip between scum or noob imo. still better odds of hitting scum than a policy lynch on zentor or alakaslam (both of whom are reasonable policy lynch targets).
I'm leaving my vote on VE for now, there's still 6+ hours until the lynch.
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hiro you're experienced enough to know if you really want to get bh lynched you're going to have to be more persuasive than that and you're going to have to analyze more of his output than just his vote switch to geript. at this point all you're doing is building up meaningless thread presence.
why dont you want to kill VE? talk to me about it.
alternatively: how strongly do you feel about not giving geript the lynch he so fervently desires? would you switch to felkyr or mrzentor if need be to avoid it?
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On September 01 2013 02:41 HiroPro wrote:It's not possible to kill VE today strong. They aren't reading his posts 
but maybe they will! I already wrote a big takedown of his day1, all they have to do is read it there's still hope!
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On September 01 2013 03:24 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 02:40 strongandbig wrote:On August 31 2013 19:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh I see what the brown thing is.
well, what it was.
the house that has been built need not stay the same.
clarity, are you town?
snb, are you town?
These are ez yes/no questions.
Surely you will not have trouble answering them. i win with town. winning with town is my only win condition. i am a member of no other alignment than town. this is literally true i am town. this is metaphorically true but my rolename is not "town" so it is not literally true. On August 31 2013 23:10 yamato77 wrote:
What about lynching Rayn?
1) It's hilarious.
2) He's been less than useless.
3) He'll bitch for all eternity.
4) I've never seen him play town and give so little of a damn about a game.
Yeah, I like this idea. nope rayn's filter is way more game-related and way less fight-picky than when he was scum in got either he's suddenly gotten much better at playing scum or he's a different alignment, either way we're not lynching him today.
OKAY SO GERIPT possibilities: 1 he's town and some-shot lynchproof 2 he's scum or third party and some-shot lynchproof 3 he's town and lying 4 he's scum or third party and lying i'm going to ignore 3 for now because fuck him then. I don't think 1 is likely. if he was really town then the only reason to try to get lynched like he has been would be if he gains some kind of power. there is literally no reason not to tell us that, but instead he just sits around and trolls the thread. so he's scum. which is more likely, 2 or 4. i think 2 is more likely. geript claimed unlynchable on page 49. when he claimed it he was at 3 votes, only one of which had even come in the previous 20 hours. this was not a desparate move by a scum or a 3p trying to reverse-psychology us into not lynching them. there's no way that was anything other than someone trying to get lynched. why give scum what they want. we don't know why they want it but i think it's more likely that geript wants to be lynched than that he doesn't. and i don't want to give him what he wants.
who do I want to kill? Well, VE. I still think his geript case was suspicious as fuck. The fact that I now believe geript is scum doesn't mean I don't think VE is also scum. Remember, geript wants to get lynched! VE could easily be his scum buddy. Also, remember the possibility of multiple scum factions. regardless of whether or not the black mesa pm circle thing is one of them. last aperture game there was a mixed-alignment pm circle and also two scum factions. I challenge everyone to read what I wrote about VE's case on geript up until geript claimed lynchproof. tell me how VE could have been pushing that case from a townie mindset. Hell, when VE answered me he didn't even respond to my takedown of his case at all, he just attacked me for "not drawing strong enough conclusions from it."
I guess since it's less than twelve hours from lynch I should be talking about consolidation as well. Currently I would also lynch Kita. Not so sure about BH anymore. Don't want to kill wos anymore either. I could get down with lynching felkyr but the case on him is kind of a coinflip between scum or noob imo. still better odds of hitting scum than a policy lynch on zentor or alakaslam (both of whom are reasonable policy lynch targets). I'm leaving my vote on VE for now, there's still 6+ hours until the lynch. I agree with most of your post but came to a different conclusion. If he is unlynchable as any alignment I see zero reason to claim it, if you are town or 3p means scum cant mislynch you and will shoot you. And if you are scum, you become a vigi shot. He is most likely lieing about being lynchproof, and there is no reason for town to do that. Therefore ##VOTE:Geript
he could gain powers when he gets lynched, there have been roles like that before
or he could just be trying to waste town's time. dandel ion scum style "i know i'll get caught how can i do the most damage before i do"
but i think the former is more likely
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vote VE duh i said already
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kita read my post about geript
do you disagree? why should we lynch him
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On September 01 2013 03:45 yamato77 wrote:because he pushed geript? nah
no because he pushed him badly
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he decides what the votes are at the end of the day instead of them being what they normally would be.
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okay axle
let's see what happens
i'm kinda leaning towards geript telling the truth so i'll vote him so you can shenannigize.
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On September 01 2013 13:33 austinmcc wrote:
gg BH
geript, I'd like to hear a specific explanation from you. If you are town, then you know mafia knows you're town. Yet you still picked up boatloads of votes, and there weren't any strong pushes off of you except a bit of movement towards felkyr at one point. Knowing that mafia would know you're town, but still let you pick up votes and didn't try to push things off you means BH likely town. I even mentioned that earlier, figuring that you were actually going to choose another target.
But you didn't. So I'm interested in why your thought process never wavered, given that there wasn't really any attempt to get a different lynch going when you were constantly saying you'd shoot BH.
This logic doesn't work. Why would scum care whether the votes were on geript or not. His claimed power didn't require that he be the lynch target, he was saying the votes just don't matter.
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On September 01 2013 13:33 austinmcc wrote:gg BH geript, I'd like to hear a specific explanation from you. If you are town, then you know mafia knows you're town. Yet you still picked up boatloads of votes, and there weren't any strong pushes off of you except a bit of movement towards felkyr at one point. Knowing that mafia would know you're town, but still let you pick up votes and didn't try to push things off you means BH likely town. I even mentioned that earlier, figuring that you were actually going to choose another target. But you didn't. So I'm interested in why your thought process never wavered, given that there wasn't really any attempt to get a different lynch going when you were constantly saying you'd shoot BH.
Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 08:40 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 01 2013 07:47 austinmcc wrote:On September 01 2013 07:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
MAH POST GOES HERE
+100 for this post. Disagree with the VA analysis as I believe his claim was legit rageclaim, but the rest feels spot-on to me.
I was starting to lose my scumread on kita too after the very beginning of the game. His "plan' in nuclear involved fakeclaiming a thing, pushing that he'd done that thing hard, messing up the thread for a bit, and eventually coming clean with a big wrapup. He stuck with that even under pressure. Here, his plan was essentially "be super pro town and then get shot," which is not exactly the most crafty plan. Yet he didn't stick with the plan here, and his play post-claim has never recovered into being a pro-town force. Do not like. holy shit, hold up here as I'm reading. austin just blatantly lied in this entire post since he figured no one would actually go back and read Nuclear mafia. 1. Never fakeclaimed in that game, I said I was VT very early on 2. care to explain the rest of this post? This guy is either not town or a retard again, just like in nuclear. This is partially correct. rayn fakeclaimed that nuke, not Vayne. FORGET THE NUCLEAR COMPARISONS. However, blatantly lying about past games figuring nobody will go back and read them (or just remember playing in them) would be an AWFUL strategy. And, despite some of my nuclear play, I'm not usually awful. You guys just have rhyming names that are very similar.
Austin this logic is bad. Why would scum be pushing votes off geript if bh was scum? That's not how vote rigger works, geript a claimed role was such that it didnt matter who voted were on.
Guys I feel like geript is more likely to be a yolo townie than scum given how his power worked out. There is like zero reason for him to have told us how his paper worked and who he was going to use it on rather than just continue to play the same way as he was before his claim. I think geript is not a good vig target tonight. Shoot VE, shoot zentor, etc before geript.
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On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.
We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript.
What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes?
Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway?
And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will?
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hey guys
On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo
i like this post, no one ever looks at dead peoples' reads but we should more
Anyway let me look at the lynch targets for today since we have a double lynch.
im considering voting shiaopi. i dont like his non-claim. i dont like his reasons for voting hiropro (hiro's def been less useless than shiao lol). i dont like the "dropping his vote on geript" thing.
i don't want to lynch geript. i still don't see how it makes any sense for him as scum to claim unlynchable when he did.
alakaslam's item use thing seems pretty solidly antitown. i could support a lynch on him for the combination of that plus the lack of analysis or other traditional pro-town mafia play in his filter.
hiropro i'm not sure about. like i said yesterday, his push on bh didn't seem like it was a serious attempt to get bh lynched but rather just an attempt to make noise, and that's scummy. however, i found myself nodding at his case on cakepie (although I also like cakepie's case on him) and i don't think "not going along with axlegreaser's plan" is a reason to call him scum when we have no idea what axlegreaser's plan does or whether axlegreaser is town. overall I guess I wouldn't mind hiropro dying but I dont think he's the best lynch for today, or even one of the best two.
I also still want to kill the kitaman. look at his filter. scummy policy lynch on dandel, then a bunch of setup stuff without reads, then a big list post (scummy) with a couple of sentences on a bunch of players, calling them all scum. he makes one reference to those reads later, when prompted, but now that the next day has started and we actually have a lynch, he hasn't actually brought any of them up again, even though he's been in the thread to make a few useless comments.
In fact, let's see what happens. ##vote: kitaman27
my next lynch preferences are alakaslam > shiaopi > hiropro.
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okay lol anonymous green check and rolenamecheck on shiaopi.
@onegu was the namecheck or the greencheck posted first? if the rolenamecheck was posted first, it would make me even more suspicious of the "green check" on him, given that the rolename was bound to draw attention in the first place. although i don't think we can put much faith in a green check when it comes from someone completely anonymous in the first place.
anyway we definitely shouldn't lynch shiaopi now. kanti was town's standout strongest power role in aperture 1. if shiaopi is actually a town kanti then scum will absolutely have to kill him tonight. then if he doesn't die tonight we can decide whether to lynch him tomorrow.
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