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randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 03 2013 20:10 GMT
#2505
On September 04 2013 04:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On September 04 2013 04:23 randombum wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:13 randombum wrote:
With what has been said since my last post I feel a bit better about slam and hassy. Slam apparently has stated he will start posting coherently, and Hassy's claim makes me want to believe that. However during this time I've gotten worse feelings about risen. He still hasn't done anything to help town find scum. Perhaps this will spur him to try a little harder.

##vote risen

I would still happily support a lynch on any of these 4 with geript still being my top choice.


Or this dude, holy fuck.

"yeah well, there's 4 possible lynches that I have nothing to do with and all of them are fine, but let me put my vote on risen as PRESSURE so that he does something"


I've been on geript since forever, slam/hassy seem to be what the thread is heading towards and who I had commented on before.

So, comment on thread sentiment is wrong, following up my previous statements is wrong, and start on somebody else is wrong. What am I suppose to do? Come up with a huge case on somebody who hasn't been considered at all and try to swing enough people in under 5 hours to get him lynched when my top scum target is still alive?

You've been on my ass all game clarity it's getting annoying.


Dude you just said you feel better about hassy and slam but you're still okay with their lynches.


Why does no one want to lynch this guy?!?!?


Better as where before I had slam/hassy > risen it's not Risen> slam/hassy I'm still not fans of them. Are you purposely missing the point
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 03 2013 20:13 GMT
#2509
Yeah I'll switch to geript before end of day. I just find it really interesting that a single vote and he writes more in one paragraph to respond to that vote than the rest of his filter combined.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 03 2013 20:17 GMT
#2511
On September 04 2013 05:13 Risen wrote:
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On September 04 2013 05:10 randombum wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:33 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:23 randombum wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On September 04 2013 04:13 randombum wrote:
With what has been said since my last post I feel a bit better about slam and hassy. Slam apparently has stated he will start posting coherently, and Hassy's claim makes me want to believe that. However during this time I've gotten worse feelings about risen. He still hasn't done anything to help town find scum. Perhaps this will spur him to try a little harder.

##vote risen

I would still happily support a lynch on any of these 4 with geript still being my top choice.


Or this dude, holy fuck.

"yeah well, there's 4 possible lynches that I have nothing to do with and all of them are fine, but let me put my vote on risen as PRESSURE so that he does something"


I've been on geript since forever, slam/hassy seem to be what the thread is heading towards and who I had commented on before.

So, comment on thread sentiment is wrong, following up my previous statements is wrong, and start on somebody else is wrong. What am I suppose to do? Come up with a huge case on somebody who hasn't been considered at all and try to swing enough people in under 5 hours to get him lynched when my top scum target is still alive?

You've been on my ass all game clarity it's getting annoying.


Dude you just said you feel better about hassy and slam but you're still okay with their lynches.


Why does no one want to lynch this guy?!?!?


Better as where before I had slam/hassy > risen it's not Risen> slam/hassy I'm still not fans of them. Are you purposely missing the point


So while geript is still your number one scum read you're still trying to make the vote counts appear skewed? Why? Pressure? Or trying to save a scum buddy.

If Geript is lynched and flips red random needs to go next.


If I wanted to save geript, I would have voted for hassy or hiro, both who could easily be lynched today and who have had more votes than gript.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 03 2013 21:15 GMT
#2536
Guys, are we really going to let geript survive another day after everything he's done to hurt us d1 and doing nothing d2?
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 21:29 GMT
#3819
Could somebody who wants to lynch me/hear from me actually ask some questions? If you are simply waiting to hear what I have to say in general then just wait a bit more for now.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 21:37 GMT
#3821
I'm not going to do anything rash like kill somebody without warning if that's what you mean by act. At the moment I'm just rereading a lot of stuff, going though filters and such working on my thoughts.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 22:51 GMT
#3833
Well, the biggest thing is who to lynch. The person I think has the biggest chance of flipping scum is rayne. I picked his filter first because he was the first one to vote me and what I see screams scum. I doubled checked his voting patterns because it's a lot shorter and to start with that looks terrible. His final votes have been geript, geript, debears. Not a good start.

Then there's his wanting to lynch of me. This is the only post where he has a reason for wanting to lynch me.

On September 03 2013 02:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
randombum's case on vayne was shit, he never tells why anything he says makes vayne scum (and vayne is totes town). Other than that there is nothing much than some random questions from random people and and vote on geript (i don't think that's alignment indicative). Could be scum.



His only post of substance regarding me way early in the game and it ends on could be scum. Note the bolded, he is convinced vayne is town when he has since flipped 3p. A scum would know he's not scum and assume town. Actually, I went and looked up what he had to say about vayne this game and it's so flip-floppy. He starts out wanting vayne lynched, but then he suddenly really doens't want vayne lynched instead he wants to find out who vayne would likely target so he knows when the best time for scum to kill him is.
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On August 30 2013 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vayne's first post was quite weird for town!vayne. Wahtddya think Koshi and Clarity?


On August 30 2013 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 30 2013 18:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Koshi is totes town, cephiro is... totes town, and geript is weird but probably town.

Okay, good that we are on the same page. :D
Want to lynch vayne?


On August 30 2013 19:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 30 2013 19:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2013 18:58 Clarity_nl wrote:
Koshi is totes town, cephiro is... totes town, and geript is weird but probably town.

Okay, good that we are on the same page. :D
Want to lynch vayne?


I'm not sure I'm comfortable being on the same page as you.

I dunno. I really don't like that he calls cephiro a good shot, but not scum. Like I get the sentiment of shooting lurkers but cephiro is no lurker.
That said, as koshi puts it, vayne shows to care about this game, which probably means he's a bad lynch today.
Wanna lynch WoS instead?

When vayne cares about the game from the beginning it's alarming.
I never want to lynch WoS anymore, ever. No, but for real, why WoS?


On August 31 2013 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
cephiro, felkyr, obviousone all scum lol

this game is easy so far

cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.

Felkyr - how long did it take you to make that entrance post, an hour?

obviousone - Instead of going with town sentiment and finding me scummy he immediately jumps to a 3rd party conclusion since he knows I'm not on his scumteam. Very strange conclusion to draw this early in the game.


vayne, a couple of things:
- Why do you call out Cephiro especially when multiple people have expressed wanting to lynch you because of you entrance to the game, and told it does not make sense for you as town.
- Your read on OO especially makes me think you are mafia. No more to be said on that matter yet.


Then after vayne claims.

On September 02 2013 02:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 02 2013 02:26 MrZentor wrote:
Assuming his vote rigging ability is a scum role, it would be best for them to use it later in the game. This gives mafia a strong motivation for saving geript, even if it's risky

Which would lead them to vote for the person who is most likely to be lynched besides geript.
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On September 01 2013 01:17 Crossfire99 wrote:
Day 1 Lynch

geript (6): VisceraEyes, Alakaslam, Cephiro, Clarity_nl, Blazinghand, Dandel Ion, randombum, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
Oatsmaster (0): Dandel Ion (cDgCorazon)
Koshi (0): WaveofShadow
Dandel Ion (0): kitaman27
kitaman27 (0): Dandel Ion, raynpelikoneet
WaveOfShadow (1): AxleGreaser, ShiaoPi
ShiaoPi (1): WaveofShadow
Blazinghand (1): HiroPro, raynpelikoneet
Felkyr (4): Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
cephiro (0): Blazinghand
Mr. Cheesecake (1): Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (1): strongandbig
MrZentor (1): AxleGreaser
Alakaslam (1): cakepie

The lynch will happen in at Sunday, Sep 01 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). With 31 alive it takes 16 to lynch. Let me know if I missed something or made a mistake. Remember that only votes in the voting thread count and voting is required.



All I'm saying is that if geript flips mafia, we need to kill one of those people. I don't know if he will or not.

So you are saying we purposely let geript play like shit and then tried to lynch Felkyr as an opposing wagon?
I wasn't even here, did you even look at how my vote ended up on Felkyr and then on geript?
Also Clarity, vayne and Koshi are not scum for sure.


On September 04 2013 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also why the fuck are you attacking Vayne Cephiro?


On September 04 2013 10:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 04 2013 10:37 Cephiro wrote:
On September 04 2013 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 04 2013 10:29 HiroPro wrote:
Oh wait VE, you can get rid of this circle on me right! Could you do that please

First you ask me to go away and now you want favors? Get outta here Hiro. LOL


VE, up for a Vayne lynch tomorrow?

Why the fuck do you want to lynch a townie? Seriously?


On September 04 2013 11:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 04 2013 11:27 Cephiro wrote:
On September 04 2013 11:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i do not bother.


Yep. You got caught, and you're just trying to sidestep the issue because you can't talk yourself out of it. Just like Vayne & Oats have been doing. Too bad that this should be obvious enough for the rest of the town now, they won't hesitate voting on you for any longer. You all scum will die.

I will make sure this is the quote everyone remembers when me and vayne flip. I will make damn sure you feel bad and wrong because you have no fucking idea what you are talking about. That being said i am not sure about Oats.


His only reasoning for not wanting to lynch vayne anymore is because he believed his claim. You know what, that's not terrible instant scum reasoning, but look at what he tries to get out of it later.

On August 31 2013 02:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 31 2013 02:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
oh wow two of the scum I already nailed parading in and trying to discredit me again. who would have fucking thought rofl?

get out of the thread scum.

Do you mean Cephiro and Felkyr? Have those guys played with you before? I think their thought process seems reasonable. Sadly, given your appereance in this game, it does not tell anything about their alignment.


On August 31 2013 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are not achieving anything by throwing shit at vayne. Stop it right now. It will only lead into shitfest that definitely does not help us finding scum.

vayne, could you look at my post, did you mean Cephiro and Felkyr?



On August 31 2013 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 31 2013 02:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
On August 31 2013 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You are not achieving anything by throwing shit at vayne. Stop it right now. It will only lead into shitfest that definitely does not help us finding scum.

vayne, could you look at my post, did you mean Cephiro and Felkyr?


yes, I've made small outlines on why I think they are scum and they look really intent on trying to get rid of me but the kicker is they actually aren't doing much of anything.

read through cephiro's filter and tell me what you think, especially the post where he says he's fine with lynching lurkers but would rather lynch "better candidates" first (read active people)

I had a town read on Cephiro earlier for his pressure on geript. Looking at it now the read has weakened, as he is calling geript out for reasons i do not think geript is scum for and he is sticking to them. I do not understand his reasons attacking you (someone not saying "i'm town" does not make then scum). I do not understand his reasons attacking yamato, yet that's a minor point. Him asking Koshi to give the item to him makes me lean town on him again, i don't see scum straight up asking something like that. I can understand his reasons (after the initial "you did not say you are town"-failure) for thinking you are mafia if he has not played with you before. I do not think he said he is "okay with a lurker lynch" as you present it. I think he said pretty much the opposite (that he is not okay with lurker lynch).

Overall i do not think he is scum atm. What makes you strongly think he is scum?

What about Felkyr?

btw i gotta go for couple of hours, i'll get back to you after that.


Trying to push vayne towards certain targets so he can kill vayne and get free town kills out of his role. In particular he wanted felkr dead who has a green check.


Anyways, back to him trying to lynch me

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On September 04 2013 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 04 2013 00:48 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 04 2013 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 04 2013 00:27 kitaman27 wrote:
From a game design standpoint, it does make sense to provide the mafia with a tool to disrupt the passing of items that are claimed openly in the thread.

Does it make sense there is not a tool regarding that for mafia?


A thief type role would also address that concern. Tough to say without the role list. It also wouldn't be out of the question of being a town role.

Who are your top two lynch preferences? It's not quite clear.

geript + randombum/alakaslam/hassy. I would like to hear more from them. Also debears looks bad to me. My vote is on geript and will stay there.


On September 04 2013 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why are you lynching Hassy?

Lynch geript!
Lynch alakaslam/randombum/whoever


Why Hassy? What is the motivation for his actions as mafia?


On September 05 2013 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
From the other thread i think randombum, Cephiro and MrZentor are scum, maybe even WoS. I think what's gonna happen there is town lynch, unfortunately.

Clarity, i think your post before the deadline was good. Who do you think we should lynch? Slam/debears?
I am okay with either one of them.


On September 07 2013 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The other thread lynch randombum!!


On September 07 2013 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mr.CC: Make those fuckers lynch randombum. He is likely to be scum. We get info from voting patterns. Someone might even be able t reveal his alignment post-death.


On September 09 2013 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I could lynch Zentor or randombum the most.


On September 09 2013 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Vote: randombum

I think we should lynch him. Why did WoS go silent on ShiaoPi last night? Is he scum too?


On September 09 2013 01:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In case the cop who copped ShioPi and Felkyr is legit i pretty much see no other options for scum than randombum and WoS. Everyone else looks more or less town.


On September 09 2013 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't forget randombum and today's lynch. :D



That's it, not a single reason. His last actual comment about me was over 5 days ago and it concluded maybe. He doesn't actually have reasons to think I'm scum, he just notices that some people do and so he would join an easy mislynch.

Outside of pokemon what exactly has he done? He's voted geript (not that I blame him for this one) he tried to save OO and get a not scum debears lynched. Going over his filter I haven't seen one thing that helps town. All his votes and pushes have been on town or to save scum.

He claims town pokemon trainer and gets tons of town cred for it because why would a scum trainer out himself like this?. But now there's this

On September 09 2013 05:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all me being alive is not a reason for me being scum. The rest of the post makes no sense and i useless speculation. There is not a single reason why i am scum.

If we kill the mafia pokemon dude, i become pretty much confirmed town. There is not a single reason why should i have claimed as scum. There is not a single reason why the other guy would be town. The suggestion that "rayn is playing with the hosts" is absurd and dumb. Mafia can't NK me, because doing that does not kill me until all my pokemons are dead. They need to lynch me. That's why they try to lynch me.

I am not here "doing nothing". Just because i don't make big posts with townreads and shit does not mean i am scum.


Mafia cannot kill the other pokemon trainer, so they need to fish him out so they can lynch him. The only reason he got so much town cred is because no town trainer counterclaimed him, but a town pokemon trainer would paint a giant ass target on himself to scum who have a much better chance of getting a mislynch if it comes down to a coinflip, or if worse case scenerio mafia scum find town trainer and don't waste night shots on him. This is assuming he isn't making the whole thing up.

If you take pokemon away everything he has done has been hurting town.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 22:52 GMT
#3834
With all that said ##vote rayne
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 22:54 GMT
#3836
Well I think it comes down to if the other person comes in and claims rival pokemon master or not. I assume stutters has a name, and stutters seems to believe that person is townier.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 23:02 GMT
#3839
Why would I say anything about others when I am not trying to get them lynched at the moment? I asked people to ask me what they wanted to know, if not I would rather focus on getting scum lynched instead of spamming the thread up.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 23:04 GMT
#3840
I think Risen is telling the truth about being 3P. There, does that help town in any way shape or form? No it's pointless filler that distracts town if we start discussing Risen.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 23:11 GMT
#3847
Last night I had no way to kill you, 2 days ago I had no ways to lynch you. Night before that I couldn't kill you. Before that I wanted geript dead.

Why would I warn mafia that I really want to lynch one of their members so they can kill me?
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 23:18 GMT
#3850
Also, rayne, please adress how you tried to save OO, the flip flop on vayne into trying to control his actions. And feel free to point out what else you have done this game besides pokemon.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 08 2013 23:54 GMT
#3860
On September 09 2013 08:18 randombum wrote:
Also, rayne, please adress how you tried to save OO, the flip flop on vayne into trying to control his actions. And feel free to point out what else you have done this game besides pokemon.


Since I know you've read it, can you stop avoiding.

On September 09 2013 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No Clarity, we lynch the other dude or randombum, because there is no way scum would be claiming now unless:
1) They have no other chance of winning and randombum is scum.
2) Some other big play

There just is no reason why Stutters would out this shit now, or why "suddenly the other guy is claiming", like do they think randombum is town? wtf?


The only conclusion is that it's town claiming now.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 09 2013 00:47 GMT
#3869
Anyways, since clarity asked, other reads.

Zentor is super scummy looking to me, but he's going to flip anyways so let's leave it at that.

There's something super fishy going on between zentor/hiro/ceph. Ceph has been all buddy buddy with zentor all game except now he wants to day vig him. Like I don't understand why somebody would day kill somebody they have been defending without warning and the person told to actually does it. These three are even fishier because all three of them wanted to vote me in casket for nothing essentially, but when they saw the other four people were not going to do it happening they abandoned ship pretty fast.

I don't think anybody else is really worth mentioning at the moment since they are not likely lynch targets unless stutters' reveal is crazy.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 09 2013 20:18 GMT
#4278
On September 10 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 10 2013 04:31 Risen wrote:
Rayn why are you defending Hiro so hard right now?

We have Hiro who is scummy, this is agreed on by everyone
Rayn who had a conceivable mistake in his green claim on me, but hasn't done anything all game and is defending Hiro
and Randombum who also hasn't done anything all game

what are you talking about, i have been wanting to lynch randombum two day phases in a row?
I am not against Hiro lynch.


Why exactly have you been trying to hard to get me lynched for 2 day cylces. You haven't posted a single reason outside of what you said over 6 days ago. All you do is keep shouting "Lynch randombum!"

I point out reasons that not only have you also been useless rayne, but what you have tried to do has been actively anti-town, but nobody cares.

The only reason it looks like I'm more of a candidate today than you is because I don't say every 2 hours "Lynch Rayne!"

This is why I hate playing town as mafia. Nobody cares what you say or how you say it. It only depends on how often you say something. Whenever I get town scum always targets me as a easy mislynch and I always catch them doing it, but it doesn't matter because I'm not around to yell it out often enough. When I try to do something nobody reads it or responds to it. Except cakepie. He's 100% town in my eyes.

Can somebody actually point to something rayne has done besides pokemon, yell to lynch me with no reasoning, or anything in general that helped town?

For god sakes he's one of the 2 players in the game who both didn't vote for slam and voted dabears. The other has (felkr) a green check on him.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 09 2013 20:49 GMT
#4305
On September 10 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
randombum you are so bad or scum. I don't even care to answer because what you are saying is bullshit. I have been the most involved player in todays lynch, you are the guy who is shouting a week old reasons for lynching me, something that apparently didn't exist for you before today.


It's a week old reason because that's the last time YOU gave a reason for wanting me lynched. You have tunneled me non-stop and the last reason you gave has been over a week old. It's the easiest thing as scum to do. Find a bullshit or in your case non-existant reason to push somebody. Do nothing bu say "lynch this guy!" all game to seem like your active, but not actually take place in pushing for his lynch.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 09 2013 20:50 GMT
#4307
On September 10 2013 05:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
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On September 10 2013 05:18 randombum wrote:
On September 10 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 10 2013 04:31 Risen wrote:
Rayn why are you defending Hiro so hard right now?

We have Hiro who is scummy, this is agreed on by everyone
Rayn who had a conceivable mistake in his green claim on me, but hasn't done anything all game and is defending Hiro
and Randombum who also hasn't done anything all game

what are you talking about, i have been wanting to lynch randombum two day phases in a row?
I am not against Hiro lynch.


Why exactly have you been trying to hard to get me lynched for 2 day cylces. You haven't posted a single reason outside of what you said over 6 days ago. All you do is keep shouting "Lynch randombum!"

I point out reasons that not only have you also been useless rayne, but what you have tried to do has been actively anti-town, but nobody cares.

The only reason it looks like I'm more of a candidate today than you is because I don't say every 2 hours "Lynch Rayne!"

This is why I hate playing town as mafia. Nobody cares what you say or how you say it. It only depends on how often you say something. Whenever I get town scum always targets me as a easy mislynch and I always catch them doing it, but it doesn't matter because I'm not around to yell it out often enough. When I try to do something nobody reads it or responds to it. Except cakepie. He's 100% town in my eyes.

Can somebody actually point to something rayne has done besides pokemon, yell to lynch me with no reasoning, or anything in general that helped town?

For god sakes he's one of the 2 players in the game who both didn't vote for slam and voted dabears. The other has (felkr) a green check on him.


Is Hiro mafia?


Very likely. I would be very suprised if the ceph/hiro/zentor trio didn't have at least 1 if not 2 mafia.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 09 2013 20:52 GMT
#4309
If it means anything I find myself highly willing to follow austin's plan. I can confirm I am town and we won't waste a mislynch on me.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
September 09 2013 20:54 GMT
#4310
Ceph, can you clarify something for me, you gave a kp to hiro under the assumption he would do what you said? Do you have 100% faith hiro is town?
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