EPTOn September 01 2013 02:22 geript wrote:
Well BH any last words?
Well BH any last words?
Be Brown! Kill the Red Man! Paint the streets with his blood.
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On September 01 2013 02:44 strongandbig wrote: but maybe they will! I already wrote a big takedown of his day1, all they have to do is read it there's still hope! But strong, don't you know? It's not about what you say, it's about how many posts you make! On September 01 2013 02:44 strongandbig wrote: hiro you're experienced enough to know if you really want to get bh lynched you're going to have to be more persuasive than that and you're going to have to analyze more of his output than just his vote switch to geript. at this point all you're doing is building up meaningless thread presence. why dont you want to kill VE? talk to me about it. alternatively: how strongly do you feel about not giving geript the lynch he so fervently desires? would you switch to felkyr or mrzentor if need be to avoid it? At this point geript is probably vengeful or something. Or he just is doing whatever he feels like because he can. /shrug As far as I see it right now, we're either going to end up with a nolynch or a geript lynch. I don't the case on Felkyr is very strong at all. Could be town, could be mafia. but again no real reason to kill him over others. Zentor is a vig shot - you know this. | ||
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On September 01 2013 07:10 austinmcc wrote: ##vote: geript Although on the off chance you're not trying to be sneakypants here, I'd like to remind you that saying I WON'T BE LYNCHED AND IF YOU LYNCH ME I'MA KILL BH should actually be leading you to be townie on BH right now and NOT shoot him. So, if you weren't being sneakypants, you've telegraphed a target and are still getting lynched/are picking up a buncha votes. Leading me to believe that BH isn't a good alternate target, just based on that. I'd rather you pop kita, ShiaoPi, or VA. Read the thread. I expect better from you. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:01 Blazinghand wrote: I don't know why everyone's all up on me for low D1 activity as though that's some kind of scumtell, as though I've ever done that as scum besides in parallel worlds mafia ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/50centdriving.gif) | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:14 Cephiro wrote: Axle, don't use your power please. ^ what he said. | ||
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On September 01 2013 08:25 Clarity_nl wrote: Well I'd like to hear the reasons from each of them respectively Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. | ||
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On September 01 2013 04:14 kitaman27 wrote: cakepie seems to need to be prompted for his contributions, which is a concern. His vote is currently for a policy lynch, but it would be unfair for me out of all people to criticize that. He explains that he is filter diving, but there is little evidence that anything came out of that. I don't really understand the point of a pressure vote on felkyr if he is going to point out that it is a pressure vote. It isn't clear that there is anyone in this game that cakepie actually thinks is mafia. ObviousOne is one of those people that I'm suspicious of based on his town read on Dandel so early into the game. He seems to be around, but not very interested in the game. He decides to sheep Dandel with the geript vote without actually mentioning him at any point in his filter. I'm curious kita. How do you still feel about these two? | ||
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I'm fairly certain that cakepie is mafia based on the way that he goes after his vote targets. He doesn't seem to be interested in looking for mafia but instead goes after players on fairly inconsequential things. On day 1, he goes after alakaslam on the assertion that he's useless even if town and randomly decides to announce that he's pressure voting Felkyr. These are fairly "safe" classic mafia votes; there's no pressure to provide actual valid reasoning with these types of votes. Even now in his push on me he never attempts to explain why any of my actions or behavior are mafia-motivated. For example, what's the purpose of trying to dissuade Axlegreaser from using his power if I'm mafia and know that it won't matter as the wagon gets changed? It's also important to note that not once has cakepie offered any sort of opinion on geript's alignment. What town player does this? There is no town motivation in completely avoiding the major issue of this game. geript has been the major lynch target since almost the middle of day 1 and yet cakepie hasn't said a word about what he thinks geript's alignment may be? For the record, the reason I knew about the player list being important is that I played in the Aperture 2: Portal mafia game, nothing to do with my role. As for my "knowing" that BH would die day 1, simple logic: nobody chooses to get themselves lynched unless they have the ability to do something with it. ##Vote cakepie | ||
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On September 02 2013 11:42 Felkyr wrote: Did you already explain why you tried to dissuade AG from using his power? Please do so. Yes, I already explained this. Read my filter. I also have made no attempt to offer an opinion on geript's alignment. I have thought about it, but everything I could think of has already been said one way or the other. It's complicated and I don't think I could figure it out at the moment. Cakepie might think the same. I find this a useless/weak reason to attack Cakepie. I do not like it. You're a completely new player in a fairly ridiculous themed game and indicated day 1 that you wouldn't lynch geript. That's understandable. cakepie seems to at least have a moderate understanding of how to play and has played in more than 1 game, had access to coaches, and observed games beforehand. | ||
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On September 02 2013 12:06 Felkyr wrote: He may have thought it about, but Axlegreaser did not seem have the same opinion of BH/VE being very likely mafia that I did. Furthermore from the posts of his that I read he did seem to indicate that there would be some sort of small risk if there were multiple mafia there:+ Show Spoiler + On September 02 2013 11:56 HiroPro wrote: Yes, I already explained this. Read my filter. You're a completely new player in a fairly ridiculous themed game and indicated day 1 that you wouldn't lynch geript. That's understandable. cakepie seems to at least have a moderate understanding of how to play and has played in more than 1 game, had access to coaches, and observed games beforehand. Would it be this? It's the only thing I found between a lot of rubble. It's already late and I'm sorry if there is anything else. I find this very weak... AG made very clear that he thought very deeply about the effect of his power. For me, this is a very bad reason to tell him not to use his power. Or you didn't read, or you didn't care. Why?Does that mean you dont trust them?(BTW I am happy if only two of the three are town) "Thus unless you mistrust say 2 or more of them then I say (with more knowledge than you) that the plan is pro town and you should help me by allowing the max number of them to swap." You said this... I don't see anything else where YOU form an opinion of geript's alignment. What is your opinion? You have to be kidding, right? On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote: I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread). And finally: I suppose you don't want to explain this to me? I'm new and don't know all this metagame stuff. There's no point in explaining. You wouldn't understand without having played in games with Chezinu. | ||
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On September 02 2013 12:48 Felkyr wrote: Dude... that's like 'ages' before stuff happened, and you don't give an alignment opinion there either. It is before you said you can't determine his alignment based on the rig. You haven't given a decent alignment opinion yourself. And still you attack Cakepie for the same reason. You don't make sense to me. ##Vote: HirePro It should be fairly obvious from the points that I raise in that post, the manner that I talk about him, and the fact that I spent most of my day 1 attacking BH that I consider geript town. Just because I don't explicitly say "this guy is town" doesn't mean I haven't offered an opinion on him on or indicated what I think his alignment is -_- What "stuff" are you talking about other than the fact that he rigged the vote to kill BH? Has cakepie ever once said anything about geript's play this game? | ||
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On September 02 2013 13:31 austinmcc wrote: You just aren't Chezinuing hard enough. I have seen zero posts in which you claim to be a bank. I think I've done that before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=15107699 | ||
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On September 02 2013 15:21 AxleGreaser wrote: What's the motivation in me even bothering to ask you to hold your power as mafia? geript had said multiple times that votes weren't going to matter at all for the day. If I was mafia, I would know for certain that your power would just be wasted, so why would I tell you to not use your power if I was mafia?So apart from... simply state and when asked reply VE + BH scum. + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2013 08:28 HiroPro wrote: Because Blazinghand is almost certainly mafia and viscera is very likely mafia also. His power is obviously not a negative effect as he's openly requesting people to vote for him and doesn't seem concerned about backlash. Giving them any benefit/power is just dumb. Did you try to convince me they were scum and it would be better plan to use another 3. Did you nominate another 3. Did you try and find out how small the risk and whether in risk versus reward sense i claimed it was Ok? Did you check if I 'didnt seem concerned' but had instead been deliberately as restrictive as I could in what I said? Aka as you didnt know if backlash from two was problem did you find out for sure? As it turns out you were likely wrong about both VE and Bh, did you try and find out why i thought different? A towny question you could have asked yourself is was I right(you wrong) I wrong(you right) or scum? Did you check out just how analytically I had exactly been in evaluating the entire tree of possibilities. The way i tell the difference between scum and town is by the intentions behind the stuff they do do. and also by the stuff they try and do and how well. So very many towny things you could have tried to do given the mindset you claim to have had Please show me you trying to do towny things today. ##vote: HiroPro | ||
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