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On September 09 2013 10:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: been sleeping so I dont know what people wrote yet. However Cheese if we happen to get to point where you could safely vote for me without jeopardising the lynch would you be willing? My best estimate is that no matter your role PM says except unless its scum then it is in your best interests to do so. I will also state I think its in towns obviously.... Dear other readers, you have heard of WIFOM... this is AxleFOM... dont bother. Do note i may say nah changed my mind after you answer :) | ||
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On September 09 2013 11:41 Crossfire99 wrote: I can neither confirm nor deny anything. I see I have a lot to learn about hosting. Thanks for prompt response! On September 09 2013 13:01 Felkyr wrote: I agree that Stutters should finally come totally clear with all the BM stuff. Onegu and Stutters claimed BM/town in the beginning of the game, with the 'promise' we would hear about it. But it has been clear that several stuff has happened there which we never heard about, which is fishy. Oh really, so what BM stuff do you know about that I don't? ----- On September 09 2013 13:01 Felkyr wrote: why say the other dude is (way) more townie due to a role name That's not even close to what he said. Try again. ----- On September 09 2013 13:01 Felkyr wrote: Hmm, I always thought Rayn rather clear on this point (although other things about his role are more obscure), and Cakepie seemed to be on the same track too. No, look carefully. While everyone else used the terms "pokemon (characters/masters/trainers)" interchangeably to discuss the situation, I was careful to talk about "pokemon trainer" specifically to distinguish that from my role. I cannot be sure if there are two pokemon trainers or not, as rayn may or may not be honest. But rayn is clearly pokemon related in some way, and me makes two. Try putting yourself in my shoes, with everyone talking about hunting for any arbitrary second pokemon character. My calculus looks like: 1. I coulda got killed for simply being a pokemon dude; 2. claiming role too early = bad; 3. but people need to know that their premise is incorrect. (3) just recently outweighed (1) and (2), -- pokemon wasn't really a very big deal before, so I could wait, but that has now changed. ----- On September 09 2013 13:01 Felkyr wrote: Stutters revealing the so called other pokemon trainer in that way makes me believe he and Rayn are not both scum (or it would be some scum powerplay?). Then Cakepie comes in to 'save' Stutters. Cakepie, why are you defending Stutters like this? This was not about defending stutters. It is about stopping misinformation, and halting a meaningless wagon, because there are better things to do and talk about. There was so much better discussion going on before everyone seemed to get sucked into this pointless thing, which wasn't even based on the correct premise. Everyone was just looking for two pokemon characters because to them obviously two guys fighting it out, right? If it's a binary choice then we must vote stutters and make him squeal so that we can lynch into the two candidates, right? Wrong. Pokemon consuming the entire discussion, and lynching between Rayn and myself just because pokemon came to the fore would be a terrible idea. Looking into yesterday's lynch patterns and such is more likely to be productive. But only I had that information, and it needed to be out there, preferably now rather than later, so that people can digest this, judge it, and work with it. I can't wait for stutters to reveal, because that might be too late, or I may not be around at that time -- I know I will be fairly busy at work Monday, and if I somehow come under fire close to deadline, I won't be able to defend myself adequately or make long arguments about my role. You'll see that I tried to sound cheesecake out to see if he just forgot about N2 (or was hiding something maybe), because he didn't say anything about it I thought perhaps I might have gotten blocked (which was really odd scenario because why the fuck would someone do that unless I hit scum N1 and they figured me out). So in the midst of all this I fucked up, alright? I know I haven't been playing the best this game, and fucking up stuff does not help. I can't promise my availability tomorrow (RL) so the towniest thing I can do is offer this information right now so that we all know. That way we can talk about it while I am available, and if people want to vote me I can defend. Whether I do get mislynched or not, I can contribute information. If I let the "lynch one pokemon guy or the other" posse go unchecked and shit hits the fan close to deadline while I am at work in a meeting and unable to contribute, that's bad for town. Although that seems to have killed all conversation instead. *shrug* Is stutters town? I think so, but I am not sure. Onegu was the townier of the two BM dudes that claimed here, but stutters seems okay. Stutters also outed the sleeper cell, although we'll have to see what the deal with that really is. I don't think that stutters & austin are both scum -- maybe one, or neither -- the bunny pics don't make sense otherwise -- two scum don't need to do it to communicate, and I don't see them going through all that trouble to make shit up about some fake sleeper cell ala personality 2. On September 09 2013 13:01 Felkyr wrote: I'm waiting on Austin's answers/explanations for his sleeper cell actions. I am also waiting on austin, because he seems to be doing alignment testing or such shenanies with stutters and his other cronies. Whatup axle, I think you had questions for me but maybe you want to catch up first before talking to me cuz shit kinda hit the fan. I'll be around for a bit more before going to bed. | ||
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I needed to be told pokemon was card game... (and a ...) So catching up on Pokemon if i have to google all the words will take awhile... | ||
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On September 09 2013 14:47 cakepie wrote: sure, talk to me. On September 08 2013 09:29 cakepie wrote: Cool, do you take responsibility for Oats or Vayne as well? Why did you ask this question about those two players? | ||
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Where you said it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19698472 On September 09 2013 14:52 AxleGreaser wrote: Why those two players? | ||
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On September 09 2013 14:52 AxleGreaser wrote: Why did you ask this question about those two players? Because confirming plausible crumb On September 04 2013 11:26 Cephiro wrote: Vigilantes, target these tonight: Oatsmaster VayneAuthority raynpelikoneet Scum will have a hard choice to make tonight, if they'll try to kill me or not. They know I'm onto them and will pressure them hard, but killing me will make the situation look even worse for them, as they've all tried blatant OMGUS on me. Play smart fellow townies, I have trust in thee. | ||
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On September 09 2013 14:58 AxleGreaser wrote: Or even Where you said it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19698472 I don't understand what you mean? | ||
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On September 09 2013 15:03 cakepie wrote: Because confirming plausible crumb Fine I was hoping there was reason I didn't know about. | ||
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but when I didn't know how you could pick two out of N and get yes I was worried. Looked like you knew the rest were scum kills somehow.... but that would be too silly so I was  Do you have any hints where to start understand this pokemon stuff. Where did Professor Oak come up? | ||
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On September 09 2013 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tomorrow i am gonna make a recap of my claim and everything regarding it. You can then decide if it makes sense or not. I am also gonna mason someone town to prove my claim. If you after that think i am scum, you can lynch me. Rayn it will prove you have mason power not how or when you got it... | ||
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On September 09 2013 15:11 AxleGreaser wrote: Do you have any hints where to start understand this pokemon stuff. Where did Professor Oak come up? It's mostly flavor so don't worry too much about the fact that you don't know about pokemon or whatevs. I mean, I only know the basics myself but it's enough. Basically, it's a video game in which pokemon masters/trainers have these little critters and they do battle. + Show Spoiler [brief rundown for the pokemon-illterate] + So after N1, Pikachu died. Rayn claim: He is a town pokemon master, and that pikachu was his pokemon, he'd just lost a fight. Because the death of pikachu gives powers to scum, Rayn does not want to have pokemon fights. See: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19650556 There is a bit of talk about it and rayn chases after a couple people who seem interested about the pokemon stuff but it doesn't really go anywhere. At some point, it is also revealed/claimed that by killing rayn's pikachu, scum gained a one-time mason power (yes you other guys I am not messing this up this time!) See: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19684780 The possibility is raised that there are two pokemon trainer roles in this game, fighting with one another. Rayn claims to be the townie character, the protagonist of the games, named Red [I know, stupid Japanese video game character names, and the color doesn't match the word, but deal with it.] Therefore any other person who shows up with a pokemon-related role is scumscumscum. But this is not completely correct. (see below). Then N3 another pokemon dies. Rayn claims this was his victory and it has conferred him a one-time mason ability as well. The rest is basically p192 up until present. Professor Oak: that's me. My role is a character from the pokemon franchise, but I am not a pokemon trainer, I am not involved in any pokemon battles, and I am town. Therefore, I have been wary about all this talk that once two pokemon-related roles are revealed, we should lynch into them, i.e. Rayn vs someone else. Obviously, I don't want to die to this incorrect premise, and it is not beneficial to reveal my role to scum too early, so I've been adopting a wait-and-see approach as long as it does not affect the town scumhunt. (In the sense that town is working on an incorrect premise, because if rayn is telling the truth, then there is a third player in this game (other than Rayn and myself) who has a pokemon-related role, and that's the scum we want to kill.) Why shit blew up? Or tl;dr from P192 to present
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So stutters immediately comes to the conclusions that you're the other trainer rayn is talking about and decides to NOT reveal you and blow up the thread instead? Well that was great. I still wanna lynch randombum over rayn. On September 08 2013 10:05 Stutters695 wrote: The BM cop confirmed his sanity last night so unless you think the previous checks are people who might have dt immune roles, they're town. At a glance it also appears risen is telling the truth and he isn't Yi. Need to think on that though Did we ever get a check result from so called cop last night btw? | ||
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On September 09 2013 18:41 Clarity_nl wrote: So it comes down to. You did stuff to stutters (which you did to me n1, so I believe you), stutters realizes it's pokemon flavor... So stutters immediately comes to the conclusions that you're the other trainer rayn is talking about and decides to NOT reveal you and blow up the thread instead? Well that was great. I don't presume to know what stutters thinks, and I might even be wrong about him thinking it's me, but with pokemon shitting up the thread I had to dispel the incorrect assumption that so many people were starting to work off. Plus, I don't want stutters naming me vs rayn as the two pokemon characters while I'm not around to do damage control. You got anything to ask or bounce off me before I call it a night? | ||
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