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AxleGreaser
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On September 09 2013 03:37 MrZentor wrote: Okay guys, this is my read. Cephiro is scum. I hope this helps. On September 09 2013 03:39 MrZentor wrote: He wouldn't. I just want you guys to kill him for being so stupid. Your towny impersonation could do with little improving. | ||
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AxleGreaser
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Hey Rayn why were you certain "Risen is town" | ||
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On September 09 2013 03:40 Risen wrote: Every town member in this game who has read my recent posting is incompetent. Ok Risen seeing as the below is the obvious way to make up an answer to fit those posts... (BTW that doesnt mean Rayn did just that if he had to thats what hed do...) How is anyone terrible for not following that up. Or are you just trying harder to prove you are either 3P or scum by distracting the thread. Its Ok I already firmly believe you are one of those. On September 09 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: His overall play and cases exactly match his play from GoT. Now as I remember it There are votes on RandomBum.... and i want to know if he has anything to say, before some other power mad loony nukes him... without more warning. And i have questions for WOS. I also have questions for other people that have not posted in most of the first 19hrs of today. (maybe they did at the start...) So if you are town and cruise by the thread please post and see if i want to clarify something with you. I mean after bad couple of days Id have thought town players might finally be starting to be keen again. | ||
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AxleGreaser
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On September 09 2013 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: His overall play and cases exactly match his play from GoT. Earlier in post by you http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19685549 Risen: I wouldn't consider him a lurker. I liked his pushback against cheese n2. That said he's being nothing like GoT where his opening post had 6 scumreads in it. Who are his scumreads this game? I dunno. Look into this guy more. Is that your read or is that a quote? | ||
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While if you are town thats easy for you to know for me its much harder, and i know tend to read your play as scummy even when its not, soits going to be hard for me to see your point of view. Ok? In previous exchange you said "Not explaining it again. Read my filter." I did. + Show Spoiler + Originally here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19646000 you said On September 01 2013 07:27 WaveofShadow wrote: Already explained it; first of all I think he's scum but since my vote doesn't matter, meh. I don't want to vote for Geript because while I believe he may be telling the truth, I don't trust the way this setup works and I do not want to allow other people to perform actions on me when I have control over someone's ability to do so. you said this subsequently On September 01 2013 08:38 WaveofShadow wrote: I am fine with AG's plan for the record. I am just worried about your confidence in going along with it. and in my filter I explained that my plan was fine even if some of the three were scum yet still even though you "I am fine with AG's plan" you cant swap your vote onto the geript wagon to enable my plan to work? even though I say the thing you are concerned about (BH's confidence in going along with it) is fine. Playing as town is hard... you have to cooperate with people you only probably think are townies...(in this case me and my plan) its the effort to try and do that I am not seeing. That part of playing as town is also hard to fake as scum. So yes even though you have explained that in your filter... I could do with you clarifying why some more. In there you say "I don't want to vote for Geript because while I believe he may be telling the truth, I don't trust the way this setup works and I do not want to allow other people to perform actions on me when I have control over someone's ability to do so." Who did you think might be going to perform actions and what was the risk to towns win con? Presumably you were also most confident Shiaopi was scum (aka your strongest read) | ||
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AxleGreaser
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On September 09 2013 04:54 WaveofShadow wrote: I was afraid that voting for Geript would cause something bad to happen, since he was essentially asking for it, and looked scummy as all hell. If you want to see another example of my paranoia regarding heavily themed games, look at my refusal to ##Lovetap in the most recent PTP game. I don't know what could have happened exactly that would cause an antitown outcome, it's a Greymist game. I was most confident of Shiao being scum at the time, and then he masoned me. At first I figured it was just a ploy to gain confidence as we were both voting each other, then I grew to trust him, even though I figured out that he recruited me to his mason chat because he may have wanted to shoot me at a later time. We had a little bit of discussion before he was shot but not that much more; I've already mentioned that. Yes I can understand not wanting to do the love tap thing i was saying noooooo when i read the game. You are town, as nearly every other townie was on that wagon.. if there is risk to town that you dont want to take... I dont recall you emphasising that to the other townies in the game. How did you grow to trust him? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust just seemed to evaporate? | ||
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The only plausible thing i could think was scum:geript might need majority to redirect the lynch. | ||
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You are town, as nearly every other townie was on that wagon.. if there is risk to town that you dont want to take... I dont recall you emphasising that to the other townies in the game. As I understand it you didnt want to vote for geript as that might do something to you, but what I dont see is concern for what it might do to all the townies who were voting for geript. (Indeed my plan which you didnt have problem with meant nearly all the townies would have voted for geript...) How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate? | ||
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AxleGreaser
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On September 09 2013 05:14 AxleGreaser wrote: How did you grow to trust him(Shiaopi)? What did you observe, because from what I saw in the thread the mistrust you had for shiaopi just seemed to evaporate? | ||
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On September 09 2013 05:23 WaveofShadow wrote: The masoning made me trust him. Sorry for some reason I thought you were referring to Geript. Axle what do you think of Rayn? nah the geript bit was my bad . As masoning can be scum or town role. I presume you mean the things he said or asked in the mason chat. You can't quote but what in the mason chat led you to get a town read on him having had him as your strongest scum read. | ||
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On September 09 2013 05:29 WaveofShadow wrote: Constant stream of questions, genuinely being concerned when I didn't answer after a while, providing clear and honest answers/reads when I asked for them in return. He volunteered his role info (minus the KP only being usable on mason members for obvious reasons) to me despite me not having provided any reads or information to him yet. As hes a flipped townie can you tell us what his reads were? | ||
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I now this seems anti climactic. Sorry but Id be seriously incoherent if I tried to address stuff now. | ||
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I had been hoping to catch up with you too. | ||
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On September 09 2013 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: So could you provide those reads and thoughts to us too WoS? I don't see a lot from you besides your read on me. Yeah i wouldnt mind know what reads you gave shiaopi that helped shiaopi decide you were town. (as i recall you guys wer at one another before the masoning.) | ||
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Not that i remember. So they cant have been important. | ||
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On September 09 2013 10:33 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: been sleeping so I dont know what people wrote yet. However Cheese if we happen to get to point where you could safely vote for me without jeopardising the lynch would you be willing? My best estimate is that no matter your role PM says except unless its scum then it is in your best interests to do so. I will also state I think its in towns obviously.... Dear other readers, you have heard of WIFOM... this is AxleFOM... dont bother. Do note i may say nah changed my mind after you answer :) | ||
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I needed to be told pokemon was card game... (and a ...) So catching up on Pokemon if i have to google all the words will take awhile... | ||
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