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On September 02 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? Since you're around, do you have any opinion on the three players I mentioned?
Actually taking off for a bit, speaking to a friend on skype.
I'd have to read up on them, although I think their filters are quite small. I'll definitely post my thoughts on them before deadline though. From memory: risen seems town. He's playing different from GoT but he seemed pretty upset at the reactions at his opening post there, so I can see the change, and I think the change is for the better. He's not the most active but that's fine.
cakepie: lurker... right? Can't remember anything he's done
bumbum: I think his exchange with dandel seemed genuine but has he done anything since?
I'll let you know a bit later if anything changes.
What are your thoughts on zentor, kita?
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On September 02 2013 03:21 MrZentor wrote:
The point of it is to tell everybody that if geript flips scum, we need to lynch somebody in that list.
That's all.
The way you decide to do this is to write out all 7 names and call all seven "extremely suspicious". Instead of just saying "if geript flips red we should look at the people who vote felkyr"
On September 02 2013 02:33 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:20 strongandbig wrote:On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.
We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript. What about me and my completely open attempt to persuade people not to vote geript? Did you read the thread or just the votes? Why would scum try to "save" geript if they knew the votes didnt matter anyway? And isn't trying to "save" geript only scummy if he flips scum? Or do you already know that he will? Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum . So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful? I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list.
Alright, let's just buy this explanation that you didn't scumslip and you were simply talking about a scenario where geript flips scum.
How is trying to push a wagon that is not geript fine, but if it is felkyr it is extremely suspicious.
stronganbig has it right. It seems like you haven't even read the game and you just went off the votecount to paint a wide array of people scummy.
Not only did you backtrack from 100% certain geript will flip scum to "I dunno what he'll flip but if he flips scum blabla"
But then there's this:
On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
How the fuck can you be extremely suspicious of 7 people for doing the exact same thing.
Can you narrow down the list, maybe? Because you didn't actually... do anything. I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town)
This is some class A bullshit. You just explained why you don't wanna waste a bunch of time narrowing down the list, and then you immediately follow it by saying Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town. If it is obvious, why would you have to spend ANY amount of time on it?
If it is obvious, why do you call EVERYONE on that list suspicious??
I try to make him clarify:
On September 02 2013 03:06 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? You're kidding, right? Everybody knows which half it is.
Zentor is saying everybody knows which of the people on that list are likely town.
Then WHY DID YOU CALL EVERYONE ON THAT LIST EXTREMELY SUSPICIOUS.
Zentor cannot keep his story straight, which means he's not actually thinking about the game.
His posts (especially this votecount analysis without context) are designed to make it look like he's thinking about the game.
Therefore Zentor is scum.
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On September 02 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2013 02:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
If at obviously least half the people on that list are town why are do you even list them or "mark" them as suspicious. Have you not decided which half yet?????? Since you're around, do you have any opinion on the three players I mentioned? Actually taking off for a bit, speaking to a friend on skype. I'd have to read up on them, although I think their filters are quite small. I'll definitely post my thoughts on them before deadline though. From memory: risen seems town. He's playing different from GoT but he seemed pretty upset at the reactions at his opening post there, so I can see the change, and I think the change is for the better. He's not the most active but that's fine. cakepie: lurker... right? Can't remember anything he's done bumbum: I think his exchange with dandel seemed genuine but has he done anything since? I'll let you know a bit later if anything changes. What are your thoughts on zentor, kita?
Alright so after reading up.
I stand by my Risen read.
On August 31 2013 16:13 Risen wrote:
Well I don't really like Cheesecakes case on me, but that's probably just bias against someone attacking me. I don't have a problem with him misinterpreting my read statement, because as it's written that's how I would read it too. I do have a problem with him saying I'm apprehensive about my actions.
I haven't flung any shit this game. I simply pointed something out I thought the thread and WoS should be aware of. Pointing something that is anti-town out isn't flinging shit, or every single case ever made in mafia is flinging shit. So I feel justified thinking that while a town cheesecake wouldn't hyperbolize, a scum cheesecake would. His case on me feels so slimy, like he's trying to twist my words into meaning something they don't.
Feels very genuine.
Cakepie: oh right he's the one that came in with a "placeholder" vote on alakaslam.
Although when I asked for a read on oats he noticed the same things I did...
I like his vote on felkyr, I dislike his announcement of it being a pressure vote.
So yeah, definitely not a lurker, although he has a 1 page filter. Things I like, things I dislike. Null/scummy? Need to see more.
randombum: Another 1 page filter, less to go on than cakepie. I actually want this guy shot now that I've read up on him, but I doubt I could convince people to lynch him... At least cakepie was moving his vote around, trying to make stuff happen, randombum has a 1 page filter and most of it is fluff.
Kita I asked you for your opinion on zentor when I left, I still want it.
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On September 02 2013 04:43 MrZentor wrote:
I'm not always clear about my ideas, so I'm scum.
Dat logic.
It's not that you're not clear, it's that you're inconsistent. Big difference.
If you were town and you had a bunch of townreads in that list of 7 you would not call all 7 extremely suspicious.
Anyway, no need to talk to you anymore, time to die scum.
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On September 02 2013 04:54 debears wrote:
Clarity look at my post on dandel dawg
Your interpretation makes him scum but he could just as easily just be town trolling and making shit up about what he would have done in other situations. There's other stuff about him that's damning though, and you seem cool.
I like zentor > dandel. What do you think?
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On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo
Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though.
There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel.
Comment on zentor please.
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On September 02 2013 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo Shiao is up there, I disagreed with his hiro case though. There's a difference between reading flipped townies to get their insight and reading flipped townies and taking their word as gospel. Comment on zentor please. Umm....Is Zentor's idea of scum people who tried to 'save' Geript? Why am I not on his list then?
Because he did superficial vote analysis without context bro. read my case
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On September 02 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 02:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
Also notice how he's 100% certain that geript will flip scum if shot like WHAT THE FUCK. If geript flips scum zentor is next. wtf of course geript is going to flip scum it's actually 100%
Well zentor backtracked and said he doesn't know what he's gonna flip. How do you feel about that?
It's actually not 100% >.<
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On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)
Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it.
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On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)
Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it. From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town. I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed. As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point.
Isn't dandel the guy who early day 1 berated someone for not improving their play game to game?
Does anyone recall the last time dandel played scum? If so could you tell me the game please?
On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)
Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it. You sound like me in GoT. Not good.
I already explained why he's different in this game compared to GoT.
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On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?
Kita is there a reason that you don't have thoughts on zentor? I've asked for it twice now.
I mean, it's nice that you noticed he didn't post much d1 but that's not a read.
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Oh there's that one line at the end of that post that gives him a null read....
You don't follow his logic but he's not being malicious?
He called seven people extremely suspicious. You don't think that throwing dirt everywhere isn't scum indicative?
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On September 02 2013 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 05:52 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)
Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it. From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town. I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed. As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point. Isn't dandel the guy who early day 1 berated someone for not improving their play game to game? Does anyone recall the last time dandel played scum? If so could you tell me the game please? On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)
Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it. You sound like me in GoT. Not good. I already explained why he's different in this game compared to GoT. You haven't explained how me playing different to GoT makes me scum You are saying "he played differently as town in the past so he's scum now", which is terrible pseudo-usage of meta, because what you should be saying is "he played scum just like this in the past and here's where", but you can't say that because I didn't. That said, that was not even what koshi was saying.
You're trolling, but you're reaching terrible conclusions.
In GoT you were trolling but reaching decent conclusions. Like I said I find it hard to read you but you feel WAY more useless this game. Yes, I realize I can't quantify my feelings.
If it was anyone but you I would have already called you 100% scum and ignored you, but I haven't yet. How's that for use of meta?
I feel like I'm swimming heavily against the current though, which is why I asked for your latest scumgame, care to help me out?
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On September 02 2013 06:21 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 06:20 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:On September 02 2013 05:52 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)
Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it. From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town. I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed. As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point. Isn't dandel the guy who early day 1 berated someone for not improving their play game to game? Does anyone recall the last time dandel played scum? If so could you tell me the game please? On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:On September 02 2013 05:41 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)
Please can someone explain this while making sense. All these townreads on dandel I just don't get it. You sound like me in GoT. Not good. I already explained why he's different in this game compared to GoT. You haven't explained how me playing different to GoT makes me scum You are saying "he played differently as town in the past so he's scum now", which is terrible pseudo-usage of meta, because what you should be saying is "he played scum just like this in the past and here's where", but you can't say that because I didn't. That said, that was not even what koshi was saying. You're trolling, but you're reaching terrible conclusions. In GoT you were trolling but reaching decent conclusions. Like I said I find it hard to read you but you feel WAY more useless this game. Yes, I realize I can't quantify my feelings. If it was anyone but you I would have already called you 100% scum and ignored you, but I haven't yet. How's that for use of meta? I feel like I'm swimming heavily against the current though, which is why I asked for your latest scumgame, care to help me out? That's quite the coincidence, because if you are town, you are reaching the worst conclusions possible. For bad reasons too. My games are in my profile.
Well seeing as you had me on your list of scum and you just implied I'm scum, care to explain why before I change scums nk to include you?
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Yeah okay. I'm willing to concede that dandels latest two scumgames look alike and they do not look like this game. Ugh.
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On September 02 2013 09:38 debears wrote:
geript is unkillable i fear
Are you claiming a shot on him?
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On September 02 2013 09:43 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 09:38 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 09:38 debears wrote:
geript is unkillable i fear Are you claiming a shot on him? no
Why did you say geript is unkillable?
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On September 02 2013 09:48 debears wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2013 09:45 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 09:43 debears wrote:On September 02 2013 09:38 Clarity_nl wrote:On September 02 2013 09:38 debears wrote:
geript is unkillable i fear Are you claiming a shot on him? no Why did you say geript is unkillable? He apparently can switch all the votes off himself. Then, he doesn't die when he pulls such shenanigans after looking scum city. Dude is like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator
I made the reasonable assumption that it was 1shot?
He seems to have made it doublelynch today, lol.
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