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DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 19 2013 06:11 GMT
#581
I want to clarify something I brought up. I feel like Koshi misinterpreted the Xzavier lynch. The lynch is a big opportunity for scum to mislynch a townie. Using the lynch as part of your scum reads is bad. It is only remotely relevant in a case against Holy, seeing as how he was involved in the mislynch in a different way, and not at all relevant to a case against slam or myself. Either way, it is bad evidence.
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 19 2013 06:30 GMT
#582
Also of all the players Omni seems like the one who is trying to mislead town. I still have a much strong scum read on JAT though so that's who I will pressure. However, I am looking forward to debating both issues when you guys get on tomorrow.
DeusXmachina
Profile Joined November 2010
United States333 Posts
August 19 2013 07:19 GMT
#583
On August 19 2013 08:02 OmniEulogy wrote:
in fact...

[bold]##Vote: DeusXmachina[/bold]

His filter is worse than Slam's, He made the same terrible vote, and he's not playing like his standard town play as said by other people.

Unless anything massive happens in the next 48 hours the only other person I'd consider voting for right now would be Slam. I'll be going through his filter and trying to make a case on him as well but the case made by JAT is very compelling.


Sorry to overload you guys but I wanted to bring this up. JAT's case is not compelling at all. He cherry picks small mistakes that I have made and inconsistencies. So that being said, this quote by Omni is another weak reason for voting me. Furthermore he is focusing on slam because of the Xzavier lynch. I don't want to sound redundant but scum could easily use the Xzavier lynch as a way to target and mislynch a townie.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 19 2013 10:46 GMT
#584
So Deus, you don't like it if I quote you - ok. I don't like to quote such an enormous post anyways.
So here is my answer to you but first:
I thought about the whole thing since yesterday and I will admit that the lynch conclusions alone are not enough to forge a solid read on someone. I got caught up in this because your voting was really stupid even if it wasn't scum motivated. If you read what I said you know that I already mentioned it doesn't make so much sense for scum to voteswitch like that if iVLosk is town. And iVlosk is right that this is kind of an association case and that they are bad.

Still I don't really like how you responded to my case on you and I will tell you why.
Yeah, I quoted a shitton if you want so say it like that but I always explained what's scummy about it if it doesn't speak for itself like your voting pattern. You don't even adress one point of my case directly instead you are saying I am scum for pushing you? Wow, now I am impressed. Thats's the scummy way to "defend" against a case.

You are absolutely right - a townie should change his reads if there is new information but did you really do that? What happened between your vote on iVlosk and your vote on Xzavier that changed your mind and if there is nothing why did you vote for iVLosk in the first place? If you can explain your thought process through yesterday to me instead of just claiming there is no way scum would do that I would consider changing my read on you. Also please explain to me why you didn't know it was plurality lynch when it was mentioned several times before the lynch (did you read the thread at all?).
So far I see your case on me is that I am agreeing with people on things + OMGUS. Yeah, great case.

Other than that:
I am suspicious of Omni myself. He is obviously right about me but if I understand him correctly he obsed before he replaced so it is easy to know who looks townie to people and who doesn't and scum likes to give townreads. It is easy for them to give strong reads because they know who is town and who isn't.
But what really gets me thinking about him is his reasoning. He doesn't even really consider iVLosk to be scum and still insists on you or slam being scum and I don't follow that.
There still is only one alive player who I really have a considerable townread on and it's not him.

I would really like you to keep being active Day2 and to keep posting reads. If this means you have to push me - do it.
The same goes for iVLosk who didn't contribute anything for a long time now. I don't want to call him scum for not defending himself before the lynch anymore because it was very shortly before the deadline that he got voted but still several people were suspicious of him and there was always the possibility of him getting lynched earlier. I don't know what to think of him.
It really sucks that slam is afk for half of the dayphase btw.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 19 2013 11:08 GMT
#585
On August 19 2013 03:50 Holyflare wrote:
As far as my reads go, I have a lot of information from the last day that will be helpful. I will post these in a bit after I've had some time to relax.

Also I am still waiting for this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 19 2013 11:22 GMT
#586
Just writing it now, woke up not long ago.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 19 2013 11:26 GMT
#587
Splendid.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 19 2013 13:22 GMT
#588
This has to be one hell of a post...

On August 19 2013 13:18 iVLosK! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 10:51 iVLosK! wrote:
Pages 27-29 are almost exclusively filled with connection theories. And poor ones. A connection theory where the theorist doesn't know the alignment of both subjects is complete shit.

... And useless fluff used to appear contributory.

Also, apparently I'm supposed to respond to something. If you quote it, I might.

Why don't we start with some reads? Would you tell us your current scumreads and give a short reasoning for them? Or even a townread?
You didn't contribute anything since Day1 (there isn't much Day1 too) apart from trolling.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 13:42 GMT
#589
I know sorry about being gone.

I am here now gimme a bit to read.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 13:47 GMT
#590
Sigh...

The conundrum of liking both deus' & jat's dialogue for town. They are voting each other aren't they?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 19 2013 13:49 GMT
#591
Nope. Didn't vote anyone yet.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 14:36:04
August 19 2013 14:03 GMT
#592
Vote Count

DeusXmachina (1): OmniEulogy

Justanothertownie (1): DuexXmachina

Not Voteing (5): iVlosK!, Alakaslam, Justanothertownie, Holyflare, LoneMeow

Voting is mandatory. Deadline is at Tuesday, Aug 20 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) 28 Hours from now
Try TL Mafia!!!
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
August 19 2013 14:04 GMT
#593
On August 19 2013 22:42 Alakaslam wrote:
I know sorry about being gone.

I am here now gimme a bit to read.


While you're here, give me a read on Omni please?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 19 2013 14:06 GMT
#594
On August 19 2013 23:03 Onegu wrote:
Vote Count

DeusXmachina (1): OmniEulogy

Justanothertownie (1): DuexXmachina

Not Voteing (5): iVlosK!, Alakaslam, reps)squishy, Holyflare, LoneMeow

Voting is mandatory. Deadline is at Tuesday, Aug 20 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) 28 Hours from now

I'm hurt.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:08 GMT
#595
On August 19 2013 23:04 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 22:42 Alakaslam wrote:
I know sorry about being gone.

I am here now gimme a bit to read.


While you're here, give me a read on Omni please?

Ok. Reading his filter now.

Persona just started but I will still be able to check stuff out. That is why I was afg a bit, if not afk.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
August 19 2013 14:15 GMT
#596
On August 19 2013 23:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2013 23:03 Onegu wrote:
Vote Count

DeusXmachina (1): OmniEulogy

Justanothertownie (1): DuexXmachina

Not Voteing (5): iVlosK!, Alakaslam, reps)squishy, Holyflare, LoneMeow

Voting is mandatory. Deadline is at Tuesday, Aug 20 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) 28 Hours from now

I'm hurt.



Crap updateing now
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:21 GMT
#597
Well, I don't want to OMGUS but as he thinks I am second scummiest in the game I naturally think he is at least misguided, but if that's my fault for principle voteswitching I get it. Captain hindsight can work mightily in people.

Still, wish deus answered me at the time. At least he has said why since.


I want to see what OE thinks of deus upon his return.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:23 GMT
#598
Hehehe

You give me the chills for my upcoming duties Onegu
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 19 2013 14:25 GMT
#599
Now I must shower and go to work. I'll be off & on periodically.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
August 19 2013 15:24 GMT
#600
just got on the computer, read through things quickly and I'll give a more detailed answer to everything in a little bit but I've played with a lot of people who play like LosK has been doing, all of them have been town. Most of what he's said and done has largely just messed with town, and although he is my weakest town read he is still town imo.

All of the association cases against him are useless till we know Slam/Deus's alignment.

Also from what I quickly read it looks like Deus didn't actually address anything in JAT's case and tried to brush it off and then redirect suspicion at others. I'd be fine with him trying to give his scum reads if he actually tried to clear up his mess and explain his own posts.

Also Deus from how I read it, the inconsistency isn't the constantly changing reads town has, the inconsistency is you saying one thing, and then doing another immediately after with no reason behind it. Did you even care who you voted for D1? I can't tell. Also cases don't need to be long and lengthy, having a short case with a ton of incriminating posts doesn't make it weak. How about you actually talk about those posts instead.

I'm going to grab some lunch / late breakfast and then get back to the questions directed at me
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