On August 19 2013 03:04 OmniEulogy wrote:
you are mistaking me asking you questions for me making a case against you. I don't need to start quoting your filter to bring up how weird your vote was and your logic behind it. However the soft town claim bothers me quite a bit especially with how the game has played out so far.
Why I think Holy is scummy.
+ Show Spoiler +
First off we have this large post which looks impressive at first, then after reading it you realize it doesn't say a whole lot other than the first few posts of nearly everybody gives him a town vibe. This is behavior of somebody who wants to look like they are contributing without actually putting anything of worth into a very large post very early into the game when there isn't really much information to go on. Tries to get on the good side of multiple people and not disturb things too much.
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
Another scummy move is to constantly keep asking people what they think about the others and not answering or very briefly answering questions directed at yourself. This way again it looks like you are contributing when in reality it is the others doing most of the talking. Also I happen to like LosK's pointless talk as it is part of the reason I have a slight town read on him. He seems very comfortable to talk about nothing in particular which sets most scum on edge and can sometimes make him a target for others to try and attack because of it. Which you later do.
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
Not a townie vote or mindset to have. As mentioned before No-Lynch is always an option. Town does not look for the "safe" or "easy" votes.
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
Clearly you've had a problem with LosK all game, yet you continue to keep your vote on Xzavier, I can only assume it is to be "safe".
Lastly please don't soft claim town with a "I'm not going to post my thoughts at night, cause I might get NK'd!" after playing like shit and tunneling LosK for most of the day for play that I and a few others consider to be town aligned. It's bullshit.
My town reads are still JAT and LosK, I think if Koshi continues to play exactly as he has been I feel pretty comfortable calling him town as well. I think he's right with saying scum was on the Xzavier lynch.
I'm also leaning towards town on Lonemeow as I've really liked some of his posts, in particular these:
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
To me this looks like a town motivated mind set. He's actively watching what people are doing and how they are reacting to things and trying to see the town/scum reasoning behind each action.
Actually by quoting these I realize Slam also voted on Xzavier as a place holder at first. wtf. Sheep placeholder at that, scummy as hell. Add that to how much his vote jumped around and he makes me pretty nervous
I think Deus looks pretty scummy as well and also mentioned he wanted a "safe" place to put his vote. After looking through his filter carefully though I no longer think he's the scummiest out of all three.
you are mistaking me asking you questions for me making a case against you. I don't need to start quoting your filter to bring up how weird your vote was and your logic behind it. However the soft town claim bothers me quite a bit especially with how the game has played out so far.
Why I think Holy is scummy.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 03:19 Holyflare wrote:
Here's the run down so far, yeh it's early but /care
Stuffz going down:
+ Show Spoiler +
Here we have squibbles pointing out what I find to be obvious but what many of us failed to say. He didn't need to backtrack but he did because this is an important point, it isn't beating a dead horse and implies that he'd like further discussion if this arises in the future, I like this guy. Also agrees with not posting bs spam. +++++
Would like to hear more when he's back from work.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deus started a bit wishy washy but I'm assuming he is being more aprehensive over the last game where he started with full on aggression against reps.
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm liking this post, yet, it seems this game he is going all out aggressive on lurkers. Lurkers annoy me yes but he hasn't really added anything yet in terms of proper content other than elaborating his policy when asked which increases my suspicions of people that are rating him as a town player for now
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure about this lonemeow guy, he has the town mentality sure with stuff like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
however he hasn't had to talk about other people so I cannot give a good read on him whatsoever yet. If you read this lonemeow I want your full impressions on iVLosK! and Slam.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I am REALLY quizzical about are why people are riding iVLosK!'s dick so fucking hard, he implies he hate's wishy washy bull shit but has provided absolutely 0 content in his posts so far:
+ Show Spoiler +
This is his only thing that has any merit and it's a line about him agreeing with a post.... like seriously I question the people that lean town on this guy...
Stupid obvious shit 1: + Show Spoiler +
Stupid obvious shit 2: + Show Spoiler +
Stupid obvious shit 3: + Show Spoiler +
For a guy that states he hates people that talk about "stupid obvious shit" he sure is hypocritical. He's also just devolved into talking about lynching lurkers in his last post, again, no content.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Slam... is slam, but this game he's seemed to get his shit somewhat together:
+ Show Spoiler +
Confused about his town read on iVLosK obviously and mentioning me over everyone else seems a bit quizzical too as I didn't post much.
+ Show Spoiler +
I like this post but by this nature he should also assume that ivlosk is now scummy (after reading my post/his filter), he has a habit of being swayed easily by people who are expressing pro town interests which you all need to watch out for too. Obviously the game is early and you can't read too much into what he is saying so press him lots <3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JAT hasn't really added anything other than his dislike of fakeclaims, can't read into him at all so would like to hear more from him too, will push him on people when he is around.
+ Show Spoiler +
/spoiler]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will push people for reads and things if they are around when I post this
Here's the run down so far, yeh it's early but /care
Stuffz going down:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 12:03 Squibbles wrote:
Right? Odd. Backtrackin a bit for Policy, even if you wanted to lynch lurkers, liars, and those who post pointless stuff, should there be a level at which the lynch begins. For example yalls version of Lurking could be completely different from each other, where one might thinking lurking is more than 12 hours another might think a day.... We should establish some context, As far as lying, in any sense what if they are lying because they are unsure about you? Wouldnt that make you both the suspects vs just the person that lied, i think depending on the question there should be a level limit there, and those who post pointless stuff, well if you're dodging a question, you're dodging a question, enough said.
Right? Odd. Backtrackin a bit for Policy, even if you wanted to lynch lurkers, liars, and those who post pointless stuff, should there be a level at which the lynch begins. For example yalls version of Lurking could be completely different from each other, where one might thinking lurking is more than 12 hours another might think a day.... We should establish some context, As far as lying, in any sense what if they are lying because they are unsure about you? Wouldnt that make you both the suspects vs just the person that lied, i think depending on the question there should be a level limit there, and those who post pointless stuff, well if you're dodging a question, you're dodging a question, enough said.
Here we have squibbles pointing out what I find to be obvious but what many of us failed to say. He didn't need to backtrack but he did because this is an important point, it isn't beating a dead horse and implies that he'd like further discussion if this arises in the future, I like this guy. Also agrees with not posting bs spam. +++++
Would like to hear more when he's back from work.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deus started a bit wishy washy but I'm assuming he is being more aprehensive over the last game where he started with full on aggression against reps.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 05:14 DeusXmachina wrote:
If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.
I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.
Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.
If you have a weak scum read on someone and they lie, well that might be evidence against them. I would try to understand the intentions behind the lie. Not crazy about the lynch liars policy.
I don't know how to define lurking, but people who are being useless are equally as bad as lurkers. In fact, in some situations, I think spammers can be more detrimental to town than lurkers. I equate non-contribution to scum. I am glad you brought this up. I was thinking about this a lot in my last game.
Well this is a newb game. Hopefully players can read some of the initial policy and learn what not to do. Lynching people who say stupid stuff got me into a lot of shit my last game. That being said, I am all for aggressive play and doing whatever it takes to weed out scum.
I'm liking this post, yet, it seems this game he is going all out aggressive on lurkers. Lurkers annoy me yes but he hasn't really added anything yet in terms of proper content other than elaborating his policy when asked which increases my suspicions of people that are rating him as a town player for now
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure about this lonemeow guy, he has the town mentality sure with stuff like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 15:26 LoneMeow wrote:
Okay, I see your track record on figuring out first posts isn't exactly stellar :D
I want to see people talk about each other, because that makes the game much easier to figure out. I consider his first post pretty much null from a completely new player.
On that matter, my reads so far: slightly town on DeusXmachina and Alakaslam, null on the rest.
Okay, I see your track record on figuring out first posts isn't exactly stellar :D
I want to see people talk about each other, because that makes the game much easier to figure out. I consider his first post pretty much null from a completely new player.
On that matter, my reads so far: slightly town on DeusXmachina and Alakaslam, null on the rest.
however he hasn't had to talk about other people so I cannot give a good read on him whatsoever yet. If you read this lonemeow I want your full impressions on iVLosK! and Slam.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I am REALLY quizzical about are why people are riding iVLosK!'s dick so fucking hard, he implies he hate's wishy washy bull shit but has provided absolutely 0 content in his posts so far:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 01:20 iVLosK! wrote:
No, past iVlosK!. Not yet. But soon... very soon.
This is Squibbles only game post but I like the content on multiple points.
I spare thee, and await further posts.
No, past iVlosK!. Not yet. But soon... very soon.
This is Squibbles only game post but I like the content on multiple points.
I spare thee, and await further posts.
This is his only thing that has any merit and it's a line about him agreeing with a post.... like seriously I question the people that lean town on this guy...
Stupid obvious shit 1: + Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 07:41 iVLosK! wrote:
I would argue that the rap was very aggressive. Krizz Kaliko does not fuck around.
I would argue that the rap was very aggressive. Krizz Kaliko does not fuck around.
Stupid obvious shit 2: + Show Spoiler +
Stupid obvious shit 3: + Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 01:27 iVLosK! wrote:
Anyway, if Xzavier and reps haven't done anything meaningful by the time the Chiefs game ends tonight, I will lower the boom on whichever I deem most worthy.
Anyway, if Xzavier and reps haven't done anything meaningful by the time the Chiefs game ends tonight, I will lower the boom on whichever I deem most worthy.
For a guy that states he hates people that talk about "stupid obvious shit" he sure is hypocritical. He's also just devolved into talking about lynching lurkers in his last post, again, no content.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Slam... is slam, but this game he's seemed to get his shit somewhat together:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 12:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Actually it was lynching the spammer- many of the things I said were trying to express my opinions, spamming was me trying to dick around. I promise not to do that anymore except maybe in spoilers if I can't help it.
Therefore I am really glad you laid this out. There may be people like me who just get the juices flowing and go nuts, they will disregard you until they are the scummy one tunneling the wrong guy at Lylo- then they will have to fight not to become stimaddict 2.0, (sorry bout that but u know its true ing one) so like I say- rock and a hard place with "don't spam don't lurk" for me- so gimme a little grace and I will try to help out. For now, I have this:
Ivlosk! - town, he is bamcis for lookin so, especially so early, therefore keep an eye out for even more badass scum play later if I am wrong (and I am wrong often...)
HolyFlare- kinda early. I'm null, in fact, I'm null on everyone but ivlosk! and myself. It's pretty early guys.
"Speak up!" -Seige Tank Driver (selected, Starcraft 2)
Fellows, pleeeze!!
Actually it was lynching the spammer- many of the things I said were trying to express my opinions, spamming was me trying to dick around. I promise not to do that anymore except maybe in spoilers if I can't help it.
Therefore I am really glad you laid this out. There may be people like me who just get the juices flowing and go nuts, they will disregard you until they are the scummy one tunneling the wrong guy at Lylo- then they will have to fight not to become stimaddict 2.0, (sorry bout that but u know its true ing one) so like I say- rock and a hard place with "don't spam don't lurk" for me- so gimme a little grace and I will try to help out. For now, I have this:
Ivlosk! - town, he is bamcis for lookin so, especially so early, therefore keep an eye out for even more badass scum play later if I am wrong (and I am wrong often...)
HolyFlare- kinda early. I'm null, in fact, I'm null on everyone but ivlosk! and myself. It's pretty early guys.
"Speak up!" -Seige Tank Driver (selected, Starcraft 2)
Fellows, pleeeze!!
Confused about his town read on iVLosK obviously and mentioning me over everyone else seems a bit quizzical too as I didn't post much.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 14:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Careful of posting pseudo lurker lists... Look. That is the easies thing for scum to do to try and look town, 1, and 2, if we have vigs, they can shoot into lurkers and we lynch other lurkers till there are none. So it is established that you can't lurk and get by this game. Stating their scumminess other than to explain a vote on them is now irrelevant, lets stick to discussion about actives. Then, before the deadline (close as you can get) vote for a lurker or someone you find scummy- who may have more of a chance turning out to be scum than someone who wanted blue or irl'ed or whatever causes people to do this stuff.
Careful of posting pseudo lurker lists... Look. That is the easies thing for scum to do to try and look town, 1, and 2, if we have vigs, they can shoot into lurkers and we lynch other lurkers till there are none. So it is established that you can't lurk and get by this game. Stating their scumminess other than to explain a vote on them is now irrelevant, lets stick to discussion about actives. Then, before the deadline (close as you can get) vote for a lurker or someone you find scummy- who may have more of a chance turning out to be scum than someone who wanted blue or irl'ed or whatever causes people to do this stuff.
I like this post but by this nature he should also assume that ivlosk is now scummy (after reading my post/his filter), he has a habit of being swayed easily by people who are expressing pro town interests which you all need to watch out for too. Obviously the game is early and you can't read too much into what he is saying so press him lots <3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
JAT hasn't really added anything other than his dislike of fakeclaims, can't read into him at all so would like to hear more from him too, will push him on people when he is around.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Not really. I didn't like some posts from Deus and the first one of Squibbles that much but this won't tell me anything. I'm just not a fan of this rather pointless policy discussions. People can talk alot about these things without adding any useful content.
I won't read to much into early contentless posts though. Bad experience last game.
Not really. I didn't like some posts from Deus and the first one of Squibbles that much but this won't tell me anything. I'm just not a fan of this rather pointless policy discussions. People can talk alot about these things without adding any useful content.
I won't read to much into early contentless posts though. Bad experience last game.
/spoiler]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I will push people for reads and things if they are around when I post this
First off we have this large post which looks impressive at first, then after reading it you realize it doesn't say a whole lot other than the first few posts of nearly everybody gives him a town vibe. This is behavior of somebody who wants to look like they are contributing without actually putting anything of worth into a very large post very early into the game when there isn't really much information to go on. Tries to get on the good side of multiple people and not disturb things too much.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
JAT what is your opinion so far on ivlosk and also I'd like to hear your thoughts on lonemeow
JAT what is your opinion so far on ivlosk and also I'd like to hear your thoughts on lonemeow
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
So you liked his rap and pointless posts about being a zergling? Ok sounds reasonable....... Oh wait not really, i want you to filter dive like i have done and specifically point out what it is you like and why
It is irrelevant for now why i picked these 2 people
Slam if you are still here what are your thoughts on deus and JAT?
So you liked his rap and pointless posts about being a zergling? Ok sounds reasonable....... Oh wait not really, i want you to filter dive like i have done and specifically point out what it is you like and why
It is irrelevant for now why i picked these 2 people
Slam if you are still here what are your thoughts on deus and JAT?
Another scummy move is to constantly keep asking people what they think about the others and not answering or very briefly answering questions directed at yourself. This way again it looks like you are contributing when in reality it is the others doing most of the talking. Also I happen to like LosK's pointless talk as it is part of the reason I have a slight town read on him. He seems very comfortable to talk about nothing in particular which sets most scum on edge and can sometimes make him a target for others to try and attack because of it. Which you later do.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 08:42 Holyflare wrote:
I like you drawing attention to this, oh it's scummy to avoid lurkers but then say you want to do the anti lurker thing, seriously? I mean what the hell i don't know if you two are trying to set me up but until the lurkers actually do something talking about them is 100% anti town by way of wasting time. Of course we will lynch lurkers if nobody is under any real suspicion do not be stupid.
I like you drawing attention to this, oh it's scummy to avoid lurkers but then say you want to do the anti lurker thing, seriously? I mean what the hell i don't know if you two are trying to set me up but until the lurkers actually do something talking about them is 100% anti town by way of wasting time. Of course we will lynch lurkers if nobody is under any real suspicion do not be stupid.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 21:26 Holyflare wrote:
##Vote xzavier for now as a placeholder until something more obvious comes forward
##Vote xzavier for now as a placeholder until something more obvious comes forward
Not a townie vote or mindset to have. As mentioned before No-Lynch is always an option. Town does not look for the "safe" or "easy" votes.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 23:48 Holyflare wrote:
If he posts at 6.59 he will not be modkilled, hence the placeholder vote, it can be moved anytime I feel like it onto someone more suspicious. It is also madatory to vote for someone otherwise you will also probably be warned/modkilled, if I was to suddenly become inundated with things to do later at least my vote would be on a worthy person. It is more suspicious that people have not voted at all with only 3 hours left to go. This is also a plurality lynch meaning that the person with the most votes, not majority will be voted off. Do you really want to vote off the guy that has at least said something rather than the person that has said nothing?
If he posts at 6.59 he will not be modkilled, hence the placeholder vote, it can be moved anytime I feel like it onto someone more suspicious. It is also madatory to vote for someone otherwise you will also probably be warned/modkilled, if I was to suddenly become inundated with things to do later at least my vote would be on a worthy person. It is more suspicious that people have not voted at all with only 3 hours left to go. This is also a plurality lynch meaning that the person with the most votes, not majority will be voted off. Do you really want to vote off the guy that has at least said something rather than the person that has said nothing?
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 18 2013 00:17 Holyflare wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Wasn't this the post where you said you were using it to build a 'case'? You agreed with JAT that relying on modkills would be bad so why have you gone 180 on squibbles when you originally liked his first post? (here: + Show Spoiler +
) Surely it is better to vote off the lurker and hear from squibbles tomorrow in case something legitimately came up and then we can vote squibbles tomorrow if it is unsatisfactory.
+ Show Spoiler +
You do NOT want to accidently vote off a town member if they have contributed, even 1 or 2 posts, compared to somebody who has done none for now.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I honestly do not understand how people can think you are acting town when you flip flop all over the place on almost every post you make:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nothing has been noted in your posts since then that implies you'd even think about modkills or squibbles voting, you just seem to be bandwagoning with no valid reason for the easy lynch.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 08:04 iVLosK! wrote:
D' Oh.
I think this is the post JAT is referencing above. I noticed it too.
D' Oh.
I think this is the post JAT is referencing above. I noticed it too.
Wasn't this the post where you said you were using it to build a 'case'? You agreed with JAT that relying on modkills would be bad so why have you gone 180 on squibbles when you originally liked his first post? (here: + Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 01:20 iVLosK! wrote:
No, past iVlosK!. Not yet. But soon... very soon.
This is Squibbles only game post but I like the content on multiple points.
I spare thee, and await further posts.
No, past iVlosK!. Not yet. But soon... very soon.
This is Squibbles only game post but I like the content on multiple points.
I spare thee, and await further posts.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 23:55 iVLosK! wrote:
A last second vote from Xzavier would be tantamount to admitting he is scum. If he does, we just lynch him D2. I would much prefer to allow him to be modkilled and we can see what his replacement has to say.
I much prefer reps or sqibbles for the lynch and will vote squibbles because multiple players have stated that reps is always like this.
##Vote: Squibbles
A last second vote from Xzavier would be tantamount to admitting he is scum. If he does, we just lynch him D2. I would much prefer to allow him to be modkilled and we can see what his replacement has to say.
I much prefer reps or sqibbles for the lynch and will vote squibbles because multiple players have stated that reps is always like this.
##Vote: Squibbles
You do NOT want to accidently vote off a town member if they have contributed, even 1 or 2 posts, compared to somebody who has done none for now.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
I honestly do not understand how people can think you are acting town when you flip flop all over the place on almost every post you make:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 01:27 iVLosK! wrote:
Anyway, if Xzavier and reps haven't done anything meaningful by the time the Chiefs game ends tonight, I will lower the boom on whichever I deem most worthy.
Anyway, if Xzavier and reps haven't done anything meaningful by the time the Chiefs game ends tonight, I will lower the boom on whichever I deem most worthy.
Nothing has been noted in your posts since then that implies you'd even think about modkills or squibbles voting, you just seem to be bandwagoning with no valid reason for the easy lynch.
Clearly you've had a problem with LosK all game, yet you continue to keep your vote on Xzavier, I can only assume it is to be "safe".
Lastly please don't soft claim town with a "I'm not going to post my thoughts at night, cause I might get NK'd!" after playing like shit and tunneling LosK for most of the day for play that I and a few others consider to be town aligned. It's bullshit.
My town reads are still JAT and LosK, I think if Koshi continues to play exactly as he has been I feel pretty comfortable calling him town as well. I think he's right with saying scum was on the Xzavier lynch.
I'm also leaning towards town on Lonemeow as I've really liked some of his posts, in particular these:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 17:53 LoneMeow wrote:
So do you think he's scum? Why so non-committal? Your filter is worrying, low activity and I get a feel that you're just trying to find a target to latch on rather than trying to find scum.
So do you think he's scum? Why so non-committal? Your filter is worrying, low activity and I get a feel that you're just trying to find a target to latch on rather than trying to find scum.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 18 2013 01:29 LoneMeow wrote:
When I dropped my vote on Squibbles I was fully expecting him to speak up before the deadline as he had said he's reading the thread during EU daytime. Now that it looks like he might be modkilled/replaced just like Xzavier I'm fully prepared to switch.
I'm fully prepared to switch to iVLosK! - as I've stated he seems to be suspiciously timid compared to his style in XLII and the point about not bringing much content that Holyflare brings up has merit.
Also, now that you're here, can I have a few reads from you?
When I dropped my vote on Squibbles I was fully expecting him to speak up before the deadline as he had said he's reading the thread during EU daytime. Now that it looks like he might be modkilled/replaced just like Xzavier I'm fully prepared to switch.
I'm fully prepared to switch to iVLosK! - as I've stated he seems to be suspiciously timid compared to his style in XLII and the point about not bringing much content that Holyflare brings up has merit.
Also, now that you're here, can I have a few reads from you?
To me this looks like a town motivated mind set. He's actively watching what people are doing and how they are reacting to things and trying to see the town/scum reasoning behind each action.
Actually by quoting these I realize Slam also voted on Xzavier as a place holder at first. wtf. Sheep placeholder at that, scummy as hell. Add that to how much his vote jumped around and he makes me pretty nervous
I think Deus looks pretty scummy as well and also mentioned he wanted a "safe" place to put his vote. After looking through his filter carefully though I no longer think he's the scummiest out of all three.
Not really sure where to begin with this, but here we go.
First off we have this large post which looks impressive at first, then after reading it you realize it doesn't say a whole lot other than the first few posts of nearly everybody gives him a town vibe. This is behavior of somebody who wants to look like they are contributing without actually putting anything of worth into a very large post very early into the game when there isn't really much information to go on. Tries to get on the good side of multiple people and not disturb things too much.
Firstly, this was right at the start of the day, not much information to go off but I wasn't around before and it is a hell of a lot more contribution than people had been doing previously, I was pointing out what people were doing differently from last game, what I liked so far and what the fuck people were thinking about iVLosK! with so much bs floating around. The top that was being talked about was peoples views on lynching lurkers and it got us nowhere, this actually got us off that stale topic and got people talking, more than anyone had done so far.
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
Another scummy move is to constantly keep asking people what they think about the others and not answering or very briefly answering questions directed at yourself. This way again it looks like you are contributing when in reality it is the others doing most of the talking. Also I happen to like LosK's pointless talk as it is part of the reason I have a slight town read on him. He seems very comfortable to talk about nothing in particular which sets most scum on edge and can sometimes make him a target for others to try and attack because of it. Which you later do.
On August 17 2013 07:02 Holyflare wrote:
JAT what is your opinion so far on ivlosk and also I'd like to hear your thoughts on lonemeow
JAT what is your opinion so far on ivlosk and also I'd like to hear your thoughts on lonemeow
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 17 2013 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
So you liked his rap and pointless posts about being a zergling? Ok sounds reasonable....... Oh wait not really, i want you to filter dive like i have done and specifically point out what it is you like and why
It is irrelevant for now why i picked these 2 people
Slam if you are still here what are your thoughts on deus and JAT?
So you liked his rap and pointless posts about being a zergling? Ok sounds reasonable....... Oh wait not really, i want you to filter dive like i have done and specifically point out what it is you like and why
It is irrelevant for now why i picked these 2 people
Slam if you are still here what are your thoughts on deus and JAT?
Another scummy move is to constantly keep asking people what they think about the others and not answering or very briefly answering questions directed at yourself. This way again it looks like you are contributing when in reality it is the others doing most of the talking. Also I happen to like LosK's pointless talk as it is part of the reason I have a slight town read on him. He seems very comfortable to talk about nothing in particular which sets most scum on edge and can sometimes make him a target for others to try and attack because of it. Which you later do.
You are taking all of my posts out of context, I would have asked these questions within my bigger post and then it would have seemed more reasonable, possibly to you, but maybe those people would ignore it. I wanted to see who was around before I asked the questions in the first place. I asked for 2 different people to give me their reads because I had a plan set around it to retrieve more information, so I asked people to give me reads on a person I thought was scum and a person I thought was town to see their responses.
As for IVLosK I cannot comprehend what gives you a town read on actions like that. He contributes nothing, when pressured adds nothing in his defence and was going to be lynched off with nothing valuable to save his life. What speaks town for you there? A townie should want to do everything he can to stay alive but no, nothing like that happened.
As far as the Xzavier vote goes, it is NEVER a good idea to no-lynch on the first day. EVER. Like how does that even make sense for you to say? It's practically a free night for scum to do what they want, at least with A lynch we have a 2/9 chance to hit a scum, especially with a no poster who may vote last second. I would have switched my vote to iVLosK quite happily if I was around at the time, but read into it what you will I'd rather celebrate my girlfriends birthday than tell her I have to pop out to switch my vote on mafia.
As far as my reads go, I have a lot of information from the last day that will be helpful. I will post these in a bit after I've had some time to relax.