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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 08:19 GMT
#1961
On September 23 2013 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 16:55 Koshi wrote:
On September 23 2013 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 23 2013 16:22 Mocsta wrote:
I would think kush should be replaced with VA on that list.


Read kush's filter and then read Stutters case on kush. Then think of the last two games of his where he clearly gave a shit enough to be night killed. Then come back and tell me Kush is giving a shit this game. If you can do that then I can re think kush. Up until that point I think kush is likely to be scum.

He actually got misslynched last game (golden sun), while he came off a very good town game in Persona. Dnu about Kush tbh. Wouldn't shoot him.


Oh ok. But yeah. He has the ability to give a shit about the game and this game he clearly doesn't.

So many games that he doesn't give shit while town though, especially in big games. GoT comes to mind. Don't know if it is the best shot D1.

Also, better hit scum than to do crapshoots. I don't know how many docs we have, but if 3 nk keep happenening then we don't have too many misslynches.
What about holding vigi shots till N2? FT is the only one I want to see shot tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 08:20 GMT
#1962
On September 23 2013 17:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents.

DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine.

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk


This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that?

There is a giant mark on your head. Try to be as useful as possible please. You said you read all filters multiple times, try to give some reads. Townreads, nullreads, things that you think are suspicious.
Anything. Feel free to spam everything that comes to mind.
I had a good night of sleep.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
September 23 2013 08:35 GMT
#1963
On September 23 2013 17:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 17:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents.

DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine.

On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk


This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that?

There is a giant mark on your head. Try to be as useful as possible please. You said you read all filters multiple times, try to give some reads. Townreads, nullreads, things that you think are suspicious.
Anything. Feel free to spam everything that comes to mind.


Typing with one hand I manage about 5-6 WPM (instead of the usual 70+, it's quite frustrating really...) so I won't be able to spam even if I try, but I'll try to find something once I'm done with my Scala assignments.

Anyone in particular I should look into first?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 08:41 GMT
#1964
that's not how it works lone.

if ur hand is rooted, then type names at least now. content later
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 08:43 GMT
#1965
On September 23 2013 17:35 LoneMeow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 17:20 Koshi wrote:
On September 23 2013 17:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents.

DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine.

On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk


This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that?

There is a giant mark on your head. Try to be as useful as possible please. You said you read all filters multiple times, try to give some reads. Townreads, nullreads, things that you think are suspicious.
Anything. Feel free to spam everything that comes to mind.


Typing with one hand I manage about 5-6 WPM (instead of the usual 70+, it's quite frustrating really...) so I won't be able to spam even if I try, but I'll try to find something once I'm done with my Scala assignments.

Anyone in particular I should look into first?

Nha. If you have more problems with typing then try to read a lot.
Mocsta, rayn, Cheesecake, VE seem like interesting people to keep a close eye on.
Firmtofu, Risen, Kush, Sentinel are never going to get killed by scum most likely. Try to read their filter and get a scummotivation behind any of their posting. Or give townreads and tell us why they should not get lynched.
Then there is Coag and OO that I don't want to touch. Imho those 2 are pretty decent vigi targets as well.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 08:44 GMT
#1966
On September 23 2013 17:06 LoneMeow wrote:
Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents.

DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine.

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk


This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that?
I take issue with this town read injection.

the timing stinks, and the justification is so situational.

dp has been a prominent figure throughout the game. how can this be your sole reasoning for a read.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 08:45 GMT
#1967
koshi.

how the fudge can u still be doubting.


man up and interrogate me.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 08:48 GMT
#1968
On September 23 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:
koshi.

how the fudge can u still be doubting.

man up and interrogate me.

Dunno why you buddy up with rayn so much. The guy can't make 2 posts without naming me once. It's truly dumb.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 08:51 GMT
#1969
On September 23 2013 11:48 Chairman Ray wrote:
Well, here's my goodbye post.

I suck so bad at mafia. This is kinda discouraging . Looks like I'm gonna be needing quite a bit of coaching post game. My plan was basically to seem a bit nooby/scummy at the start and avoid giving too much reads, but I played it terribly and became actually nooby and scummy near the end, and didn't have any reads prepped when I needed them. Was planning on revealing my blue as a last resort, but time kicked in and I didn't get a chance to count the votes. Sorry guys! I'm a terrible blue player .


fuck me why would you EVER try to play like this.

less said about the hosting the better tbh
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 08:53 GMT
#1970
On September 23 2013 17:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:
koshi.

how the fudge can u still be doubting.

man up and interrogate me.

Dunno why you buddy up with rayn so much. The guy can't make 2 posts without naming me once. It's truly dumb.

I don't think I have buddied rayn, because neither of us have gone out of our way to work with each other.

I freely admit he is a town read. in fact, he is my strongest town read. dare I say, confirmed town.


is this why u voted me... an omgus via rayn?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 08:54 GMT
#1971
On September 23 2013 17:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 11:48 Chairman Ray wrote:
Well, here's my goodbye post.

I suck so bad at mafia. This is kinda discouraging . Looks like I'm gonna be needing quite a bit of coaching post game. My plan was basically to seem a bit nooby/scummy at the start and avoid giving too much reads, but I played it terribly and became actually nooby and scummy near the end, and didn't have any reads prepped when I needed them. Was planning on revealing my blue as a last resort, but time kicked in and I didn't get a chance to count the votes. Sorry guys! I'm a terrible blue player .


fuck me why would you EVER try to play like this.

less said about the hosting the better tbh

actually... if u re read his second post, he crumbed his cop role.

it was so blatant, I never took it as a crumb.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 09:02 GMT
#1972
BTW koshi.

at a micro level, I think rayn hasn't been satisfied with you...BECAUSE he holds your expected level of play to a higher degree than the rest of us.

a lot of his points are based on knowing you can be better, in my opinion.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 23 2013 09:04 GMT
#1973
I don't give a crap what he crumbed. What goes through someone's mind when they're a total noob to purposefully play scummy?

To avoid the nightkill they're going to obviously draw in their grand noobiness?

Also, could the vigilante please kill Risen? He's playing like a cunt, he's ruining the game by signing up and not playing. What kind of cunt purposefully tries to ruin the games of others? Fuck off and don't sign up if you're not going to play.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 09:07 GMT
#1974
Marv.. I detect issues between u and risen in the scum qt, no?
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 23 2013 09:15 GMT
#1975
Mocsta is this some kind of "be a jackass to draw attention to myself because scum wouldn't do that" type of thing? Be honest.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 09:16 GMT
#1976
On September 23 2013 17:53 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 17:48 Koshi wrote:
On September 23 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:
koshi.

how the fudge can u still be doubting.

man up and interrogate me.

Dunno why you buddy up with rayn so much. The guy can't make 2 posts without naming me once. It's truly dumb.

I don't think I have buddied rayn, because neither of us have gone out of our way to work with each other.

I freely admit he is a town read. in fact, he is my strongest town read. dare I say, confirmed town.


is this why u voted me... an omgus via rayn?

Ofc not? I voted you way before rayn was in the picture lol?
But you have been buddying rayn.
And how the fuck can he be your strongest townread? The guy literally has done nothing but push me, and not close as agressive as he does when he is really certain about people being mafia. But he must be pretty sure because he does nothing else at all.

Read Persona, rayn filter from page 6 to 11 or something.
Agressive like fuck towards WoS.
Thinks people are scum for not believing him (Mr Snowman)
While being certain about WoS starts making cases and interrogating Snowman.
Gives away townreads.
Keeps hammering on why WoS is scum. Reasons are actually pretty good. Not the meta bullshit he is feeding you guys about me. Or the total shit he says about my vote on VA.

Things like he is voting CR while CR is voting for me and I am voting for CR DOES NOT MAKE SENSE when I am scum. rayn knows I am not bussing anybody as scum, I even have a very hard time interacting with my fellow scumfellows. Well, I had in GoT which was my last scumgame which rayn loves to meta me on.
So if rayn is certain I am scum, then he would never vote for people like Chairman Ray, or even FT. Or if he would, he would say something about it, he cant stfu about me, so he isn't going to mention this when voting for CR or FT? Fucking bullshit. But he doesn't say shit about it. He gives some silly reasons why he is not voting FT and why he is voting CR. Perfectly in line with his reads he gave me when I asked for his other scumreads.

And no. Rayn shouldn't be a total bitch because I am not spamming up the thread and be my "beacon of townyness" that I might be sometimes in a fucking mini. In Persona I had my SAM claim, and in Golden Sun, rayn was quite suspicious of me early on as well. So dnu.

So wtf did rayn think I could have done differently with limited time? I have no strong reads on this game yet. compared to rayn his 1 read that is totally fucking shit, and he spammed that read 70 times now. While making 1 silly case, containing 3 points, 1 was total shit, 1 is pure meta, and then he is mad that I voted Mocsta? Fuck that. Mocsta can be scum, and read that first page with the colors and the seal and w.e. Shit aint that great. And guess what? Rayn hasn't got a townread on Mocsta or VA, 2 people I targetted, so why are my votes bad? They aren't.

Nha. rayn is shit. We will see if he is scum or town. But having a townread on rayn for this utter crap is shit. Mocsta the only reason why you would think rayn is town for all this silly pushing on me is because you are scum. The guy has done nothing else. Unless you got a giant scumread on me and you agree with rayn. But you don't.
Also, Mocsta, you are far worse than when you replaced into games. Less strong reads. In Sicilian you helped me find Kush as last scum. In GoT you nailed 3/4 scums after your initial reads. Now there is nothing that makes me think, hey this Mocsta is a total boss.

/end rant
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 09:18 GMT
#1977
Yeah, shoot rayn.

OO
Risen
Coag
rayn
Firmtofu

Those are good vigi targets.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
September 23 2013 09:18 GMT
#1978
final answer.
I had a good night of sleep.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 23 2013 09:22 GMT
#1979
On September 23 2013 18:18 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, shoot rayn.

OO
Risen
Coag
rayn
Firmtofu

Those are good vigi targets.

Its staggeringly easy to know when I'm scum. All you have to do is look at a couple previous games. I mean if you don't actually care whether or not I'm scum, by all means put me on your little list. But maybe, hey for giggles, look at two scum games and two town games of mine (they're in my profile) before you go telling people to shoot me.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
September 23 2013 09:24 GMT
#1980
actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push.

that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum.

I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in.


when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread.
being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up.

if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game.
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