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On September 23 2013 17:35 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 17:20 Koshi wrote:On September 23 2013 17:06 LoneMeow wrote:Here now and hopefully a bit more coherent with less pain and so. Sorry about ruining the game. Also, I don't get to choose when I have to leave as long as I am staying with my parents. DP is town I think, his anger at the hosting messup seems genuine. On September 22 2013 08:12 Umasi wrote:
##unvote
useless to stay on lonemeow if he's not gonna be around :|
/afk This is why I wanted to vote Umasi, it just makes no sense from town perspective. It really looks like he was just trying to see if that'd gain any traction and let it go when it looked like it would not. Why would town do that? There is a giant mark on your head. Try to be as useful as possible please. You said you read all filters multiple times, try to give some reads. Townreads, nullreads, things that you think are suspicious. Anything. Feel free to spam everything that comes to mind. Typing with one hand I manage about 5-6 WPM (instead of the usual 70+, it's quite frustrating really...) so I won't be able to spam even if I try, but I'll try to find something once I'm done with my Scala assignments. Anyone in particular I should look into first?
Nha. If you have more problems with typing then try to read a lot.
Mocsta, rayn, Cheesecake, VE seem like interesting people to keep a close eye on.
Firmtofu, Risen, Kush, Sentinel are never going to get killed by scum most likely. Try to read their filter and get a scummotivation behind any of their posting. Or give townreads and tell us why they should not get lynched.
Then there is Coag and OO that I don't want to touch. Imho those 2 are pretty decent vigi targets as well.
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On September 23 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:
koshi.
how the fudge can u still be doubting.
man up and interrogate me.
Dunno why you buddy up with rayn so much. The guy can't make 2 posts without naming me once. It's truly dumb.
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On September 23 2013 17:53 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 17:48 Koshi wrote:On September 23 2013 17:45 Mocsta wrote:
koshi.
how the fudge can u still be doubting.
man up and interrogate me. Dunno why you buddy up with rayn so much. The guy can't make 2 posts without naming me once. It's truly dumb. I don't think I have buddied rayn, because neither of us have gone out of our way to work with each other. I freely admit he is a town read. in fact, he is my strongest town read. dare I say, confirmed town. is this why u voted me... an omgus via rayn?
Ofc not? I voted you way before rayn was in the picture lol?
But you have been buddying rayn.
And how the fuck can he be your strongest townread? The guy literally has done nothing but push me, and not close as agressive as he does when he is really certain about people being mafia. But he must be pretty sure because he does nothing else at all.
Read Persona, rayn filter from page 6 to 11 or something.
Agressive like fuck towards WoS.
Thinks people are scum for not believing him (Mr Snowman)
While being certain about WoS starts making cases and interrogating Snowman.
Gives away townreads.
Keeps hammering on why WoS is scum. Reasons are actually pretty good. Not the meta bullshit he is feeding you guys about me. Or the total shit he says about my vote on VA.
Things like he is voting CR while CR is voting for me and I am voting for CR DOES NOT MAKE SENSE when I am scum. rayn knows I am not bussing anybody as scum, I even have a very hard time interacting with my fellow scumfellows. Well, I had in GoT which was my last scumgame which rayn loves to meta me on.
So if rayn is certain I am scum, then he would never vote for people like Chairman Ray, or even FT. Or if he would, he would say something about it, he cant stfu about me, so he isn't going to mention this when voting for CR or FT? Fucking bullshit. But he doesn't say shit about it. He gives some silly reasons why he is not voting FT and why he is voting CR. Perfectly in line with his reads he gave me when I asked for his other scumreads.
And no. Rayn shouldn't be a total bitch because I am not spamming up the thread and be my "beacon of townyness" that I might be sometimes in a fucking mini. In Persona I had my SAM claim, and in Golden Sun, rayn was quite suspicious of me early on as well. So dnu.
So wtf did rayn think I could have done differently with limited time? I have no strong reads on this game yet. compared to rayn his 1 read that is totally fucking shit, and he spammed that read 70 times now. While making 1 silly case, containing 3 points, 1 was total shit, 1 is pure meta, and then he is mad that I voted Mocsta? Fuck that. Mocsta can be scum, and read that first page with the colors and the seal and w.e. Shit aint that great. And guess what? Rayn hasn't got a townread on Mocsta or VA, 2 people I targetted, so why are my votes bad? They aren't.
Nha. rayn is shit. We will see if he is scum or town. But having a townread on rayn for this utter crap is shit. Mocsta the only reason why you would think rayn is town for all this silly pushing on me is because you are scum. The guy has done nothing else. Unless you got a giant scumread on me and you agree with rayn. But you don't.
Also, Mocsta, you are far worse than when you replaced into games. Less strong reads. In Sicilian you helped me find Kush as last scum. In GoT you nailed 3/4 scums after your initial reads. Now there is nothing that makes me think, hey this Mocsta is a total boss.
/end rant
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Yeah, shoot rayn.
OO
Risen
Coag
rayn
Firmtofu
Those are good vigi targets.
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Here is a list of people you should doc.
Yamato (If he dies N1 I am going to be very mad)
DP
Geript
People you shouldn't doc
All the rest
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On September 23 2013 18:22 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:18 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, shoot rayn.
OO
Risen
Coag
rayn
Firmtofu
Those are good vigi targets. Its staggeringly easy to know when I'm scum. All you have to do is look at a couple previous games. I mean if you don't actually care whether or not I'm scum, by all means put me on your little list. But maybe, hey for giggles, look at two scum games and two town games of mine (they're in my profile) before you go telling people to shoot me.
Vigis do what he says. I didn't look into you.
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On September 23 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote:
actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push.
that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum.
I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in.
when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread.
being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up.
if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game.
Dont understand why you think that rayn is 100% town if his 70 post towards me are total null. People like yamato, those are 100% town.
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On September 23 2013 18:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:18 Koshi wrote:
Yeah, shoot rayn.
OO
Risen
Coag
rayn
Firmtofu
Those are good vigi targets. By and large these vigi targets are shocking, as are at least one of your doc protect targets. You should be ignored.
Nope my doc list is very good. Really happy about it.
Vigi list is maybe a bit opportunistic with OO and coag on it. But I have no meta on them and their filter is terrible.
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On September 23 2013 18:37 marvellosity wrote:
I pray to god a player like Koshi doesn't roll doc if he advocates medicing geript over me, for example.
Nha, I am a bit torn about you but meh, CC and marv fell off my doc list.
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On September 23 2013 18:38 marvellosity wrote:
You don't doc people because you think they're really town, Koshi. You doc assetts.
Ahyeah true. Ok, remove geript.
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On September 23 2013 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:34 Koshi wrote:On September 23 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote:
actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push.
that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum.
I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in.
when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread.
being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up.
if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game. Dont understand why you think that rayn is 100% town if his 70 post towards me are total null. People like yamato, those are 100% town. Yamato is not 100% anything.
100% town. His last scumgames compared to this. 100% town.
The only reason he might be scum is because he found new love in rolling scum because he played voice mafia with you guys or something in those lines.
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On September 23 2013 18:45 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:41 Koshi wrote:On September 23 2013 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:On September 23 2013 18:34 Koshi wrote:On September 23 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote:
actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push.
that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum.
I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in.
when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread.
being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up.
if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game. Dont understand why you think that rayn is 100% town if his 70 post towards me are total null. People like yamato, those are 100% town. Yamato is not 100% anything. 100% town. His last scumgames compared to this. 100% town. The only reason he might be scum is because he found new love in rolling scum because he played voice mafia with you guys or something in those lines. I agree that this is nothing like his last mafia game. But, to be fair, he didn't actually try in his previous mafia game. So if he WAS trying. Then he could play like this as scum.
Fact is he rolled scum 3 times in the last 4 games and 3 times he played exactly the same which was totally different than now. Pretty good reasons to see him as 100% town till Day 4.
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On September 23 2013 18:47 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 18:34 Koshi wrote:On September 23 2013 18:24 Mocsta wrote:
actually, my read on rayn has nothing to do with the koshi push.
that's alignment null.. in my opinion he could push u like that as town or scum.
I don't care if u think my play I'd bad. its co pletely different playing day1 to replacing in.
when u replace, u can instantly analyse the thread.
being here day1 means I have to generate convo... man, I wanted yo lurk this game, but after the shitfight, someone had to step up.
if it wasn't clear, my first post with seals was written before joining the game. Dont understand why you think that rayn is 100% town if his 70 post towards me are total null. People like yamato, those are 100% town. Because, the push itself is null.. he could easily tunnel you relentlessly as either alignment (just like myself). Rayn is town for a couple reasons; i dont need to outline them all, but the one that is pertinent here is that he has continuously tried to alter his approach to get people to understand his pov. i haven't played with a scum that does this yetscum tunnel is.. here is my info... scream im right.. if the scum player is good, they will update the case as the thread continues. rayn is proactively trying to find out why his case isnt getting traction and then making adjustments to correct that.. thats fuckn townie.. regadless of whether teh case is wrong or right... He obviously beleives in his case, and you havent given him an answer yet that has satisfied him.. As i alluded to before, i believe it is because he holds you to a higher content standard than the rest of the thread.
Nope. It is 80% meta about my scumgame with him. 20% because I am not playing like I have been in my previous game as town.
We will see. He can't up this shit much longer.
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Btw marv, do you think FT is scum now?
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Ok new list on who you want to doc:
Yamato
DP
BH
marv (ok, maybe I am a bit butthurt about the bad lynch, so you can be on Koshi doclist as well, it's a true honor.)
Final answer. Last list. yay!
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On September 23 2013 19:04 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 19:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok new list on who you want to doc:
Yamato
DP
BH
marv (ok, maybe I am a bit butthurt about the bad lynch, so you can be on Koshi doclist as well, it's a true honor.)
Final answer. Last list. yay! Wtf is blahzinghand on there for.... and fuck u too koshi
:D so funny.
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On September 23 2013 19:22 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 19:19 marvellosity wrote:
Current shitlist is Firm/Pandain/Stutters/Risen/LM/(Vayne) Yeah, like thers suspect ppl in that list for sure. BUT .. 5 to 6 ppl replaced in.. Are you suggesting it is likely they are all town?
3 people replaced in. Onegu is a big ???
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On September 23 2013 19:26 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 19:23 FirmTofu wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Finally got some decent reads. :D
Firstly, I want to address the vigi situation.
As a vigilante you want to shoot the people who are currently useless and are unlikely to become useful in the future. I'll go through a few people and address the value of shooting them.
We have recent replacement inactives in Malongo, Deconduo, and Blazinghand. These guys deserve some time to catch up to the thread. Their deaths would not serve a higher purpose in the short-term.
Then we have people like VayneAuthority, kush, and VE. These are people that are capable of strong town games, but are currently either just trolling or posting with a subdued interest. I would say that this group of people becomes more easy to read as the game progresses, hence they aren't the best vig shots.
Tier 3 are people who are sitting in the semi-lurker category, but have some posts of substance. I would include Pandain, JAT, Mr.CC, Zaragon, Sentinel, Umasi, Stutters, and a few others I can't remember in this grouping. I believe that this group probably holds the majority of the scumteam. These are people that want to stay just above lurker territory so as to avoid suspicion. I think most of these guys would be good vig shots as long as some discretion is used. These are people that aren't trying to get better and aren't going to play better when asked. They are either hardcore lurking or posting little to no substance. Examples include Risen, Coag, and Lonemeow. Anyone who is in this category is a decent shot from a vig perspective, but is less likely to be scum than the previous category I mentioned. You forgot to add yourself.
+1
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On September 23 2013 19:27 FirmTofu wrote:
I would actually place myself in the category right before that one, but I can see why you might think that.
The group that is most likely scum? wtf.
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