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ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:26 GMT
#3681
Did I ever say if I think geript is town or scum? IDR. I probably said town if anything, but you just went null.
That was scummy . Thanks for helping mafia by throwing away your vote in a plurality.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:30 GMT
#3684
Like I'm getting fucking flashbacks to LXI where geript basically did nothing the entire game riding his "conf town" thing that was invented by town. There's no "conf town" associated with pretending to be a vig and if anyone says so they are fucking mafia and we should lynch them.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:32 GMT
#3687
On September 26 2013 07:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Does Geript have a confirmed shot anywhere?

No he basically said he was joking about having a gun to create some kind of effect and nobody has bothered him since.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:37 GMT
#3692
On September 26 2013 07:36 marvellosity wrote:
The thing is, the way geript is playing could well be legitimate townie paranoia.

But at the moment there's a distinct lack of trying to solve the game or interact with others while doing so

Make it null, captain.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:38 GMT
#3694
VCA tonight, combining with my reads, I'll prep it and dump before daypost.

Meanwhile, anyone have reasons that LM is NOT scum?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:39 GMT
#3695
Remember to throw your votes away today if you are geript or mafia. It will help me find you.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:52 GMT
#3700
On September 26 2013 07:43 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
The thing is I'm so not confident as town.

And if I want to lynch somebody for doing distinctly non-town things people are going to shout: "Town can do that too! He's just bad town! That's so obviously not-town oriented that scum would never do such a thing!"

The problem is that they are probably right, and we end up with a mislynch. If I can't trust that characteristics associated with being mafia or being not-town are true, how on Earth can I push a correct lynch?

LM is playing not-town. So therefore he should be mafia, am I missing something here?

And Koshi, please fuck off kindly.

I'm going to tell you a quick story.

It's an analogy for where I think TL towns should be headed but it takes testicular fortitude and nobody has time for that.

I'm in a 25-man raid, and one of the components of the fight is that a subset of the group goes off on its own to ensure that everyone survives. That sub-group requires someone to keep them alive. Now, in this specific raid, nobody wanted to do it. I begged, I AFK'd, nobody volunteered. So here's what I said: "I'm going to start kicking healers until someone volunteers to heal the subgroup". Guess what? Someone fucking volunteered right quick.

Apply it to this game: I'm ready to start lynching people who very clearly are not interested in participating or even looking town. If you're not participating, you're scum. You're scum and you can fuck off and never sign up for another game until you get your shit together. Stay the fuck out of my games with this nonsense. I can't make the hosts remove you but I am empowered to do the removing myself.

VOTE LONEMEOW
ENGLAND PREVAILS
The concept that mafia will be the only ones looking town is fucking stupid and I reject it with all my being. If town don't want to act/look town because "they have no reason to" then I have no reason to keep them around, do I? No.

So, all in all, rage mode is activated. I want to kill LM because he has
- made no effort to look town
- made no effort to actually play the game
- is as about as involved in the dialogue as a gerbil

So we're fucking killing him today, because if you want garbage-free games now and in the future, you need to set the precedent.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:55 GMT
#3705
On September 26 2013 07:54 Koshi wrote:
@ObviousOne
Yeah, this is never going to happen. The part that TL will start playing better because we plynch.

If you want TL mafia become better.

You play a shitton more invitational games. The real cool games are 100% invitational. Like the next one from Sentinel.

Me playing games to get better doesn't make any of the other 29 players play properly. Unless you mean for my sanity I should try to get into invitational games. For my sanity, I generally avoid large games. I signed up for this to try it again and, well, yeah. Less than pleased but not much I can do about it except yell and vote.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:58 GMT
#3710
On September 26 2013 07:55 Cephiro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 07:19 ObviousOne wrote:
Holy shit massive difference in thread presence for Ceph between this game and last, and it's not just filter length.

His scum reads are literally the easiest things in the world for either alignment. Not seeing an attempt to prove he's town.

I see questions but not a lot of accusations.

Was going to mention his use of color but his filter in this game isn't engaged enough for him to really have discussed his scum reads at length and to beg us to lynch / kill them. The engagement is the biggest thing for me. It's harder to post when mafia and I know that's a tell very specific to me but I can't be the only one with it.

Fuck. Is there a round-up of suspicions on Cephiro outside of what has been recently discussed?

Does he ever say anyone is TOWN in this game? I don't see that, either.

On May 29 2013 19:46 Baker1986 wrote:
"ECCLESTONCEPHIRO MAKE TROUBLE, YOU ALL BAD, OO BAD, WHY BAD?"



If you'd read the cases properly, you'd see there are actually way more accusations rather than questions. So why is providing the two cases I have completed bad, just because they are "easy" targets? I think it's better to post the reads you are more certain on rather than try to sell everyone on a case you're unsure of yourself.

My filter isn't "engaged" enough because of the lack of time. Missing out on pretty much all of D1, N1, and the first half of D2 doesn't leave much time to engage. And still I'm here using that time as effectively as I can. I haven't been able to ensure other townies of my townyness in the few posts I've made. Usually with more posts that is also something much easier done, since it gives others content to make reads from.

I have several townreads, but in the time I have available, I consider it much more efficient to spend it on telling you about my scumreads and trying to prove others that I am town, rather than trying to tell everyone "Hey, I think player X is town because..". Sure, that also helps to some extent, but it's not as efficient. If you want though, I have no problem in sharing my townreads. Someone did a list post where they pegged everyone as something. As a new player I thought that would be a great way to share your reads on everyone, but with more experience I have learned the contrary, which is why I don't do such.

@JAT: At the moment it seems to me the only other realistic candidate is LoneMeow. Of course things could still happen, but I won't delve into the world of those possibilities right now. From my perspective, anyone is a better lynch than I am, since to me I'm confirmed town. (Obviously.) Lone isn't the best lynch available in my opinion, but it's a lynch I can get on. Many players have already pointed out flaws in his play. In my opinion, there are also some redeeming qualities. Trying to look at it from a newbie perspective, it is possible that he's simply trying to provide his reads for the other players but doesn't know how to back them up. (I have not read his newbie games so I don't know what caliber of a player he has been in those.) But it's also a very convinient free out-of-lynch card for claiming newbie, thus being able to vote and blame several players without committing, easily flip-flopping from a target to another. I'd much rather see kush lynched, but I can get on a LM lynch as well.

I want to read this, I really do, but every time I try my eyes glaze over and I tab back to my video game. I'll try to make sense of it after a stogie.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 22:59 GMT
#3711
On September 26 2013 07:56 marvellosity wrote:
I have a feeling I'm not going to be listened to. Oh well.

You're 100% on this?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:01 GMT
#3712
"This" being Cephiro
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:07 GMT
#3716
LM isn't the best lunch available that isn't you but you aren't pushing a better one that isn't you.

Ver help us.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:09 GMT
#3720
Do stuff! Do anything! Stop defending! Post reads! Get mad! Something! Holy shit.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:10 GMT
#3723
Who was on my tits for constructed posts? That last post from Ceph was as formulaic as it gets.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:16 GMT
#3730
On September 26 2013 08:15 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhhhhhhhhh.....uuhhhhhhhhh......

That's.......not townlike from marv.


23 pages of filter I hope he's town.

this is the worst post ever, not in terms of alignment

I HOPE HE'S TOWN TOO JESUS CHRIST MATT
DO YOU HOPE HE'S SCUM?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:19 GMT
#3734
On September 26 2013 08:18 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:16 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:15 Mattchew wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhhhhhhhhh.....uuhhhhhhhhh......

That's.......not townlike from marv.


23 pages of filter I hope he's town.

this is the worst post ever, not in terms of alignment

I HOPE HE'S TOWN TOO JESUS CHRIST MATT
DO YOU HOPE HE'S SCUM?

I hope everyone is town and we win just win right now?

I don't hope he's anything, I just try to figure out what he is

It implies a town read and "I HOPE IM RIGHT"

You disagree, show us.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:22 GMT
#3737
On September 26 2013 08:20 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 08:19 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:18 Mattchew wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:16 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 26 2013 08:15 Mattchew wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:55 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On September 26 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Ehhhhhhhhhhh.....uuhhhhhhhhh......

That's.......not townlike from marv.


23 pages of filter I hope he's town.

this is the worst post ever, not in terms of alignment

I HOPE HE'S TOWN TOO JESUS CHRIST MATT
DO YOU HOPE HE'S SCUM?

I hope everyone is town and we win just win right now?

I don't hope he's anything, I just try to figure out what he is

It implies a town read and "I HOPE IM RIGHT"

You disagree, show us.

where the fuck have you been

Sleeping. It's part of the non-game-related spoiler I posted earlier. You're not showing us he's mafia. You're complaining about town reads on him. Where's your campaign on marv? Why are you voting LM if you think marv is scum?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:31 GMT
#3758
control A
control C
come here
control V

boom

john
fucking
madden
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:34 GMT
#3765
On September 26 2013 08:31 Pandain wrote:
VE is still best lynch but between ceph and lm, lm is best.

Besides ceph contributing more, my main suspicion of LM was him voting himself as there's no town reason to. Same applies to VE Day one but his was even more suspicious

VE martyring is not alignment indicative and that's my final answer because I've been in his head. I've shadowed him. I've been scum with him. He fucking loves to play scum. If he's in the dumps about his play it's because he's town and performing poorly due to time or whatever. COULD he do it as scum? Sure. So I am not letting it have any bearing on my read of him. It's null.

Bark up some other trees, please, KTHXBYE
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 25 2013 23:35 GMT
#3768
Like okay you want to talk about VE? How about he's switched to LM from Cephiro, what do you make of that?
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
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