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On September 26 2013 05:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


What makes him different from Cephiro in regards to being an 'easy target'

On September 26 2013 05:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


Players like Stutters and Sylencia are experienced players, but people often refer to them as "easy targets" or "lynchbait".

On September 26 2013 05:25 Cephiro wrote:
Well there have definitely been some interesting reactions among certain individuals. However, here is my opinion on who should be lynched today:

kushm4sta: There is just no way this guy is town. For someone posting as much as he is, the amount of content is way too small. He's basically just posting "Hey guys, I really don't care." And yet some people somehow consider him town? He has one post that I actually find above the decent line. Barely. He keeps calling several people town, many for no reasons whatsoever. He mentions very few people he is suspicious of, and at most says "lynch pls", follows up with a vote a few hours later that has no effect on the game due to his non-committal. Even when Coag was calling his vig shot, he was basically saying "yea go for it sure", when he earlier would have been ready to lynch Coag.

justanothertownie: Comments on pretty much everything possible, and ends up with the conclusion "null/not alignment-indicative" almost every single time. Asks several unrelevant questions, where he offers his "maybe he would do it for reason x, or maybe he wouldn't for reason y theories", again taking no stance. Later on his posts start sounding better on the general level, but they still aren't working towards a goal. His reasons for suspecting someone are posted by others (Marv's post on Mocsta, which follows up shortly with this.), and he can't find anything suspicious about a player with as much content as Mocsta on his own? He isn't taking a firm stance here, but the thing is that he doesn't even want to. He's fine with sheeping along in the thread and looking like he has opinions about stuff.

He also brings this up a lot:

Reminding people that you're openly ready to answer questions is not bad. The thing is, it's the only way he wants to contribute. There is easily lots of content available by the point in the game he says this, and many possible players to look at. But he doesn't want to take firm opinions on anything. It's like he's trying to avoid angering anyone in the game to avoid being targeted.



Another fine recent quote that is as fluffy as is humanly possible. This way of posting gives him the possibility of choosing whichever option is more convinient later on. This slowly ascends from having him red in his spreadsheet since his townreads are voting for him into a vote. Anyone reading his filter can see the ambigious nature of the posts, and it has given him too much of a free pass so far. Someone who wants to buddy, be afraid of taking an own stance to things, and wanting to buddy everyone just simply cannot be town.

That's for the two easy ones. The more complicated cases are coming a bit later, I am still working on them. Should be able to put them out with enough time for people to read them before the deadline.

On September 26 2013 05:48 Cephiro wrote:

Yay, an OMGUS vote. Look how much I care. I have still stuff coming up, but that doesn't mean the case on you is worth any less. There are many scummy things in thread, and you're ranking very highly on the list of scummy things.

You're not even denying any of the accusations made against you. You're just like "Yes, that is indeed the case. You must be scum for pointing that out." ... Really?

On September 24 2013 11:44 Cephiro wrote:
Well, it seems like the night didn't go that badly. Appareantly there's a vig shot that hit town, but on the happier side of life it seems like we had a successful doctor protection tonight. And no blues were hit. That said, we really need to lynch scum today. And since I'm still alive, I'm going to do my best to ensure that happens. Not too far from having read the whole thread properly either.





I hope you're joking....

On September 26 2013 05:25 Cephiro wrote:
Well there have definitely been some interesting reactions among certain individuals. However, here is my opinion on who should be lynched today:

kushm4sta: There is just no way this guy is town. For someone posting as much as he is, the amount of content is way too small. He's basically just posting "Hey guys, I really don't care." And yet some people somehow consider him town? He has one post that I actually find above the decent line. Barely. He keeps calling several people town, many for no reasons whatsoever. He mentions very few people he is suspicious of, and at most says "lynch pls", follows up with a vote a few hours later that has no effect on the game due to his non-committal. Even when Coag was calling his vig shot, he was basically saying "yea go for it sure", when he earlier would have been ready to lynch Coag.

justanothertownie: Comments on pretty much everything possible, and ends up with the conclusion "null/not alignment-indicative" almost every single time. Asks several unrelevant questions, where he offers his "maybe he would do it for reason x, or maybe he wouldn't for reason y theories", again taking no stance. Later on his posts start sounding better on the general level, but they still aren't working towards a goal. His reasons for suspecting someone are posted by others (Marv's post on Mocsta, which follows up shortly with this.), and he can't find anything suspicious about a player with as much content as Mocsta on his own? He isn't taking a firm stance here, but the thing is that he doesn't even want to. He's fine with sheeping along in the thread and looking like he has opinions about stuff.

He also brings this up a lot:

Reminding people that you're openly ready to answer questions is not bad. The thing is, it's the only way he wants to contribute. There is easily lots of content available by the point in the game he says this, and many possible players to look at. But he doesn't want to take firm opinions on anything. It's like he's trying to avoid angering anyone in the game to avoid being targeted.



Another fine recent quote that is as fluffy as is humanly possible. This way of posting gives him the possibility of choosing whichever option is more convinient later on. This slowly ascends from having him red in his spreadsheet since his townreads are voting for him into a vote. Anyone reading his filter can see the ambigious nature of the posts, and it has given him too much of a free pass so far. Someone who wants to buddy, be afraid of taking an own stance to things, and wanting to buddy everyone just simply cannot be town.

That's for the two easy ones. The more complicated cases are coming a bit later, I am still working on them. Should be able to put them out with enough time for people to read them before the deadline.

On September 26 2013 05:50 Koshi wrote:

Is he scum for saying you are scum?

On September 26 2013 05:58 Koshi wrote:

But you aren't getting lynched and he is.

On September 26 2013 06:01 Koshi wrote:

Why is he picking you when there are "scummier possibilities" that might get lynched. Wouldn't that be better as scum?

On September 26 2013 06:01 Cephiro wrote:


I have already told I haven't had as much time to contribute towards the game as usually, I'm not going to bring it up again.

If there are much scummier possibilities, could you tell me your opinion on 2-3 people other than me for example (since I heard your amazing reasoning on me already)? And give reasoning of you own instead of quoting someone and saying "I kinda agree with this." Ok?

On September 25 2013 23:20 justanothertownie wrote:
Since you are so keen about me posting everything I think about this game. I don't like rayn at all atm. This is not his usual thread presence.
He doesn't go around declaring people to be 100% town. As town he always does this. Especially with Koshi. Here he goes after him instead.
Like I said he is sheeping you instead of headbutting walls to get his own lynches and opinions through. I can't imagine this to be caused by the size of the game only.

On September 26 2013 06:16 Pandain wrote:

This is retarded

On September 26 2013 06:17 Cephiro wrote:


Okay, I agree that it's not all about reasoning of one's own. But do you not agree something is wrong if a person constantly agrees with others and doesn't provide any input of his own? It gives me 2 options:

1) You agree/trust people way too easily for whatever reason, which is not good in a game of mafia.
2) You purposefully buddy people to try and avoid being targeted.

I saw the small back-and-forth of yours with rayn, but I still think the way the conversation ends leaves a little too much open.
What do you think about VE's play currently for example?

On September 26 2013 07:02 Cephiro wrote:
Reply to JAT considering my vote: I am not making a placeholder vote for now. I'd obviously want a scumread of mine to be lynched, but I will have to look at the options which are realistic closer to the deadline.

On September 26 2013 07:24 geript wrote:

You know, I haven't really coalesced my feeling about this statement and it's been thrown around a fuck ton this game; but I don't think I've really seen it before to the same extent. It's just an idiotic statement as town "Uh who of the guys who are currently up for lynch are likely scum?" It assumes that only the current candidates are scum. Either I'm having an awful game or I'm right on track. I'm voting marv and saying fuck it for the night.

On September 26 2013 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now that the clusterfuck called Golden Sun has ended i can focus on this shit.
JAT are you here? I forgot something earlier.