TL Mafia LXII: TL Noir - Page 6

On September 25 2013 16:38 Mocsta wrote:
Thnx for the list.

I agree with a couple on ya tier1

Can u give some comment to what transpired with mattychew defense.

On September 25 2013 17:20 Mocsta wrote:
So u were comfortable with how he diffused the case? Is that correct firmtofu?

And did u think the marv content was relevant to this game. Or just generic spiel around marv in his prime?

On September 25 2013 17:50 geript wrote:
Actually moment of insight. Tofu is scum. I'll explain in the morning.

On September 25 2013 17:51 Mocsta wrote:
Tofu.

I got what u said the first time.

I'm saying. I think the only way town would fail to address the case is if they gave up. If that was the case, we would have a completely different post from Matt or any town for that matter.

Scum do things for many reasons. Sometimes we can't understand it until post game .

All I'm saying is. If Matt chew could break down the case without resorting to discrediting. He would...

But thanks for responding anyways. U do understand where u r coming from. I am just of a different opinion on how to interpret

On September 26 2013 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv should i vote for ceph?

On September 26 2013 06:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because i don't really give a fuck atm. This happens every time and tbh today i'm in bad mood for playing mafia.

On September 25 2013 15:36 geript wrote:
Ok so here's where my mind's at. The night kills were super odd in many ways. I'm assuming that the NKs were Yam/BH/Wos; we could make an interesting argument that BH/VA/WoS were the shots and that Coag is actually scum, but I see very little reason to do so there. Yam/BH/WoS isn't awful I guess. but with both VE and Marv in a game I'd fully expect if both of them were town that both of them would be targeted as it's unlikely that both would be medic'd. In the very least I'd expect a doublestack on one of them and then a freebie shot at BH.

Here's the problem that I'm seeing: town got into a shitty place on D1 which is amazing for scum (yes part of that is my fault) and the best priority for scum in this type of situation is to do their best to keep it that way. So the highest priority for scum is not to remove blues but rather to remove people who can bring the thread on track. WoS is ignored half the time despite being a decent player. Yam can bring a thread on track but just as often derail a thread into "No You're scum" posting. Vayne (if he was a scum shot) is intentionally worthless until endgame.

Rather my priority as scum would be to remove active quality players of which the available shots would be: VE, Marv, DP (prior to rage quit), Mocsta, Rayn and a few others. So what's the point in shooting WoS or Yam/Vayne over any of those five. I'm honestly not seeing it. There's a shit ton of scum (6); there's an amazing KP rate (1/2 round up), town seems to be mostly inactive. Where's any sort of benefit of not trying to remove the "get on track" type people to keep the thread in a clusterfucked situation?

I've only seen odd kills like this in two drastically different situations: mostly inactive scum where NKs going through is far more important than anything else and mostly active experienced scum where they need a bit of time to hide before it becomes obvious. I'm not sure that Mattchew is right about Marv, but I really think that we should be taking hard looks at Marv/VE/etc. again because I'd bet that a number of the "pro scummers" are scum.

On August 28 2013 02:55 FirmTofu wrote:
Are scum controlling the thread right now? Why are people not even discussing the flip?

Rayn flipped suspicious citizen. Rayn is SAME with Koshi, so Koshi is either scum or SAM. The NK narrows down a ton of possibilities.

So this begs the question, why was rayn killed? Plenty of people were suspicious of rayn; namely Vayne, sn0, and Koshi. Rayn's death revealed a ton of information that town can use to figure out this game. Rayn kill does NOT make sense based on the information we have at hand.

The only remaining possibility is if rayn was pushing a lynch on scum. Enter Sn0. Towards the end of the previous day, Sn0 was being heavily pressured by Rayn. Rayn vowed to push a lynch on Sn0, and lo and behold, he dies at night. Sn0 has been obvious scum the entire game and no one is pressuring him like they should be except Rayn and I.

If we can't consolidate our votes on Sn0, we lose.
##vote: Sn0_man

On September 25 2013 17:50 geript wrote:
Actually moment of insight. Tofu is scum. I'll explain in the morning.

On September 26 2013 17:25 ObviousOne wrote:
@Firm where you at on sentinel? I'm in your filter and there's a case in here with his name at the top (haven't read it yet, wanted to get this in here in case you're still reading) but an update would be good.