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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 00:45 GMT
#5761
On October 02 2013 09:43 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm going to ask that if I offended you I'm sorry, it isn't out of personal rage and instead just indicative of how I feel in this game. I don't want to lose and I know I've found scum.
I assume this is to me.

Thats not the point.
You have found scum, perhaps, but the person is not here and there is a lot on the line this cycle.

Dropping to 2 KP is paramount.

If Dec is scum; there are 4 others left.
This just feels like a cop out at this pivotal time. Nothing to do with being offended.


But I feel he is most likely and am urging you to vote with me if you think he's scum.

I have already shared why I disagree with you about iamp being scum, why would I switch to him? I could switch to Stutters, what about you? Or back to FT?

But definitely iamp is not the lynch, at least for today.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:45 GMT
#5762
On October 02 2013 09:42 Pandain wrote:
I just read decondou in personality two. He lived for two days.

In his time he posted way more then he has here, so I think, plainly put, you're wrong and/or exagerrating what he did.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=deconduo&view=all

Note he also got killed night two.

So no, in regards to his meta not being lurker.
Show nested quote +

If I recall correctly, marv suggested he could be town basd on how he entered the game and didnt realise yamato was confirmed town.

How does this prove anything?

Thats Personality1 from 2011... for fucks sake...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 02 2013 00:46 GMT
#5763
On October 02 2013 09:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:43 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:10 Mocsta wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:27 deconduo wrote:
Yeah, very little reason for VE to be alive if he isn't scum, Surprised Kita and Koshi aren't dead either.

I went through Deconduo filter to see his last post (to check if he would be getting modkilled).

This came 7min after the cycle started; so I suppose he won't be modkilled.




My current list
Confirmed Town
8: ObviousOne -> No counter claim on RB
15: Coagulation -> No counter claim on vig

Probable Town
1: strongandbig
6: kushm4sta
7: Koshi
29: justanothertownie

Null
2: raynpelikoneet -> Really disappointed he didn't push FirmTofu to address my case yesterday.
13: Mr. Cheesecake -> Claims cop and then disappears?
19: [UoN]Sentinel -> Activity is too sporadic to get a feel for where he stands
23: Risen -> Has pushed Stutters in a really town-like way; but I felt he did not address the crux of the Geript case.
30: Mocsta -> I have included myself here, as many seem uncertain of my alignment

Scummy to some degree
10: FirmTofu -> Why has he continued to ignore my case?
11: Pandain -> Keeps ignoring me, and then comes out with a last minute vote on Deconduo. Need to filter
14: Decondou -> The vote backflip on Cephiro makes no sense
16: Stutters695 -> Clearly doesn't care about the game, and made a token post
17: iamperfection -> Acknowledged my case as good, but then didn't break it down



I am sticking with iamp

On October 02 2013 09:40 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:35 Risen wrote:
I didn't know scum could not roleblock someone and/or roleblock someone they were killing and then claim rb

Thats why I said, as the game progresses; the RB doesnt make someone confirmed town.

My read on JAT is independant of the RB.
I wish he was more forthcoming with his reads at this stage in the game; but he hasn't done anything to make me doubt my read.

So, still scummy then...

What the hell are you talking about?

Mocsta has OO confirmed town in his list, I say something along the lines of RB claiming not making someone confirmed town, Mocsta says yeah RBs don't make someone conf town, OO on his conf town list, disconnect does not compute
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 00:47 GMT
#5764
Then he wasn't even in Personality mafia 2(at least according to tl mafia database)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 00:47 GMT
#5765
Look at Boardwalk
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&user=deconduo&view=all

Then look at here and see the difference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=deconduo&view=all
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:48 GMT
#5766
On October 02 2013 09:45 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:43 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm going to ask that if I offended you I'm sorry, it isn't out of personal rage and instead just indicative of how I feel in this game. I don't want to lose and I know I've found scum.
I assume this is to me.

Thats not the point.
You have found scum, perhaps, but the person is not here and there is a lot on the line this cycle.

Dropping to 2 KP is paramount.

If Dec is scum; there are 4 others left.
This just feels like a cop out at this pivotal time. Nothing to do with being offended.


But I feel he is most likely and am urging you to vote with me if you think he's scum.

I have already shared why I disagree with you about iamp being scum, why would I switch to him? I could switch to Stutters, what about you? Or back to FT?

But definitely iamp is not the lynch, at least for today.

With 10min left, i am not vote swapping. If iamp *is* town; can't afford it to be another useless lynch because everyone swaps at the last minute.

Just going to have to accept the decision, and fingers crossed its a red flip.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:49 GMT
#5767
On October 02 2013 09:46 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:43 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:10 Mocsta wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:27 deconduo wrote:
Yeah, very little reason for VE to be alive if he isn't scum, Surprised Kita and Koshi aren't dead either.

I went through Deconduo filter to see his last post (to check if he would be getting modkilled).

This came 7min after the cycle started; so I suppose he won't be modkilled.




My current list
Confirmed Town
8: ObviousOne -> No counter claim on RB
15: Coagulation -> No counter claim on vig

Probable Town
1: strongandbig
6: kushm4sta
7: Koshi
29: justanothertownie

Null
2: raynpelikoneet -> Really disappointed he didn't push FirmTofu to address my case yesterday.
13: Mr. Cheesecake -> Claims cop and then disappears?
19: [UoN]Sentinel -> Activity is too sporadic to get a feel for where he stands
23: Risen -> Has pushed Stutters in a really town-like way; but I felt he did not address the crux of the Geript case.
30: Mocsta -> I have included myself here, as many seem uncertain of my alignment

Scummy to some degree
10: FirmTofu -> Why has he continued to ignore my case?
11: Pandain -> Keeps ignoring me, and then comes out with a last minute vote on Deconduo. Need to filter
14: Decondou -> The vote backflip on Cephiro makes no sense
16: Stutters695 -> Clearly doesn't care about the game, and made a token post
17: iamperfection -> Acknowledged my case as good, but then didn't break it down



I am sticking with iamp

On October 02 2013 09:40 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:35 Risen wrote:
I didn't know scum could not roleblock someone and/or roleblock someone they were killing and then claim rb

Thats why I said, as the game progresses; the RB doesnt make someone confirmed town.

My read on JAT is independant of the RB.
I wish he was more forthcoming with his reads at this stage in the game; but he hasn't done anything to make me doubt my read.

So, still scummy then...

What the hell are you talking about?

Mocsta has OO confirmed town in his list, I say something along the lines of RB claiming not making someone confirmed town, Mocsta says yeah RBs don't make someone conf town, OO on his conf town list, disconnect does not compute
Are you fucking serious?

Out of everything in the thread, this is what you go on about?
On October 02 2013 09:30 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:28 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:21 justanothertownie wrote:
I was roleblocked.

N3.

I will call you confirmed because I had a hard town read on you then + the RB.
But as the game progresses, RB means less (as blues may all be gone etc) so its easier for scum to justify RB themselves.

N1 there is certainly no benefit to RB scum. Which is why OO is confirmed just off that action.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 02 2013 00:50 GMT
#5768
10 mins i thought we had an hour and 10 min
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 02 2013 00:50 GMT
#5769
Wait. 10 Minutes? I thought deadline is in 1 hour?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 02 2013 00:51 GMT
#5770
On October 02 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
If you actually read my filter there are several town tells for me in this game and as you have seen before and seen somewhat this game i am extremmly good at figuring out that people are town.

1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town

2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute.

3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact.

4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum


did anyone read this like wtf
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 02 2013 00:51 GMT
#5771
On October 02 2013 09:51 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
If you actually read my filter there are several town tells for me in this game and as you have seen before and seen somewhat this game i am extremmly good at figuring out that people are town.

1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town

2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute.

3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact.

4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum


did anyone read this like wtf

Yeah dude. Even answered it.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:52 GMT
#5772
On October 02 2013 09:47 Pandain wrote:
Look at Boardwalk
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&user=deconduo&view=all

Then look at here and see the difference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=deconduo&view=all

Thats true.

Immediately clear.
Too late for a vote swap regardless, but he is certainly a safe lynch next cycle.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 00:53 GMT
#5773
On October 02 2013 09:52 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:47 Pandain wrote:
Look at Boardwalk
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=403766&user=deconduo&view=all

Then look at here and see the difference:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&user=deconduo&view=all

Thats true.

Immediately clear.
Too late for a vote swap regardless, but he is certainly a safe lynch next cycle.


I think we have an hour 8 minutes, not 8 minutes.

Please lynch decondou.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 02 2013 00:53 GMT
#5774
On October 02 2013 09:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Is this your whole defense?
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
If you actually read my filter there are several town tells for me in this game and as you have seen before and seen somewhat this game i am extremmly good at figuring out that people are town.

1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town

2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute.

3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact.

4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum


1. I think this is a weak point.
2. This is a weak point too. Why would scum not push their cases to some extent?
3. It doesn't work like that. You talking about him won't summon marv into the thread. Maybe you just wanted to test if he was there.
4. Similar point. Asking him of your opinion won't make marv lean scum on you. You are very interested in the opinion of others about your alignment as shown in another post where you ask everyone to comment on you.

your not thinking marv was killed there is 0 motivation for me to want him to call me scum it serves no purpose to me what so ever it only hurts me to have marv call me scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 02 2013 00:54 GMT
#5775
I don't like being called confirmed town because I claimed role blocked. Please take me off your confirmed town list if that's your only reason.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
October 02 2013 00:55 GMT
#5776
I'm also around for vote switch shenanigans. Let's take it to the max.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 02 2013 00:55 GMT
#5777
On October 02 2013 09:55 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm also around for vote switch shenanigans. Let's take it to the max.


Do you think decondou is scum?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
October 02 2013 00:55 GMT
#5778
On October 02 2013 09:53 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Is this your whole defense?
On October 02 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
If you actually read my filter there are several town tells for me in this game and as you have seen before and seen somewhat this game i am extremmly good at figuring out that people are town.

1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town

2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute.

3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact.

4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum


1. I think this is a weak point.
2. This is a weak point too. Why would scum not push their cases to some extent?
3. It doesn't work like that. You talking about him won't summon marv into the thread. Maybe you just wanted to test if he was there.
4. Similar point. Asking him of your opinion won't make marv lean scum on you. You are very interested in the opinion of others about your alignment as shown in another post where you ask everyone to comment on you.

your not thinking marv was killed there is 0 motivation for me to want him to call me scum it serves no purpose to me what so ever it only hurts me to have marv call me scum.

And you think if you don't ask he won't say it? Come on...
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 02 2013 00:56 GMT
#5779
i dont think stutters is mafia kill decondu to save me.

##Vote:decondu
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 02 2013 00:57 GMT
#5780
On October 02 2013 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:53 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Is this your whole defense?
On October 02 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote:
If you actually read my filter there are several town tells for me in this game and as you have seen before and seen somewhat this game i am extremmly good at figuring out that people are town.

1. I bothered to read the entire thread when i replaced in. Yes i could be a dedicated scum player but the likely hood that i would read the entire thread and post my thoughts is more likely to come from town

2. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=172#3425 scum don't like to be center of attention i posted this when the thread was dead they don't like being talked about. The like to feign contribution and look good not actually contribute.

3. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=193#3842 why would i want marv to come back and steer the vote onto cephiro. This point dosn't have any wifom and is confirmed fact.

4. another non wifom point http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=226#4516 why the fuck would i want marv to comment on me it was pretty clear that he was leaning scum on me. There is no reason in the world i would want marv to call me scum as scum


1. I think this is a weak point.
2. This is a weak point too. Why would scum not push their cases to some extent?
3. It doesn't work like that. You talking about him won't summon marv into the thread. Maybe you just wanted to test if he was there.
4. Similar point. Asking him of your opinion won't make marv lean scum on you. You are very interested in the opinion of others about your alignment as shown in another post where you ask everyone to comment on you.

your not thinking marv was killed there is 0 motivation for me to want him to call me scum it serves no purpose to me what so ever it only hurts me to have marv call me scum.

And you think if you don't ask he won't say it? Come on...

he didnt even leave a last will it still makes no sense for me to drive it out of him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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