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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
October 02 2013 00:31 GMT
#5741
Mocsta I don't think Zaragon ever claimed being roleblocked?! Could you give me a quote for this?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:32 GMT
#5742
On October 02 2013 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:28 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:23 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.

You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!

i have been thinking about stutter more and i think he may just turn into a mislynch. his play is kind of sucidal as scum just in the way grepit did with his shenanigans. Making promises and not following through while horrible would be more likely to come from town than scum. Scum care more about image than town.

unfortunate but it is what it is.


See I dont like this iamp.

You are justifying a read on Stutters, by applying the tells of a flipped town to Mr.X (Stutters)
I think thats relatively deceitful/fallacious in general.

And why is making promises and not following through likely to come from town?
Was not Cephiro lynched for that exact reason?

Scum and town equally care about image. You need town cred as either alignment to push a lynch.
This is *VERY* poor reasoning.

You are back on my shit list heavily.

whats scummy about it
Whats scummy about it; is that you are cockblocking a lynch on Stutters for extremely trivial reasons.

Exacerbated by the fact that a mislynch leaves KP at 3.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 02 2013 00:33 GMT
#5743
On October 02 2013 09:32 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:28 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:23 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.

You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!

i have been thinking about stutter more and i think he may just turn into a mislynch. his play is kind of sucidal as scum just in the way grepit did with his shenanigans. Making promises and not following through while horrible would be more likely to come from town than scum. Scum care more about image than town.

unfortunate but it is what it is.


See I dont like this iamp.

You are justifying a read on Stutters, by applying the tells of a flipped town to Mr.X (Stutters)
I think thats relatively deceitful/fallacious in general.

And why is making promises and not following through likely to come from town?
Was not Cephiro lynched for that exact reason?

Scum and town equally care about image. You need town cred as either alignment to push a lynch.
This is *VERY* poor reasoning.

You are back on my shit list heavily.

whats scummy about it
Whats scummy about it; is that you are cockblocking a lynch on Stutters for extremely trivial reasons.

Exacerbated by the fact that a mislynch leaves KP at 3.

so im preventing a lynch on stutters to secure my own lynch lol
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:33 GMT
#5744
On October 02 2013 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Mocsta I don't think Zaragon ever claimed being roleblocked?! Could you give me a quote for this?

On September 27 2013 13:35 Zaragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:31 Mocsta wrote:
On September 27 2013 13:25 Zaragon wrote:
On September 27 2013 11:42 Mocsta wrote:
Who was roleblocked?


Trying to knee-jerk a role to come out, throwing himself on the bullet for Cephiro since he's suspicious himself already and expect to get lynched?

Maybe I'm just sleep-deprived, it could definitely be flawed logic. Anyway, see you tomorrow guys

What?

ObivousOne was roleblocked yesterday.
Surely someone would be RB'd today?

Why does asking about an RB suggest I am scum? seriously dude?

Let me guess, you were RB'd; and took my question to the thread personally?


Yep I was trying to find a fun way to say it and see if I could get something out of a reaction, but I really am sleep deprived (and on heavy, fun medication) so I'm not sure if it made sense even in theory
Thats why when he was shot, I assumed it was a blue snipe.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
October 02 2013 00:34 GMT
#5745
Ah, ok. I missed that.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 02 2013 00:35 GMT
#5746
decondu hasn't voted correct
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
October 02 2013 00:35 GMT
#5747
When does lynch end?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
October 02 2013 00:35 GMT
#5748
Correct.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 02 2013 00:35 GMT
#5749
I didn't know scum could not roleblock someone and/or roleblock someone they were killing and then claim rb
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
October 02 2013 00:36 GMT
#5750
On October 02 2013 09:35 Pandain wrote:
When does lynch end?

In 1,5 hours I think?!
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#5751
On October 02 2013 09:30 Pandain wrote:
Decondou, as I'll repeat, and I beg you to read my analysis. His meta is not lurking, he is a good contributor. There's an explanation that he doesn't have the time to keep up, but that's counteracted by posts he says which clearly show that he's understanding where the thread is. It is not fitting with his playstyle as an experienced player either to hide in the shadows. I only seem scum motivations.
I dont like this.
Yam and I specifically said this guy is hard to read. In personality 2, as town he lurked the entire Day cycle and used his janitor powers. Its very hard to know what to expect from someone that would do that.[/quote]

I concede that FTs points on his vote flip are highly suspect and I wish he was here to explain himself. He shouldnt be voted today without a chance to do that though.

No one has shared a reason why decondou is town because there is no reason. There is only a scum mindset and thus only a scum play. He is most suspicious out of everyone and I would like people to not just follow a bad bandwagon on iamp, and instead lynch who they think is most likely to be scum. And I hope I have shown it is decondou.
If I recall correctly, marv suggested he could be town basd on how he entered the game and didnt realise yamato was confirmed town.
He was then relegated to null based on how he handled the cephiro lynch.

I just cant believe that with 5 scum in the game; your best lynch is the one who is not present to explain himself further?
If you are right, this to me just feels like a bus.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
October 02 2013 00:38 GMT
#5752
I'm going to ask that if I offended you I'm sorry, it isn't out of personal rage and instead just indicative of how I feel in this game. I don't want to lose and I know I've found scum.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:39 GMT
#5753
On October 02 2013 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:32 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:28 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:23 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.

You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!

i have been thinking about stutter more and i think he may just turn into a mislynch. his play is kind of sucidal as scum just in the way grepit did with his shenanigans. Making promises and not following through while horrible would be more likely to come from town than scum. Scum care more about image than town.

unfortunate but it is what it is.


See I dont like this iamp.

You are justifying a read on Stutters, by applying the tells of a flipped town to Mr.X (Stutters)
I think thats relatively deceitful/fallacious in general.

And why is making promises and not following through likely to come from town?
Was not Cephiro lynched for that exact reason?

Scum and town equally care about image. You need town cred as either alignment to push a lynch.
This is *VERY* poor reasoning.

You are back on my shit list heavily.

whats scummy about it
Whats scummy about it; is that you are cockblocking a lynch on Stutters for extremely trivial reasons.

Exacerbated by the fact that a mislynch leaves KP at 3.

so im preventing a lynch on stutters to secure my own lynch lol
Your train only picked up steam when I went to bed last night.

Your defense of Stutters I believe came at a time, when your neck was not on the block. So the comment is invalid and misleading.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:40 GMT
#5754
On October 02 2013 09:35 Risen wrote:
I didn't know scum could not roleblock someone and/or roleblock someone they were killing and then claim rb

Thats why I said, as the game progresses; the RB doesnt make someone confirmed town.

My read on JAT is independant of the RB.
I wish he was more forthcoming with his reads at this stage in the game; but he hasn't done anything to make me doubt my read.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9640 Posts
October 02 2013 00:41 GMT
#5755
On October 02 2013 09:39 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:33 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:32 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:30 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:28 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:23 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:15 iamperfection wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:03 Risen wrote:
On October 02 2013 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Stutters is the coinflip here. He looks bad for voting LM but at least he is consistent because he voted him Day1 and Day2. Apart from that no information to be had.

You're disregarding the post you yourself pointed out to me earlier. It's not a coin flip, he has played scummy this game, and he's managed to do it in a filter as short as his is. Decon has done that too!

i have been thinking about stutter more and i think he may just turn into a mislynch. his play is kind of sucidal as scum just in the way grepit did with his shenanigans. Making promises and not following through while horrible would be more likely to come from town than scum. Scum care more about image than town.

unfortunate but it is what it is.


See I dont like this iamp.

You are justifying a read on Stutters, by applying the tells of a flipped town to Mr.X (Stutters)
I think thats relatively deceitful/fallacious in general.

And why is making promises and not following through likely to come from town?
Was not Cephiro lynched for that exact reason?

Scum and town equally care about image. You need town cred as either alignment to push a lynch.
This is *VERY* poor reasoning.

You are back on my shit list heavily.

whats scummy about it
Whats scummy about it; is that you are cockblocking a lynch on Stutters for extremely trivial reasons.

Exacerbated by the fact that a mislynch leaves KP at 3.

so im preventing a lynch on stutters to secure my own lynch lol
Your train only picked up steam when I went to bed last night.

Your defense of Stutters I believe came at a time, when your neck was not on the block. So the comment is invalid and misleading.

nope
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423071&currentpage=277#5537

came after kita someone extremely likely to be town had voted for me.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
October 02 2013 00:42 GMT
#5756
I just read decondou in personality two. He lived for two days.

In his time he posted way more then he has here, so I think, plainly put, you're wrong and/or exagerrating what he did.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=deconduo&view=all

Note he also got killed night two.

So no, in regards to his meta not being lurker.

If I recall correctly, marv suggested he could be town basd on how he entered the game and didnt realise yamato was confirmed town.

How does this prove anything?

Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 02 2013 00:43 GMT
#5757
On October 02 2013 09:10 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2013 11:27 deconduo wrote:
Yeah, very little reason for VE to be alive if he isn't scum, Surprised Kita and Koshi aren't dead either.

I went through Deconduo filter to see his last post (to check if he would be getting modkilled).

This came 7min after the cycle started; so I suppose he won't be modkilled.




My current list
Confirmed Town
8: ObviousOne -> No counter claim on RB
15: Coagulation -> No counter claim on vig

Probable Town
1: strongandbig
6: kushm4sta
7: Koshi
29: justanothertownie

Null
2: raynpelikoneet -> Really disappointed he didn't push FirmTofu to address my case yesterday.
13: Mr. Cheesecake -> Claims cop and then disappears?
19: [UoN]Sentinel -> Activity is too sporadic to get a feel for where he stands
23: Risen -> Has pushed Stutters in a really town-like way; but I felt he did not address the crux of the Geript case.
30: Mocsta -> I have included myself here, as many seem uncertain of my alignment

Scummy to some degree
10: FirmTofu -> Why has he continued to ignore my case?
11: Pandain -> Keeps ignoring me, and then comes out with a last minute vote on Deconduo. Need to filter
14: Decondou -> The vote backflip on Cephiro makes no sense
16: Stutters695 -> Clearly doesn't care about the game, and made a token post
17: iamperfection -> Acknowledged my case as good, but then didn't break it down



I am sticking with iamp

On October 02 2013 09:40 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:35 Risen wrote:
I didn't know scum could not roleblock someone and/or roleblock someone they were killing and then claim rb

Thats why I said, as the game progresses; the RB doesnt make someone confirmed town.

My read on JAT is independant of the RB.
I wish he was more forthcoming with his reads at this stage in the game; but he hasn't done anything to make me doubt my read.

So, still scummy then...
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:43 GMT
#5758
On October 02 2013 09:38 Pandain wrote:
I'm going to ask that if I offended you I'm sorry, it isn't out of personal rage and instead just indicative of how I feel in this game. I don't want to lose and I know I've found scum.
I assume this is to me.

Thats not the point.
You have found scum, perhaps, but the person is not here and there is a lot on the line this cycle.

Dropping to 2 KP is paramount.

If Dec is scum; there are 4 others left.
This just feels like a cop out at this pivotal time. Nothing to do with being offended.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16316 Posts
October 02 2013 00:44 GMT
#5759
On October 02 2013 09:43 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:10 Mocsta wrote:
On September 30 2013 11:27 deconduo wrote:
Yeah, very little reason for VE to be alive if he isn't scum, Surprised Kita and Koshi aren't dead either.

I went through Deconduo filter to see his last post (to check if he would be getting modkilled).

This came 7min after the cycle started; so I suppose he won't be modkilled.




My current list
Confirmed Town
8: ObviousOne -> No counter claim on RB
15: Coagulation -> No counter claim on vig

Probable Town
1: strongandbig
6: kushm4sta
7: Koshi
29: justanothertownie

Null
2: raynpelikoneet -> Really disappointed he didn't push FirmTofu to address my case yesterday.
13: Mr. Cheesecake -> Claims cop and then disappears?
19: [UoN]Sentinel -> Activity is too sporadic to get a feel for where he stands
23: Risen -> Has pushed Stutters in a really town-like way; but I felt he did not address the crux of the Geript case.
30: Mocsta -> I have included myself here, as many seem uncertain of my alignment

Scummy to some degree
10: FirmTofu -> Why has he continued to ignore my case?
11: Pandain -> Keeps ignoring me, and then comes out with a last minute vote on Deconduo. Need to filter
14: Decondou -> The vote backflip on Cephiro makes no sense
16: Stutters695 -> Clearly doesn't care about the game, and made a token post
17: iamperfection -> Acknowledged my case as good, but then didn't break it down



I am sticking with iamp

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2013 09:40 Mocsta wrote:
On October 02 2013 09:35 Risen wrote:
I didn't know scum could not roleblock someone and/or roleblock someone they were killing and then claim rb

Thats why I said, as the game progresses; the RB doesnt make someone confirmed town.

My read on JAT is independant of the RB.
I wish he was more forthcoming with his reads at this stage in the game; but he hasn't done anything to make me doubt my read.

So, still scummy then...

What the hell are you talking about?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 02 2013 00:44 GMT
#5760
On October 02 2013 09:42 Pandain wrote:
I just read decondou in personality two. He lived for two days.

In his time he posted way more then he has here, so I think, plainly put, you're wrong and/or exagerrating what he did.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=252145&user=deconduo&view=all

Note he also got killed night two.

So no, in regards to his meta not being lurker.
Show nested quote +

If I recall correctly, marv suggested he could be town basd on how he entered the game and didnt realise yamato was confirmed town.

How does this prove anything?


I shot him lol. Wait, personality 2 must be the wrong game as I was scum.

I shot him as town.. Boardwalk Empire (PICK Your Power) is the game I am talking about.
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